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Jeb Bush in 2016? Not Too Early for Chatter
New York Times ^ | Nov 25 2012 | JIM RUTENBERG and JEFF ZELENY

Posted on 11/23/2012 5:16:22 PM PST by WilliamIII

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To: GeronL
Anybody want the NY TIMES choosing your candidate??

Unless the Repubs change their nomination process, the liberal media will greatly influence their candidate selection.

141 posted on 11/23/2012 8:54:15 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: WilliamIII

No, no a thousand, million, BILLION times NO.


142 posted on 11/23/2012 9:07:04 PM PST by jocon307
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To: WilliamIII
Uh, no thanks. I'm already off the GOP reservation. Jeb Bush would make me a permanent lost soul in search of a party.


143 posted on 11/23/2012 9:14:33 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Ramonne

Do you realize that the last time the winning Republican ticket did not include Nixon or a Bush was when H.Hoover won in 1933?
I find that to be an astonishing fact and struggle to come up with an explanation for it. I would say it proves that only hard right wingers can win but the Bushes were really RINOS with that “kinder and gentler conservatism” that brought tax hikes and out of control spending, between the two of course.


144 posted on 11/23/2012 9:15:23 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: JerseyDvl

1928, not 1933.


145 posted on 11/23/2012 9:16:50 PM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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To: WilliamIII

Maybe he could takd his old lady and run for President of Mexico!!!

He should leave and quit poluting the US!


146 posted on 11/23/2012 9:19:09 PM PST by dalereed
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, I fell for some of the Romney as the candidate who can best win stuff because I figured that Romney would win over middle of the road voters in swing states.

But Romney got completely defined as an old rich and out of touch guy quickly. So the middle took the young, hip Obama. And I also think the middle has moved left on social issues.

Whoever we nominate in 2016, I want them to be under the age of 48. I think our only chance is to find a younger, articulate person that will appeal to a new generation. Certainly not Jeb.


147 posted on 11/23/2012 9:23:14 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: OneWingedShark

Frankly, I think Coolidge is grossly underrated.


148 posted on 11/23/2012 9:29:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: WilliamIII

Reading through the replies on this thread, I have only this observation:

Four years ago, we were saying the same things about Mitt Romney. And in the end, most of those who were doing the big talking surrendered.

Voting for the “R” was more important than conservatism. Will we learn, or will we never leave the Grand Old Plantation?


149 posted on 11/23/2012 9:34:03 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Publius

My apology for the error and thank you for the correction. Sure would be good to get that 88(will be) year old monkey off our backs in 2016.
But if we have to win with a Bush I will take it.The Repubs are sooooo lost right now.


150 posted on 11/23/2012 9:46:57 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
You know, it's about time somebody said screw the hispanic vote; I want the American vote regardless of color or ancestry.
151 posted on 11/23/2012 10:55:39 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: drypowder
if anyone seriously thinks that voting actually determines who becomes president of the US, well, there’s a fool born every minute.

Our numbers are growing, there may be a dozen or more of us here that feel that war.

Don't you know it is the angry SoCons that caused this. </sarcasm>

152 posted on 11/23/2012 11:24:49 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Hostage

Susana Martinez


153 posted on 11/23/2012 11:32:45 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

btt


154 posted on 11/23/2012 11:33:18 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 5th MEB

Then we won’t have a future in America. It’ll become Union of Socialist States of America.


155 posted on 11/24/2012 12:23:40 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SteveAustin

I don’t see age as an issue. After all Dave Mustaine, lead singer of Megadeth was backing Santorum. Kid Rock obviously backed Romney but he would have backed who ever got the nomination.


156 posted on 11/24/2012 4:18:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I didn’t say that they wrote the software, just that H.W. Bush likely spoke about it in his “linkages” speech. In turn, he probably got hold of it when he was the head of the CIA.

Such software is already several generations advanced. It is now used by police agencies to determine criminal associations, and was even brought to Iraq for GWII by reservists, to discover enemy associations, for which it was highly valued.

But this is at the ground level. What the Bush family likely owns is at the national and international level.

And, ironically enough, it is not in conflict with, but is complementary to, the internationalist organizations and think tanks.

Greatly understated, imagine documenting the thousands of known links that exist between just two countries. If you change one of those links in a significant way, it will likely impact the other links, but may also resonate to the links with other countries.

While a think tank may imagine that changing a link will result in some advantage, even their “brains” cannot envision the vast number of side effects. And this is where such data mining software is invaluable.

It helps to answer that most damning of questions: “And then what happens?”

Ironically as all get out, Christopher Hitchens, writing in The Nation, severely criticized H.W. Bush for despising linkages that at the time were common assumptions, even going so far as to call him monomaniacal. But in retrospect, what Bush did was right, and it worked surprisingly well.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/thenation/pdf/9102181601.pdf

Which goes to the software. Ordinary geniuses might be able to play a two dimensional game of chess in their heads, but if you can add a third dimension to your game that they cannot see, you can perform seemingly impossible maneuvers that to them seem irrational, but produce for you decisive results.


157 posted on 11/24/2012 5:26:31 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: WilliamIII
Another Rino....yeah, that should work like the rest of them.

How stupid do you have to be to keep doing the same thing over and over that has you losing.

Somebody please give the GOP elite a brain to share between them the next election....better yet pull a Reagan and Tea Party openly run you own candidate in the mix of the elite picks.

158 posted on 11/24/2012 6:47:59 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: JRandomFreeper
You have a greatly inflated idea of what Freepers can do.

Maybe because, when Freepers are focused and not attacking each other, we can make a difference. Remember "Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard [post 47]"?

159 posted on 11/24/2012 10:00:13 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: ansel12
Bachmann gave us Akin

How so? Did she teach him in the art of wrecking your campaign with gaffes? If so, he must have been her top student.

and had to spend $20,000,000.00 to barely hold on to her seat

That money would only help her if she brought her tendency to gaffe under control. If not, then all it would have done is expose her gaffes to more people. That's why I give her credit for learning from her mistakes.

after serving as an Ed Rollins stalking horse for Mitt, to keep out Palin.

Oh c'mon! Palin made her choice early on, and when did Bachmann point a gun at the voters and force them to vote for Romney.

160 posted on 11/24/2012 10:08:27 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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