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Obama's Soviet Mistake (This from Pravda)
Pravda ^ | 11/19/2012 | Xavier Lerma

Posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux

After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.

Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: anticolonialist; illiteratesociety; obama; obamacommunist; obamamistake; putin; russia
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To: Westbrook

+Boshevik means “majority” in Russian.

Menshevik means “minority”.

Conservatives and Libertatians together are just mensheviks.

The rest of the country is bolshevik, not only in the literal sense, but in the ideological sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It worth mentioning that titles are misleading.
Bolshvic were tiny but very violent minority who has hijacked miserable masses with hope and change promises.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 8:50:31 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Celtic Conservative; RoosterRedux
For once there is truth in pravda.

What was that saw about blind hogs and stopped clocks?

They dished on Pooty's boy -- a couple of Pravda editors might have unfortunate crime encounters on their front porches, like that newsreaderette did a few years ago.

22 posted on 11/26/2012 3:35:15 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Da Coyote
At least the president in Idiocracy meant well...albeit with the IQ of the Obamadork.

I think you make a mistake running Obama down as a fool. He isn't a person, he's a committee, a project. He has his American closet politburo run by Valerie Jarrett and the Axelplouffe Greaseboys, and then he's got support from half of the Moslem Umma and the remains of the Soviet Empire, the CPUSA, and the Communist International.

Think of him rather as being seated, like the tarot card representing The Devil, on a half-cube ingot of wisdom, representing Lucifer's possession of half of all wisdom. Obama, or rather Obama's cell, has a lot of resources in terms of manipulative political smarts at its disposal -- by resources I mean "people" -- and the will to use them.

23 posted on 11/26/2012 3:41:54 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: GOPJ

That is the official line, but it refers to the state church, while churches full of real believers are persecuted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2960959/posts?page=14#14


24 posted on 11/26/2012 4:24:20 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: uncommonsense

Yet underneath most of his opposition to Obama is the military competition American provides, and thus he opposes Bush as well.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 4:29:49 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RoosterRedux
Let's give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity in electing a man who does not even know what to do and refuses help from Russia when there was an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Instead we'll say it's true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We'll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power. How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?

I think Xavier is a Freeper.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 4:42:05 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RoosterRedux

So the Soviets spend 50 years undermining our education, religion and immigration, and now the Russians are complaining about the results?

We should demand reparations from Russia.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 6:01:21 AM PST by JPJones (I wish the buck(s) WOULD stop with me.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them

burn.... well, burn on us...

28 posted on 11/26/2012 6:40:19 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman

Not completely. Communism doesn’t work full stop — you can’t have one person or group of persons controlling everything about an economy. the variables are too large and it is too complex.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 6:59:48 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

[...you can’t have one person or group of persons controlling everything about an economy...]

All due respect but hasn’t obama done exactly that in our country?


30 posted on 11/26/2012 7:34:48 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: RetSignman
No.

And he can't -- not because he wouldn't like to, but it is impossible

in the Soviet system, they tried to manage supply and demand for everything, with the result that, for instance, there was sudden surges in which the shops would have a lot of one type of product, say toilet paper, and then not have it for weeks.

This was because the government tried to manage supply and demand on both ends -- and that is impossible in a modern, complex economy

It can work in a small economy -- like a kibbutz or a monastery, but it is impossible to decide how many screws to make at any point in time and adjust it with the screws needed etc -- and multiple that by the billions of different products, including products that go into making other products and you'll realise why the Soviet economy basically shut down by the 80s -- the complexity was too much. Perestroika was a way to relieve some of that pressure

Take any command economy and it fails due to complexity -- the market works best.

31 posted on 11/26/2012 7:40:45 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
Let me also clarify that what I described above of a centralized, command economy is Bolshevism or Leninist communism

There are other, milder forms of communism like kibbutzes etc which work if they don't force others to join -- but note that even kibbutzes and monasteries interact with the market economy

The Soviet idea of representing the people and dictating what supply was needed failed and their economies of scale were shot - they took more time and resources to produce less

Also, the Soviet system of forcing people to do certain jobs is another failure -- say you and I are programmers, but you are much better than me, but at the same time you are exceptional at financial planning -- it makes more sense for you to go into financial planning (and you'd do that to make more money) instead of competing with me

That's the market economy. the command economy is that you'd be forced to be a programmer like me

32 posted on 11/26/2012 7:48:56 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
Obama's stupidity is the stupidity of leftist professors -- communism can work in a small, close-knit, equal community like a kibbutz or a monastery or a university, but it can't work in the wider economy

Obama is a lecturer who has never worked a day in his life, ergo, he thinks what works in a university can work outside -- and he's wroing

33 posted on 11/26/2012 7:50:42 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
And, more so, Obama is so stupid that he can't see how what's he's doing has failed in other countries

Countries like India, China are watching what failed in the west and changing their policies -- Obama is watching what failed in other countries and IMPLEMENTING THE SAME thing, only in a far more complex economy

he's doomed to fail, and fail hard, but, BUT, note that he will cause the US to fail HARD

2020 -- the USA a third world country. That's my prediction.

Let the 47% moan after that has happened -- democrat idiots.

34 posted on 11/26/2012 7:55:47 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

35 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:46 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

36 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:46 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Cronos

Our government can’t even stock enough of the flu shots or which strain to order. Patients in the UK will be making Skype visits with their doctors.

And the Marxist’s FEMA is hiring hundreds of part time workers to clear up Sandy.

Government can’t do anything but enslave.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 9:34:59 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

38 posted on 11/26/2012 10:15:52 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: RoosterRedux; newgeezer

Russians are such racists.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 10:25:19 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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To: Just mythoughts
My brother, a history major in college who's done a lot of reading on the era, tells me that intellectuals of Czarist Russia right before the Revolution celebrated killers found not guilty. They were part of the oppressed "proletariat," after all. Free Mumia, anyone?
40 posted on 11/26/2012 11:13:45 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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