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Iron Dome's Battlefield Successes Point to Greater American Involvement
Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs ^ | November 21, 2012 | Bill Smearcheck

Posted on 11/22/2012 12:37:54 AM PST by neverdem

The performance of the revolutionary Iron Dome system in the ongoing defense of Israel from Hamas rocket attacks, dubbed Operation Pillar of Defense, has been so extraordinary as to be considered by all but the most hardline critics to have proven the efficacy of missile defense. By November 20, six days since Hamas dramatically increased the volume of rocket fire against Israel, 340 intercepts had been made, with the Iron Dome system achieving a greater than 80 percent success rate. For Israel, this capability not only saves lives but also provides the government with precious time to contemplate a response to each attack.

Iron Dome's proven effectiveness has greatly increased expectations that it will be a popular product on the world market and has drawn considerable attention to possible co-production in the United States.

Developed by the Israeli firms Elta, mPrest Systems, and Rafael, the relatively low-cost Iron Dome system (estimated to be $85,000 per Tamir interceptor missile and $20 million per battery), enjoyed an unprecedentedly rapid development cycle going from drawing board to operational system in five years.

Created to intercept rockets with ranges from 2.5 to 44 miles, Iron Dome is able to selectively engage incoming rockets and mortar and artillery rounds determined by the system to be headed for civilian population centers or national assets.

"Since we are talking about hundreds and even thousands of rockets that we have to deal with, we cannot intercept each one, and actually we don't need to," Lt. Col. Meyrav Davidovitz, Israeli Missile Defense Organization Liaison Officer, told a Washington, DC audience gathered at the Heritage Foundation earlier this month to discuss policy implications and future prospects, including potential U.S. co-production of the Iron Dome system. Such selective engagement keeps operating costs down and preserves the maximum number of interceptor stock for emergency situations, she said.

Iron Dome's affordability and effectiveness has had an enormous impact on both the United States government and the American aerospace and defense community. Congress increased U.S. assistance to allow Israel to field additional Iron Dome batteries after the system proved itself highly successful at intercepting Hamas rockets from its first in April 2011 through mid-2012.

At the end of July 2012, a new tranche of $70 million in U.S. support funds was sent to Israel to speed up the fielding of additional batteries intended to cover the Lebanon border as well as Gaza and Sinai. $190 million in Israeli government funding was recently approved; the ongoing defense of Israel from Hamas rocket attacks serving as an impetus for the additional procurement.

Support within Congress was made palpable by the recent insertion of language into the not-yet-approved FY-2013 Defense Authorization Act endorsing potential coproduction with Israel. The House Committee on Armed Forces wrote into the National Defense Authorization Act For Fiscal Year 2013 that the Director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, "should explore any opportunity to enter into co-production of the Iron Dome system with Israel, in light of the significant U.S. investment in this system." This would likely entail joint research with American firms, facilitating improvements in the Iron Dome interceptors. The authorization bill would also allocate an additional $1 billion to support Iron Dome and David's Sling, a medium layer missile defense system. In the Israeli missile defense architecture, Iron Dome covers the low level, short-range threats, David's Sling handles the medium level threats, and the Arrow system covers the upper-tier threats.

Back in 2010, in recognition of the system's capability, the United States government agreed to fund Israel's acquisition of four additional Iron Dome batteries along with additional interceptors with an allocation of $205 million. This support expanded Israeli production capacity and expedited the deployment of the Iron Dome's components, improving the overall effectiveness of the system.

Davidovitz explained to the audience of policy professionals, Congressional staff and Pentagon analysts, that, "Terrorist organizations around the world have the same capabilities as Hamas and Hezbollah, making the Iron Dome useful to all nations."

American acquisition of Iron Dome technology is "inevitable," asserted Randy Jennings, a defense consultant and former congressional staffer. He told the audience that it would fulfill America's future and current military defense needs in theaters similar to Afghanistan, as well as provide a proven system during a time of strained defense budgets.

Davidovitz said that, "if the U.S. decides to produce the system for its own needs, a big part of the production would be in the U.S."

A domestic endeavor would likely include R&D on improvements to the system, as well as the production missile batteries that comprise of a rocket launcher, radar, and battle management and control modules, as well as interceptors, Jennings said. Iron Dome coproduction would benefit not only the U.S.-Israel bilateral relationship, by lowering the cost per unit for both countries and promoting closer integration within the alliance, but could be expected to provide a boost to the American economy.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; irondome

1 posted on 11/22/2012 12:38:07 AM PST by neverdem
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To: SJackson
BANG!
2 posted on 11/22/2012 12:40:59 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Iron Dome coproduction would benefit not only the U.S.-Israel bilateral relationship, by lowering the cost per unit for both countries and promoting closer integration within the alliance, but could be expected to provide a boost to the American economy.

A boost to the American economy?
Obama will kill it.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 12:45:03 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

I thought it was an off chute of the U.S. Patriot Missile System.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 12:46:29 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: neverdem

A missile defense system that works? How did demRATS allow that one to slip by.


5 posted on 11/22/2012 12:58:48 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

There’s this psychotic tendency to claim Israeli inventions and products as really American.

Very weird, delusional and arrogant.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 1:36:30 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: neverdem
"Terrorist organizations around the world have the same capabilities as Hamas and Hezbollah, making the Iron Dome useful to all nations."

No! No other nations except Israel is expected to endure constant bombardment of their cities by terrorists. Other nations will do a "Dresden", "Hamburg" or "Tokoy". Problem solved!

PS. Yesterday Syria/Assad bombed a hospital in Aleppo - 40 killed. Have we seen the long-haired, shawl covered demonstrators out in force on our streets?

7 posted on 11/22/2012 1:58:12 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

“Have we seen the long-haired, shawl covered demonstrators out in force on our streets?”

Well, of course we haven’t. They are all inside smoking their medical marijuana and buying beer and cigarettes with their SNAP cards.

Pathetic that America no longer represents Life, Liberty and Property around the world, but instead represents Death, Oppression and Fascism. Our president no longer mourns the deaths of innocents.


8 posted on 11/22/2012 2:45:48 AM PST by gotribe
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To: tet68

Obama to the Israelis:

You didn’t make that.
You didn’t fire that.
You didn’t score a success rate with that.
You mothball it, then I can really screw you over...


9 posted on 11/22/2012 4:14:40 AM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: neverdem
, 340 intercepts had been made,

At $60K a pop.

10 posted on 11/22/2012 4:20:11 AM PST by glorgau
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To: glorgau

And rockets cost around $1000.


11 posted on 11/22/2012 4:46:24 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: neverdem

Iran and Russia have been going to school for the past few weeks and are preparing ways to thwart Iron Dome.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 5:07:18 AM PST by HChampagne
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To: DugwayDuke

“And rockets cost around $1000.”

Plus shipping. Ever try to smuggle a rocket into a territory that is constantly being watched by drones. Certainly doable, if you break them into parts, and do a little at a time, and then you have to assemble them.

Hamas will run out of rockets well before Israel runs out of resources to shoot them down - you can bank on that.


13 posted on 11/22/2012 5:39:49 AM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: neverdem

Israel needs to enable the auto-counter battery fire feature, and leave it turned on.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 7:17:21 AM PST by wrench
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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American acquisition of Iron Dome technology is "inevitable,"

As inevitable as a missle defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic

15 posted on 11/22/2012 7:25:01 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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American acquisition of Iron Dome technology is "inevitable,"

As inevitable as a missle defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic

16 posted on 11/22/2012 7:25:18 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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American acquisition of Iron Dome technology is "inevitable,"

As inevitable as a missle defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic

17 posted on 11/22/2012 7:26:21 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: SJackson
THANKS, for the report! :)

18 posted on 11/22/2012 7:27:26 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: neverdem; TigerLikesRooster

Taiwan and South Korea could use something like that too.

Seoul being within range of a lot of North Korean crap would seem like an obvious place to deploy


19 posted on 11/22/2012 8:15:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hardraade

There’s this psychotic tendency to claim Israeli inventions and products as really American.

Very weird, delusional and arrogant.
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A lot of US technology has gone into Israeli planes. That’s just a start.

However, the writer of the article is not anti Israeli or even a jingoistic American; he’s a salesman for the technology. He thinks the best market for it is in the USA. Notice his remarks about Afghanistan? The Taliban have not fired one rocket anywhere in that theater. there is likely a bait and switch going on. the israelis are world class businessmen. no need to worry about them losing on any deal.


20 posted on 11/22/2012 9:25:42 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Hardraade

Hey, you’re right. It was produced by Rafael.. Perhaps you’re too young to remember U.S. Patriot systems loaned to Israel against scud missiles; I DO!!! I assumed Iron Dome was an off chute of that, WHICH IT WAS. The U.S. poured $250 million to spur development and production of Iron Dome. I’m sure 0bama wouldn’t want US to have it though. STOP PUNCHING YOUR FREEPER FRIENDS.


21 posted on 11/22/2012 11:22:41 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Lol. No.

Iron Doma was designed by Rafael, from scratch. With development financing by Israel.

No “off-chute” from Patriot. Wherever did you get that idea?

Anyway. The important thing is that Israel doesn’t let the US have any influence on the program or who ends up with the product, because the US interest is anti-Israel and pro-islamist.

There’s been enough technology developed by Israel and channeled by the US to the jihadis.


22 posted on 11/22/2012 4:56:31 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade

According to this Wiki on the Iron Dome it was developed by Rafael.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome


23 posted on 11/22/2012 7:41:54 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yes, In these threads, there’s always a few people who sound like the old USS Liberty gang. With fresh join dates ;).


24 posted on 11/22/2012 8:03:59 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade
S. 3254: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013
112th Congress, 2011–2012. Text as of Jun 04, 2012 (Placed on Calendar in the Senate).

Sec. 237. Availability of funds for Iron Dome short-range rocket defense program.

Of the amounts authorized to be appropriated for fiscal year 2013 by section 201 for research, development, test, and evaluation, Defense-wide, and available for the Missile Defense Agency, $210,000,000 may be provided to the Government of Israel for the Iron Dome short-range rocket defense program as specified in the funding table in section 4201.

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011

Section 1507—Iron Dome Short-Range Rocket Defense Program

This section would allow the Secretary of Defense to provide up to $205.0 million from the funds authorized in section 1506 of this title for Defense-Wide Activities Procurement to the Government of the State of Israel for procurement of the Iron Dome defense system to counter short-range rocket threats.

25 posted on 11/23/2012 5:43:48 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

It basically provides for building a number of extra batteries, which the US is interested in having access to. No relevance as to development. Just a US toe in the shop door.


26 posted on 11/23/2012 6:45:05 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: neverdem

Once Raytheon or Lockheed get involved, the price will go from $20 million to $ 1 billion.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 9:20:54 AM PST by PGR88
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To: GeronL; neverdem; TigerLikesRooster
19 posted on Thu Nov 22 2012 10:15:08 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by GeronL: “Taiwan and South Korea could use something like that too. Seoul being within range of a lot of North Korean crap would seem like an obvious place to deploy.”

Absolutely right. Something like this needs to be installed along the DMZ, or at least near Seoul and Inchon for their defense.

Right now, the Kim dynasty has the ability to make good on their threats to light Seoul up in flames at the click of a button. Only political will, not military capability, prevents that from happening — and with dictatorial leaders in Pyongyang of questionable sanity, the South Koreans would be crazy not to try to build an anti-missile defense system.

North Korea is a state actor, not a non-state terrorist group, but what is happening now in Israel with Iron Dome may be a perfect example of how high-tech countries can counter the inherent advantages of asymmetrical warfare. While a Hamas rocket may cost $1,000 compared to $60,000 for the anti-rocket missile, I think it's patently obvious who has more money available and more ability to install defense systems without being tracked by drones and having their operations blown up. A 60-to-1 cost ratio is not a problem for Israel versus Hamas.

28 posted on 11/24/2012 9:04:27 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

In the Summer of 2011, according to Wiki, South Korea did express an interest.

“During a visit to Israel in the summer of 2011, Kwon Oh-bong, vice commissioner of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration in Seoul, expressed interest in purchasing the system in order to counter the threat posed by North Korean artillery, rockets, and missiles”


29 posted on 11/24/2012 12:58:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Forget the R&D improvements, at least until after we make a bunch for ourselves. Buy the rights to manufacure, assuing we don’t already have an agreement to that effect, since we helped pay for the R&D as well as the Israeli procurement. IIRC.


30 posted on 11/24/2012 8:27:07 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: neverdem
US Wants a Stake in Israel’s Iron Dome Technology

Rafael Team with Raytheon to Offer Iron Dome in the U.S.

31 posted on 11/24/2012 8:34:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: DugwayDuke
To determine cost effectiveness, you don't look at the cost of the system thwarted, you look at the value of the asset protected.

A Patriot costs a lot more. Only thing that might be cheaper, and could work, is a ground based high energy laser. Incremental cost per shot would likely be fairly low, but overall system cost might be higher than Iron Dome

32 posted on 11/24/2012 8:39:06 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: PGR88
Once Raytheon or Lockheed get involved, the price will go from $20 million to $ 1 billion.

Only if you let them do R&D for "improvements", before buying a bunch of systems for the US.

Raytheon already teamed with Rafael over a year ago to market the system to the US.

33 posted on 11/24/2012 8:56:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

No, it’s domestic.

(I work for Raf.)


34 posted on 11/26/2012 8:30:17 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: GeronL

Thank you... interesting!


35 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:40 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Nice website, if I were local I’d probably be there every day


36 posted on 11/26/2012 3:41:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: El Gato

“To determine cost effectiveness, you don’t look at the cost of the system thwarted, you look at the value of the asset protected.”

True, from a defensive perspective. From the perspective of the offense, things look different. The offense can view the ‘target’ as the defensive missile. Since rockets are cheap and missiles are not, then the offense can consider the exchange as profitable even if it never hits Tel Aviv.

“A Patriot costs a lot more. Only thing that might be cheaper, and could work, is a ground based high energy laser. Incremental cost per shot would likely be fairly low, but overall system cost might be higher than Iron Dome”

Rockets are small, can be hard to hit, and hardened. Some can be made as decoys, nothing but a ‘rock’ with no explosive but very hard to kill.

Another problem with lasers. They’re not eye-safe. You have to be sure you’re not accidently burning the eye balls of a El Al pilot on final with 350 passengers on board.

Problem with all these ideas is simply this. Sooner or later the defense has to take out the launch sites. You can stand back and play defense forever. Sooner or later, one will get through.


37 posted on 11/27/2012 5:21:11 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
They’re not eye-safe. You have to be sure you’re not accidently burning the eye balls of a El Al pilot on final with 350 passengers on board.

No worse that smacking it with a Patriot, or a Standard missile. Problem with all these ideas is simply this. Sooner or later the defense has to take out the launch sites. You can stand back and play defense forever. Sooner or later, one will get through.

That the Israelis did. But some still got through. But even that isn't good enough with these small relatively cheap rockets. You have to take out the factory and/or the transports. The Israelis did that too. Plus you have to kill as many of the guys would make or launch them as you can, and every leader you can locate.

38 posted on 11/28/2012 7:52:38 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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