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Hurricane Sandy: Staten Island Survivors
The Atlantic ^ | 11/21/12

Posted on 11/21/2012 7:15:33 PM PST by Kartographer

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To: jazusamo

The comment was a picture that was copyrighted and removed because of that. My comment on that thread which refers to the subject and the behavior that we are talking about is farther down the thread,. which I have repeatedly directed you to and to which you failed repeatedly to go to and read, which is why I then posted it to show that I did repeatedly speak up against the behavior that we are talking about multiple times on multiple threads. You asked me why I didn’t speak up about it at the time and I am showing you that I did.


51 posted on 11/21/2012 9:52:04 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: FreeReign; Kartographer

Yup. Me too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2952996/posts

Started with post # 30.


52 posted on 11/21/2012 9:52:11 PM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin, Molon Labe.)
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To: onona; FreeReign; Betis70

LOL! I remember that comment!!! Guess I wasn’t hallucinating after all.


53 posted on 11/21/2012 9:57:39 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

You have my Thanks today Karty on this special day.

You have been a source of great information, which I can honestly attribute to helping me get through this recent storm with much more ease than before I started prepping up.

Stay the course brother man.


54 posted on 11/21/2012 10:04:16 PM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin, Molon Labe.)
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To: Kartographer; dirtboy

Dirtboy was on those threads and saw some of the nasty comments. Par for the course for FReepers outside of red states.


55 posted on 11/21/2012 10:04:35 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: John Galt's cousin

“We will recover, but we don’t appreciate bravo-sierra.”

LIPA said Tuesday that more than 12,000 workers, including 7,300 linemen from as far away as California, Washington state and Arizona, were working to restore power.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/06/us-storm-sandy-lipa-idUSBRE8A51CS20121106

Maybe next time around.........you can recover all on your own.


56 posted on 11/21/2012 10:09:35 PM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: onona
After being called a liar and a 'blog pimp' I really need to hear that. I have always said that if my work helped one family, heck one person it was well worth all.

Thank you so much for letting me know I reached my goal.

"It is one of the beautiful compensations in this life that no one can sincerely try to help another without helping himself."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
57 posted on 11/21/2012 10:17:42 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: onona; jazusamo; Kartographer

No response jazusamo? You weren’t on those threads. You weren’t in your home worrying if your house was gonna get flooded while FReepers laughed and hoped you had your entire property turned into swamp land.

Anyone, liberal or conservative, who does that, is worthy of scorn and ridicule. I despise liberal’s politics, but I would NEVER applaud their suffering. Ever.

If you do, you have no heart and are certainly not someone who follows Judeo-Christian principles.

And Kartographer, Sandy actually opened my eyes to how unprepared I really was. I’m more prepared than most of my neighbors (skills-wise), but I need to do more. Thanks for the prepper list. I’ve learned a ton already in the month or so I’ve been following it.


58 posted on 11/21/2012 10:22:20 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Kartographer

You are more than welcome, and, my humble request is that you never stop, regardless.

P.S. I am spreading the word.


59 posted on 11/21/2012 10:35:14 PM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin, Molon Labe.)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you. I know people who have family on Long Island and they tell me that it’s worse there than the media is saying.


60 posted on 11/21/2012 11:39:29 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: jazusamo; Kartographer
Then why didn’t you speak for the truth when it supposedly happened nearly a month ago?

Where have you been, for crying out loud?

Kart DID speak out! Where were you?

61 posted on 11/21/2012 11:42:20 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer
I've been helping in Far Rockaway, a neighborhood in NYC as badly hit as Staten Island. Shoveling sand. Moving childhood treasures out of basements. Moving furniture passed down from grandparents, now trash, into garbage trucks. Comforting the afflicted, and doing my part to be a blessing. These are our friends, our families, our neighbors.

Sure, they bitch and complain like New Yorkers do, but the people here are resilient and are taking this devastation in stride, not waiting to be rescued but rolling up sleeves and getting to work to rebuild.

62 posted on 11/21/2012 11:43:59 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: ffusco; Kartographer
Your empathy for people facing a tragedy is determined by their politics? I have seem many charitable and heroic acts by people of all stripes in time of need. Shame on you.

You're preaching at the WRONG person.

Kart and others have been fighting an undending battle against those FRINOS who have been doing that very thing against the victims of Hurricane Sandy due to the simple fact that they live in NY, a *GASP* ***BLUE*** state.

They got what they deserved, dontcha know?

63 posted on 11/21/2012 11:47:55 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: jazusamo; Kartographer
Take a hike.

You come here on HIS thread and tell him to take a hike?!?!?!

Really????

If you don't like it, don't click on the link to his thread and read it.

64 posted on 11/21/2012 11:52:35 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: jazusamo; Kartographer; Betis70
Then why didn’t you speak for the truth when it supposedly happened nearly a month ago?

Kartographer did. Between the naysayers before the storm, trying to say it wasn't goint to be bad up to and even during the worst of the storm, and the "Let 'em suffer, they're from blue states" folks afterwards, Kartographer was the one pushing back against them the hardest.

Pretty sad state of affairs that folks's hearts can be so hardened, but unfortunately that happens a lot with internet discourse, and it just keeps getting worse with each passing year.

My client is based in Northern New Jersey and some of their employees I work with didn't have power for nearly three weeks - at a time of year where that can be more than just uncomfortable. And they got off easy compared to what a lot of folks along the coast are going through.

65 posted on 11/22/2012 2:11:36 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: jazusamo

What Kartographer said was true - I’ve seen may posts about how the Sandy victims can suck eggs and there have been stated hopes they really suffer. After going through Katrina, I wouldn’t wish even the worst Democrat ill above and beyond what Mother Nature has already provided. It demeans us all on FR when folks make bile-laden posts because they can’t ever get politics out of it and put humanity into it - it makes us sound as rabid as the Dims on DU.


66 posted on 11/22/2012 4:01:47 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: metmom

perhaps you’re right


67 posted on 11/22/2012 5:55:14 AM PST by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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To: jazusamo

I agree with others here. You’re FOS.


68 posted on 11/22/2012 7:18:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kartographer; Betis70; metmom; dirtboy; trebb
My apologies to you Kartographer and to you all.

I didn't think it appropriate to liken posters at FR to those at DU, that was my concern and I would never make inappropriate posts about anyone being devastated due to any disaster.

As our posts continued I lost my temper and I'm sorry it happened.

If you'll accept A Happy Thanksgiving wish from me it's offered.

69 posted on 11/22/2012 8:35:20 AM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Betis70; metmom; dirtboy; trebb

Consider the matter forgotten.

I myself got more than a little heated, but I hate a cover up and I felt that something that was truly ugly needed to be brought to FReepers attention in hope that it would not happen again.

As I posted more than once:

“I thought we are better than that. I know we should be better than that. But after hearing so many defend this behavior I am no longer sure that we can be better than that.”

Now let me thank you! You help bring my pastors weekly message to life as he taught this week on:

Ephesians 4:32 ‘Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.”

So you test me and what can I do but forgive and forget. As I said consider the matter forgotten.


70 posted on 11/22/2012 9:13:30 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
You're most gracious, FRiend and thank you.

I fully understand your meaning now which I should have picked up on last night.

71 posted on 11/22/2012 9:31:57 AM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: stanne

The volunteers got overwhelmed by the volume of clothing that was first donated, but have now become more organized. I am told one VFW post has department store racks set up so people don’t have to rummage through black plastic bags.

There was a call for baby supplies and for clean up supplies. I am not sure of who needs what now.

Your idea of contacting the Parishes most heavily afffected is brilliant. On Staten Island, they are the Parishes closest to the beaches on the south shore, from South Beach to Great Kills. I am FreepMailing you the contact info of the Churches. They can advise what is most needed, and where to send it.

Thank you and peace be with you.


72 posted on 11/22/2012 9:56:25 AM PST by John Galt's cousin (Constitutional Conservatism NOW! * * * * * * * * * * Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: stanne

I do not know the contact info for the Churches or other institutions in the Rockaways, Breezy Point, Nassau County or the Jersey Shore, but perhaps Freepers familiar with those neighborhods might have some contact info.


73 posted on 11/22/2012 10:05:30 AM PST by John Galt's cousin (Constitutional Conservatism NOW! * * * * * * * * * * Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: jazusamo

No worries, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, jazusamo. I am used to seeing lots of blanket political statements about people living in ‘blue’ states, but some of those posts were shockingly callous and nasty.


74 posted on 11/22/2012 10:43:56 AM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: metmom; Kartographer
I know people who have family on Long Island and they tell me that it’s worse there than the media is saying.

I agree. I also agree with the original thoughts behind Kart's comments - I too was on a number of those threads (until my power went out) and was repeatedly called a liar, which was bad enough but I was a liar FOR Obama - and I reported any number of those type comments, as did many others.

I couldn't go back to those threads as they had disturbed me so much, I couldn't believe some of what I was reading, plus there was a lot of work to do here in VA and I didn't have the time or interest in getting into cat fights with people who weren't facing what those in my community, or elsewhere, were facing.

Daily, friends in NYC are still posting on FB updates about various communities including Staten Island, Breezy, Rockaway, parts of Brooklyn, etc.

75 posted on 11/22/2012 11:39:01 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: jazusamo

No offense taken. It never happened.

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well and God’s gracious blessing on you and your family.


76 posted on 11/22/2012 11:46:30 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Gabz
I agree. I also agree with the original thoughts behind Kart's comments - I too was on a number of those threads (until my power went out) and was repeatedly called a liar, which was bad enough but I was a liar FOR Obama - and I reported any number of those type comments, as did many others.

People are angry and looking for someone to blame. I was treated pretty rudely because I cast my NYS throwaway vote for president for a third party candidate as a protest vote.

No way obama was not taking NY. It's to heavily blue and I'm used to my vote for president never counting so I had that luxury. And I still got shredded for it.

People who weren't prepared and were whining because Uncle Handout didn't come through as they expected or demanded have no one to blame but themselves, but only in regard to not preparing, not simply because they live in a blue state which somehow means to some that they *deserved* it.

What many people either forget or don't know is that God has established all authority on the earth. If obama got re-elected, there IS a purpose for it, it was no surprise to God and He can use even that for our ultimate good, if we let Him.

77 posted on 11/22/2012 11:55:10 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

I understand about your vote, not you being attacked though.. Romney had a chance here in VA - so while he wasn’t my first choice, he did get my vote.

What I didn’t understand was the attacks on folks like me who were just reporting conditions in our neck of the woods. Being told I was shilling for an Obama government agency as I was watching the water creep closer to the house than it ever has before was not exactly something I took kindly to and that was before the worst of the storm had yet to hit us and was just starting to pound the Jersey Shore. It was ugly and hurtful and so totally uncalled for.

I hope you are having a blessed Thanksgiving.


78 posted on 11/22/2012 12:29:44 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gene Eric
You might wan to look at how this thread end.

It's funny so many FReepers like to quote Edmund Bruke:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

And yet when evil was being spewed right here among them they stood by and did nothing. And when I did stand up against it I was chastized by many of those 'good men'.
79 posted on 11/23/2012 7:51:49 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Gabz
Being told I was shilling for an Obama government agency as I was watching the water creep closer to the house than it ever has before was not exactly something I took kindly to and that was before the worst of the storm had yet to hit us and was just starting to pound the Jersey Shore. It was ugly and hurtful and so totally uncalled for.

We had one poster (probably the one berating you) going from thread to thread saying everyone on FR was falling for the MSM gambit to overplay the storm.

The problem was, the storm was not being overplayed. And the public needed to be aware that something serious was coming. Too many were of the mindset of some posters here, that Sandy was just a mere Cat 1 and therefore not going to live up to the hype.

80 posted on 11/23/2012 2:52:52 PM PST by dirtboy
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