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Hamas Declares Victory, Gaza Celebrates
Arutz Sheva ^ | 21/11/12 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 11/21/2012 1:02:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: HiTech RedNeck
All those Gazans sent to a virginful paradise. Aren’t ya ENVIOUS???

I'm envious of the IDF forces who sent them there.

I'm not sure what the Hildebeast said to Israel that coerced them into a cease fire but it was probably something to the affect of "I'll be president in January 2017, and if you think Obama has abandoned you wait until you see what I do."

The left is not above threats. We see it every day.

51 posted on 11/21/2012 2:25:52 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Karliner

“All Palestinian factions shall stop all hostilities from the Gaza Strip against Israel, including rocket attacks and all attacks along the border.

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“Each party shall commit itself not to perform any acts that would breach this understanding. In case of any observations, Egypt as a sponsor of this understanding, shall be informed to follow up.”

All Palestinian factions were not party to the agreement, and thus can’t be bound by it, only Hamas, which will simply have PFLP do its missile launching for it for a time. What will Egypt do to “follow up”? Is Israel’s hands tied until Egypt finishes “follow[ing] up”? What a bunch of doubletalk. How did Bibi sign off on this worthless paper dove?

I have a nephew on active duty now, and it infuriates me that Bibi and Ehud take such a cavalier attitude towards their soldiers’ lives, among them my nephew’s, that remain on the line despite this worthless piece of blather they call an agreement. Stop having your idiot pollsters call me. I will never vote Likud.


52 posted on 11/21/2012 2:31:38 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Former Fetus

It should be at the bottom of the Red Sea.


53 posted on 11/21/2012 2:32:33 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“...it will never end til every single one of those cockroaches are destroyed.”

Yup.


54 posted on 11/21/2012 2:44:42 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I know it is a holiday weekend, but everyone please take some time to write your congressman. I have a new congressman and I have to send a message. Yes, he’s a Republican, but I don’t know if he has any principles. We will see. If he does have principles then he will very vocally announce the following: (which is my request in my letter to him.)

1.) Egypt is a terrorist state.
2.) Turkey is a terrorist state.
3.) All funding to Egypt and Turkey will cease.
4.) Hamas is a terrorist organization.
5.) The Palestinian Authority is a terrorist organization.
6.) All funding going to Hamas and the PA will cease.
7.) The United States will unconditionally guarantee military supply chains to Israel and will ship in advance stockpiles of munitions, aircraft parts, tanks parts, and other military essentials needed for a protracted conflict.
8.) All those siding with Egypt, Hamas, Hezbollah, Turkey, Iran and any nation hostile to Israel will immediately lose all funding.
9.) Iran has 48 hours to begin the destruction of all nuclear,, chemical and biological weapons after the next session of congress is seated. Failure to do so will result in an act of congress to declare war in Iran. (Yes, that is a congressional power, sarcasm for FReepres).
10.) In 30 seconds the M1A1 Abrams tank factory in Egypt will be destroyed. We are not concerned with collateral damage within 1,000 miles of the factory. We are, after all a nation that is over $16 billion in debt. We can’t afford smart weapons to be used on Muslim vermin. (Yes, we are so f’n stupid to allow Muslims (Egyptians) to build our tanks.)


55 posted on 11/21/2012 2:59:53 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (It is impossible to have a good faith negotiations with terrorists or any Muslim.)
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To: TomasUSMC
The population of Palestinian people is said to be about 2.5 million.

The population of Israel is said to be about 8 million.

It's hardly fair or accurate to factor in every muslim regardless where they may live. Why not factor in every Jew?

56 posted on 11/21/2012 3:12:44 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Eleutheria5
the next time the goathumpers throw so much as a stone, the Jews shouldn't leave even two stones on top of each other in Gaza
57 posted on 11/21/2012 3:20:30 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Warmonger./s?


58 posted on 11/21/2012 3:24:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I wonder how much of our money cankles gave the paliscum to lay off the rocket fire into Israel?

I do hope Israel is regrouping for the next wave of bombing and has a plan to hit deeper into the hamagoons and moslem filth.


59 posted on 11/21/2012 3:26:25 PM PST by soycd
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To: Daveinyork

Temporary lull...the enemies of Israel will make a big move eventually.


60 posted on 11/21/2012 3:28:32 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Eleutheria5
Arabs in Gaza took to the streets to celebrate the start of the truce deal, firing into the air and chanting victory slogans, AFP reported.

Target rich environment going to waste.

61 posted on 11/21/2012 3:30:37 PM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: Chode

No. We must inform Egypt and wait for them to follow up. Otherwise, we are in breach of the cease fire agreement.


62 posted on 11/21/2012 3:34:29 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: plain talk

Yep, and the ones who said die! Ended up dead!


63 posted on 11/21/2012 3:42:01 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Mashaal said. "Israel has failed in all its goals," he told reporters in a Cairo hotel.

Hmmm, seeing as how the violence was started by Hamas firing rockets and missiles into Israel, and Israel's one and only objective has been to stop the violence and protect it's citizens... I'd say a cease fire (if it holds, if it is respected by Hamas {snort}) represents 100% achievement of objectives by the IDF.

Now, would it be better to continue the operation, and stomp even more of the sub-human terrorists known as Hamas out of existence? Sure.

64 posted on 11/21/2012 3:45:42 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: South40

I’m being facetious, boy, facetious.


65 posted on 11/21/2012 4:04:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: wolfman

I did notice the green. But she’s so pretty, so clean and neat - so beautifully groomed - I overlooked the significance.


66 posted on 11/21/2012 4:24:38 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Eleutheria5
you're screwed either way... my God have mercy you
67 posted on 11/21/2012 5:04:07 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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68 posted on 11/21/2012 5:08:16 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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69 posted on 11/21/2012 5:08:31 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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70 posted on 11/21/2012 5:09:26 PM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
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71 posted on 11/21/2012 5:26:54 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: miss marmelstein; wolfman

Need a photo. Is the green a light sickly green? I believe that the Greek word in the Bible, describing the Pale Horse, is Light Sickly Green, but the english translation is Pale.


72 posted on 11/21/2012 6:10:49 PM PST by SisterK (no compromises)
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To: Eleutheria5

O-bomb-a is now running the muslim brotherhood and directed his terrorist wing of murderous thugs, hamas, to attack Israel out of revenge for Bibi supporting Romney. Would it surprise you? How convenient, he now gets to play peacemaker too. Probably spiking the football as we speak.


73 posted on 11/21/2012 6:12:22 PM PST by major1971 (Lies and sorrow may float through the air, but truth and happiness live inside yourself.)
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To: miss marmelstein

She looked like she was pulled out of a cold shower at 3AM.


74 posted on 11/21/2012 6:43:34 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

She looks like she was pulled out of a cold camel at 3 a.m.


75 posted on 11/21/2012 6:52:30 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Eleutheria5
There is no ‘negotiating’ with terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist organization as are the MuzBros. The can just got kicked down the road for a day or two by Obozo and LadyBenghazi.
76 posted on 11/21/2012 7:29:32 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Eleutheria5; F15Eagle; Saoirise
Obama will use this to his own advantage. I pray Israel doesn't give up one iota of their land to appease the terrorists. Not one iota! Stay strong Israel and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

This is where everything may be headed under Obama:

“Obama’s Chance to Push Two-State Solution:

http://www.realclearworld.com/2012/11/20/obamas_chance_to_push_two-state_solution_142428.html

77 posted on 11/21/2012 7:48:03 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Eleutheria5

“pride goes before the fall” and “like thornbushes crackling in the fire, so are the words of a fool”~ Proverbs


78 posted on 11/21/2012 7:53:07 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Eleutheria5
Democrats support Hamas and the Palestinians. By keeping the greivance stocked, they can keep the gas prices high. This fits into their demonization of the oil companies. Create a big problem, blame someone else, reap the reward.

Further, since the Palestinians are a non-white minority, they cannot be allowed to look like they have no support or moral authority. Allowing that kind of failure could undermine the use of guilt and shame used against whites for extortion through taxes and the establishment of special rights and thus further electoral success.

79 posted on 11/21/2012 8:07:30 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: South40

Most Moslums hate Israel.

Go ahead and factor in all the Jews in the World.

They are still outnumbered hundreds to 1.

Israel has the advantage in nuclear weapons....TODAY. They need to use this advantage before the moslums nuke them. Its just a matter of time before a little Davy Crockett type gets into the hands of the Moslumbrohood.


80 posted on 11/21/2012 8:10:32 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Eleutheria5

81 posted on 11/21/2012 8:18:53 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Eleutheria5

All they’ve done is allowed the Muzzies time to rearm and redirect their murderous hordes. Wipe them out!


82 posted on 11/21/2012 8:21:15 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 444Flyer

We all know the Antichrist will divide Israel for a “peace” lie according to Daniel 11 so it must be coming one of these days.


83 posted on 11/21/2012 8:43:41 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: TomasUSMC
Go ahead and factor in all the Jews in the World.
They are still outnumbered hundreds to 1.

Again, factoring in those who do not live in Palestine or Israel is foolish. But even if you did, your numbers aren't even close.

There are approximately 2.2 Billion muslims in the world.

According to 2010 estimates, there are approximately 810 million Jews.

That comes out to about 2.7 muslims to every Jew, which hardly gets even close to your overstated "hundreds to 1" comparison.

Again, that is all meaningless because the Israelis outnumber Palestinians 40-1, which means the loss to the Palestinians is far greater than the scant few suffered by the Israelis. That number is, in fact, for every 15 Palestinian terrorists dead there is only 1 Israeli.

84 posted on 11/21/2012 8:56:18 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Eleutheria5

We didn’t just lose America this year, we lost the world.


85 posted on 11/21/2012 9:00:00 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: F15Eagle

Where is that ship from Iran with weapons aboard?
What does Gaza need these weapons for.
Will it dock and offload new weapons to the Gaza Strip?
New rockets will be launched this peace will not last.
These idiots declare victory, how many civilians lives were lost because radicals decided to start a conflict?
If it happens again the IDF needs to sweep GAZA!
We’ll see about this so called victory??????


86 posted on 11/21/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by Conserev1
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To: Conserev1

and there are still the potential Syria-Turkey-Israel NATO/Russia scenarios.


87 posted on 11/21/2012 9:21:26 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Muslims celebrated in this country too, but strangely, the media didn’t care to document it.


88 posted on 11/21/2012 9:24:52 PM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus scandal - "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: PghBaldy

Of course not, did not tie into their agenda showing the Muslims what they really are..the lib media loves the Muslims because they hate America just as much as they do


89 posted on 11/21/2012 9:34:56 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: South40
For a committed Muslim, being killed and becoming a “Shaheed” or Martyr is a very desirable state for these loonies. If 5,000 Gazans had been killed it wouldn't phase them in the least because it is part of their foul religion, it's ok to die and it's even better to kill a Jew or Christian. The only sensitive people observing this conflict and “feeling” for the poor little dead Arab diddums are the Europeans and Left wing, radicals and there DemocRAT friends. For HAMAS, 5 Israeli dead is a big victory and the destruction of their infrastructure is Gaza means nothing to them - the Iranians will rebuild and rearm them. Arabs and Muslims always convert loss to victory in their minds so as far as they are concerned, they won. The NEXT round may see Israeli actually create 5,000 Shaheeds...and they're gonna love it because their lives have no meaning. That's why they always trade 5,000 of their scumbags for one Israeli.
90 posted on 11/21/2012 10:33:44 PM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Daveinyork; All

Most sources that I have read/heard seem to think the Israel and Gaza each got a number of things they were after. The surprise is that Morsi did not take an extreme anti Israel position as many have feared given his Muslim Brotherhood connections. If Egypt applied any pressure/strong persuasion, Gaza had to listen as its friend Syria is rather distracted for the moment and likely to remain so.


91 posted on 11/21/2012 11:59:58 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Eleutheria5

Agit-Propaganda. Israel is showing so much restraint. The world would not allow it but they could drive all of Hamas into the Mediterranean Sea, the ones they did not outright kill, in a matter of a week or so if they chose.


92 posted on 11/22/2012 12:59:59 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (*Too many* damned conservatives in the GOP primaries split the vote for Romney. We are SO retarded!)
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To: South40

"Even I cannot believe this CRAP!!"

93 posted on 11/22/2012 3:08:59 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: South40
There are nowhere near 810 milliion Jews in the world. It is more like 12 million world-wide. Your linked table has a similar number.
94 posted on 11/22/2012 3:28:07 AM PST by Truth29
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Israel did well out of this.

The Iron Dome system got some extremely valuable calibration over the past days.

Plus all that free advertising to Nations that are looking for their own missile defense system and have deep checkbooks.


95 posted on 11/22/2012 3:52:23 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Eleutheria5

Palis always do this after they get their asses kicked. Survival is victory in their muddled thinking.

That said, I do wish Bibi had pressed into Gaza and taken out the weaponry. This is going to replay again soon.


96 posted on 11/22/2012 3:58:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Truth29; South40

The Dodd chair (Thomas, not Chris) at the U of Conn. keeps the stats on Jews. Go to the following link, then click on world population for the pdf:

http://www.jewishdatabank.org/

In 2010 the worldwide est. Jewish population was 13.5 million.

I don’t know where the claimed stat of 810 mil could possibly have come from.

?????????????????????????????


97 posted on 11/22/2012 5:30:12 AM PST by txrangerette ("hold to the truth...speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: agere_contra

I just finished listening to a lefty-slanted teevee news broadcast about this. I don’t normally listen to the teevee but this was in the lobby of a motel where I was having breakfast.

At least they let an Israeli guy tell his side, which of course was that the barrage of rockets was unprovoked. (I know of nothing specific that led to it, not even a Pallie demand. They just started shooting out of the blue. And shoot yeah, Israel has every right to answer that with hell fire.) Israel is insisting that the terrorism be dismantled before peace can be negotiated. The fools in Gaza are partying, but for the wrong reason. If they were sane they might be tickled that the idiot rocketeers were stomped and stopped. But unless they themselves are willing to put a lid on that sort of thing, there won’t be any peace.


98 posted on 11/22/2012 5:34:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: txrangerette

13.5 million sounds pretty little to me. Even the US alone boasts millions of Jews. Maybe that’s only the deeply religious ones.


99 posted on 11/22/2012 5:35:58 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Daveinyork

Blame America first?


100 posted on 11/22/2012 5:42:22 AM PST by Skylab
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