I bet you post more at the DUmp than you did here, so go there and tell your fellow DUmmies you got the ZOT on FR. HEE, HEE!!
Posted on 11/21/2012 11:54:53 AM PST by theruleshavechanged
I bet you post more at the DUmp than you did here, so go there and tell your fellow DUmmies you got the ZOT on FR. HEE, HEE!!
I'm not defending President Obama, but I do think it is too much to say “every Christian” knows this.
There are a lot of Christians outside Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Anglican circles who have never made the sign of the cross and probably don't know how to do it since they've rarely if ever seen other people do it.
I can guess why Christian tradition may have made the sign of the cross with the right rather than the left hand — there has been a lot of negative symbolism attached to doing things with the left rather than the right hand — but I wouldn't have known the correct choice of hands had any religious significance apart from this debate on Free Republic.
Maybe this was deliberate but I'd be more inclined to put it into the category of an ignorant gaffe than deliberately offensive or intentional blasphemy.
“He doesn’t know the proper way to do it because he’s not a Christian.... Every Christian knows you make the sign of the cross with your right hand....Have you ever heard of Protestants?”....
Pointless to go there......I’ve never given the cross sign in my entire Christian walk.....And yet, I know I am covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ.....”If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved”.......
Unlike some others, I'm not going to call you a troll or a closet liberal. I understand that there are conservative atheists, agnostics, and other non-believers.
We need your votes, too.
The Republican Party has been a loose coalition for a long time between the overlapping but separate interests of military conservatives, economic conservatives, and social conservatives. I do not have a problem with voting for an economic conservative or military conservative who doesn't agree with my Judeo-Christian beliefs, as long as he agrees not to fight against my beliefs.
Most Christian conservatives are perfectly willing to agree to demands not to gut defense (both because of Romans 13 and practical politics) and to emphasize a free market (again, both because of biblical principles against state-sponsored theft and because of practical politics). Why is it so hard for non-believers who are conservatives, and who need our votes, to at least pledge not to oppose the issues which motivate us to get out and aggressively campaign for a candidate?
Furthermore, is simply factually false to say social conservative issues lose elections.
Four years ago, Republicans ran a military conservative who had a history dating back to the 2000 election of trampling on Christians and he lost, big time.
This year, Republicans ran an economic conservative who had a pro-abortion history dating back to his own mother's campaign for governor of Michigan in the early 1970s and a recent history of support not only for abortion but also homosexual marriage, and he also lost, though by a smaller margin.
In 2000 and 2004, Republicans ran a candidate who, despite all his problems, at least **TALKED** the language of evangelicals and (more broadly) social conservatives. That candidate, George W. Bush, won.
Maybe that history should indicate that social conservative issues, far from losing elections, actually contribute to winning them?
Social conservative issues motivate people to vote contrary to their socioeconomic interests. They were key to Ronald Reagan winning over the so-called "Reagan Democrats" who were furious over the radicalism of the 1960s and abortion.
They can win again.
Obama is a very little man.
Did he do it twice?
There’s no such thing as a “backwards” sign. The Western church goes left to right, and the Eastern church the other way when making the gesture.
LOL!!!!! That is funny
That makes no logical sense unless you are under the delusion that Romney was some kind of right-wing Christian. This is not even close to being the case.
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I’m no fan of the man in any way, but if I’m really being honest, I cant throw stones on this one. I’ve done the “sign of the cross blessing” thing in jest to people / things many times. I know this is a bigger deal to our Catholic friends on here, but on my big board of reasons why I can’t stand this guy, absolution of the gobblers really isn’t up there.
He could be the anti Christ, but my Bible says that we will NOT know who the anti Christ is until he is released in full on the world
The Rapture will take place before he is revealed to the world.
But yes he could be alive and well and among us as we speak, but we do not know who he is yet
The AC will step up to take control of a worldwide gov’t, monetary system and religion.
The left/0bama is doing everything they can to set up this structure for him.
You are right, I was just saying we do NOT know who it is until he is revealed
However the left has no power as who the anti Christ will be, Only God knows who it will be
Last week it was posted on a thread on Free Republic... Obama had signed an act to remove Zionist’s from the White House, and government in Washington. Did you see the article?.
Little or no response by the medias.
Did he really do this? Maybe I dreamed it.
Where is the media outcry?
Obama is putrid; Liberals are pathetic.
Just one question for the African American masses who voted 95% for this dude: is this the representation you want to exemplify the best in African American maleness?
According to older ‘church teachings’, those that were born left handers were, from birth, trained to use their right hand, since the left hand was named ‘sinistre’. (Thanks mom!)
So, we have a mirror-opposite man, performing the motions in mirror-opposite direction.
One more reason this lovely example of non-Americana has bamboozled the country.
To me, this guy ain’t no kind of no god!
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