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ConsumerWatch: Stores Requiring ID, Tracking To Prevent Repeated Returns
CBS Local ^ | November 20, 2012

Posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:31 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) – When you make a return this holiday season you may have to hand over more than just your receipt, as retailers try to prevent repeated returns.

“I was required to provide them a copy of my driver’s license, where they actually took the information and scanned it into their database,” said a shopper who asked to be identified only as Leslie.

Leslie told the sales associate at The Children’s Place that she was uncomfortable handing over her ID just to make an exchange, but she was told that the requirement is corporate policy.

In fact, according to the National Retail Federation, 62 percent of retailers have a similar policy. Among those who demand ID for returns are The Finish Line, Home Depot, Target and more.

So where does your information go? Likely it’s being stored on The Retail Equation, a service which tracks how often you bring stuff back and identifies habitual returners.

The retail exchange has said return fraud and “renting” – buying an item to wear and return – costs the retail industry billions each year.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: retail; returns
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You'll need an ID to return something, but not to vote?
1 posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:37 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Incredible!!!!!!! This country is upside down!

2 posted on 11/21/2012 9:43:22 AM PST by Exit148
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
That's what I thought, also.

More required to return Chatty Cathy than to vote for president.

3 posted on 11/21/2012 9:43:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I can’t believe these evil retailers are suppressing the poor, elderly and minorities by requiring them to show an ID for returns.

What a racist based retail system we have.

Where are the protests, where are the democrats to defend these people that are obviously having their right to return products suppressed.

4 posted on 11/21/2012 9:46:09 AM PST by A message
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This happened to me a couple of years ago at a local Ross store. I refused to give my ID, told them I would keep the darn blouse and give it away. Also that I would not be returning to their store which I haven’t. They didn’t care.

5 posted on 11/21/2012 9:46:16 AM PST by sheana
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I have no problem giving my ID to Home Depot when I return lumber or hardware I didn’t use. They often require it for store credit and cash returns, and since I generally go back to spend that money on something else in the store, it’s not really a loss for them.

The idea of storing the information to track habitual returners is a bit much though. What are they going to do, turn you away from the store or otherwise ban you from shopping there?

I don’t understand the “renting” of things though. The black community, specifically rappers, made it popular about 10 years ago to buy clothes and leave the tags on them. It became a status symbol of sorts. The fact that they were returning those items is tragic if not comical and I think a testament to society overall.

6 posted on 11/21/2012 9:46:39 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is OK, but to vote it isn’t?

This is a country that has lost any idea of who it is. It has lost its self-esteem. It doesn’t care what happens to it.
Borders language culture. What’s left?

7 posted on 11/21/2012 9:47:12 AM PST by I want the USA back (Borders language culture. We've lost all 3.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I've read numerous posts on photography forums describing buying a series of expensive cameras, using them for a while and returning them for refunds.

It does fuel the refurb market but retailers can't be happy with it.

8 posted on 11/21/2012 9:54:00 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (')
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To: rarestia
What are they going to do, turn you away from the store or otherwise ban you from shopping there?

You're still free to shop, they just want people to stop returning things they purchased but never intended to keep. There are valid reasons for returns, but some people do it habitually or to obtain use of an item for a short time.

9 posted on 11/21/2012 9:57:47 AM PST by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: sheana
I have sympathy for retailers since I used to work in the industry myself in a previous life.

There is a certain subset of the population which exploits generous return policies offered by retailers to make money.

Most of our returns were legitimate and smoothly performed. Without a receipt, you got trade credit instead of cash back. But, in those days, store management was relatively experienced and able to sort the legitimate customers from the grifters. These days, the store manager might be some 23 year old kid who passed a drug test and managed to keep the job for a couple years to get promoted.

We had some really weird returns back in the 1980's including obviously used merchandise and people who would steal stuff from one store in our chain to be refunded at another. My favorite manager was a black guy who looked like he could have sung for The Platters or one of those other clean cut singing groups.

One day, this seriously overweight black lady brings some obviously worn beach sandals into the store to demand a refund. Our guys says "Are you sure you bought these new?"

The lady says "yes."

Our guy says "That's not possible because we don't sell them in that condition. No way can I give you a refund or store credit."

Lady gets all huffy and screams "I don't appreciate you calling me a liar!"

Our guy points her to the door and says "And I don't appreciate being lied to."

Everybody who could hear the conversation, customers and employees alike, begin applauding as she slinked out the door.

10 posted on 11/21/2012 10:03:36 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Yes! Massive disenfranchisement of returners by evil capitalists seeking to maximize profits! We need the ACLU on this right away.

11 posted on 11/21/2012 10:13:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Home Defect does this all the time. I constantly see people returning power tools after a single use. I routinely buy refurb power tools from places like CPO on the web and basically receive a brand new tool for like 40% off retail. The pool of tools out there must be astronomical.

As a contractor, I’m always returning (UNUSED) items usually for store credit. The only way I return anything else is if it is defective.

12 posted on 11/21/2012 10:13:33 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Just after being released from Desert Shield/Storm, I took a part time job for the Christmas rush at a Montgomery Ward store in Indianapolis. I worked in “Electronic Avenue”. I was floored by the many returns of previously sold merchandise purchased either during the previous Christmas or during the after Christmas sales. Most were cordless phones or other small electronics. The phones looked like they had been used in a combat zone but since they had bought the “extended warranty” (a high profit item for the store), all were “entitled” to a newer, comparable phone. No doubt they would all be returned for next Christmas if they lasted that long. I often thought this was one of the reasons Wards went bankrupt.

I did get a great RCA clock radio for myself which had a wonderful radio and sound. It worked great until my cat threw up on the speaker grill. I’ve replaced the speaker but the control wires broke and I’m still trying to find a replacement.

13 posted on 11/21/2012 10:16:06 AM PST by miele man
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Have you donated yet?

14 posted on 11/21/2012 10:18:19 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Vigilanteman
My daughter worked at Nordstrom during college breaks. She had amazing return stories of people abusing Nordstrom's incredibly generous return policies. I think they've since cracked down because of abuse. All employees at Nordstrom learn about the famous "tire return" incident...more here.
15 posted on 11/21/2012 10:22:14 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: miele man

Up here in Massachusetts, there was once a wonderful retail store from the 1970’s through the 1990’s called Lechmere that had great bargains, large selection, and treated their customers like gold. Everyone I knew went there to buy stuff, cameras, clothes, etc.

If you had a problem of any kind, you returned it and were given a replacement or a refund, no questions asked. You didn’t even need the reciept.

I remember people proudly telling me they would buy an item such as a camera for vacation, large television for a sports event, a suit for a wedding, and just return it and get a refund afterwards, no questions asked.

I was flabbergasted. It wasn’t that I didn’t know people could be so dishonest, it was that they talked about it so openly and proudly.

Lechmere went out of business in the 1990’s.

16 posted on 11/21/2012 10:29:54 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Exit148

Service Merchandise was doing that back in the early 90’s.
Since when is this a news story?

17 posted on 11/21/2012 10:36:53 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I knew of a way to get $15-20 in store credit for $.01. It was very widely abused and people would literally have thousands of dollars in store electronic gift cards.

Yes, $15-20 in store credit for ONE CENT by abusing return policies. Of course this was years ago and every retailer whose return policy would allow you to do this has been gone for more than 5 years.

Do not underestimate the cost of return abuse to a retailer. Every retailer I’ve seen that didn’t clamp down on this, and we’re talking multiple big box retailers, is bankrupt.

Comp USA, Circuit City, Media Play were all great... once.

18 posted on 11/21/2012 10:45:29 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: rarestia
Those damned rappers!

19 posted on 11/21/2012 10:46:27 AM PST by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Fraud is so rampant I can easily understand why retailers would take such steps to defend themselves and their livelihood. It's a few bad apples that make these measures necessary. If you don't like it, there are other retail choices, but try to look at it from the perspective of a store owner.

Just the other day, a FReeper who shopped at Fry's commented on how while they were in line waiting, a woman attempted to return a camera. On opening the box, the clerk discovered it was a rock and not a camera inside. Then came the tears and denial, and the woman eventually blamed it on her husband waiting in the car in the parking lot. As he watched, the woman was detained until the police arrived, then escorted outside to identify her husband waiting in the car. Both were arrested.

Such as it is, who can blame stores for monitoring against this kind of fraud?

20 posted on 11/21/2012 10:50:45 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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