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Hostess Mediation Fails, Liquidation To Proceed; Furious Laid Off Workers Now Turn On Labor Union
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/20/12 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:57 PM PST by Nachum

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To: taxcontrol

“Is there any avenue for the workers who lost their jobs to sue the union?”

It’d probably be pretty silly to sue the union after their heath care is gone and then have to deal with two broken legs. But, that’s just my quick take.

On the for-real side, they joined the union and probably gave up most of their individual rights as part of the bargain.


51 posted on 11/20/2012 8:56:02 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: dfwgator

“Bimbo is the largest bakery corporation in the World.

Is Sandra Fluke their spokesperson?”

Not yet, but I hear they are going to be getting into the condiment business. Ba da bump.


52 posted on 11/20/2012 8:57:52 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Nachum

I hope these Ding Dongs laid in their supply of Twinkies. Maybe they can sell them on ebay.


53 posted on 11/20/2012 8:58:03 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: dfwgator
Hell no, they are one righteous company.

Their owner is one of the richest men in the world.

54 posted on 11/20/2012 9:01:37 PM PST by dalereed
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Don’t know. I never ate any Bimbo bread. Is it fresh?
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They pretty much own everything, almost too many to list.

However, here are a few... Mrs. Bairds bread, Arnold's bread, Oroweat bread, Brownberry, Thomas English muffins, Thomas bagels, Dutch County bread, Sara Lee bread, Bimbo bread, Weight Watchers bread, Ball Park buns, and they also own Entenmanns.
They also make the private label bread for many companies, including Walmart.

55 posted on 11/20/2012 9:05:22 PM PST by kara37
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To: Cheerio

“...AND WHO IS ON THE OTHER SIDE? ADMINISTRATORS WHO ALSO ARE PAID WITH TAXES.”

It’s even worse than that. At the federal level, the president, and at the state level, the governor—approve the bargaining position and final offer on behalf of the taxpayers. And who paid more than anyone to get this president and (most) governors elected? The unions. Talk about a massive conflict of interest.


56 posted on 11/20/2012 9:05:47 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: BenLurkin

The National Labor Relations Board would never let that happen and the Dept of “Justice” would support them.


57 posted on 11/20/2012 9:14:57 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Nachum

It would never occur to them to blame themselves, they are democrats.


58 posted on 11/20/2012 9:28:23 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (')
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To: Nachum

Ping
nice article


59 posted on 11/20/2012 9:28:42 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Nachum

Look for the union label.

If they’re dumb enough to join the union, they deserve the punishment.


60 posted on 11/20/2012 9:33:37 PM PST by lurk
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To: dfwgator

“Is Sandra Fluke their spokesperson? “

Good one. I remember as a kid seeing the TV commercials for Wonder Bread, with the “colorful balloons on the wrapper.” With Sandra Fluke as their modern day spokesperson, she could describe the “colorful condoms on the wrapper.”


61 posted on 11/20/2012 9:34:17 PM PST by Avid Coug
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62 posted on 11/20/2012 9:36:30 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: MondoQueen
Twinkies have a shelf life of 32 years........

8:}

63 posted on 11/20/2012 9:36:58 PM PST by AwesomePossum
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To: castlebrew

Exactly...

Notice how we never hear about how our Military is doing in Afghanistan? It’s like they dropped off the face of the earth in the months leading up to the Election.

No hourly Casualty counts like when Bush was in Office. No horror stories about how the Troops mistreat the poor Taliban, nothing.

It’s not the News Reports, it’s who Reports the News. Stalin is looking up and smiling at his protégé, Barry Milhouse Obama.


64 posted on 11/20/2012 9:42:59 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (As the Chinese say, erections have consequences...)
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To: elpadre

They are liquidating. You buy the goodwill, the intellectual property (ie, recipes), brand equity, and brand names. Maybe you buy the machinery, but you disassemble it and ship it to a new factory in a right to work state or in Mexico.

They are not selling it as an on-going enterprise.


65 posted on 11/20/2012 10:08:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: elpadre
Not sure an investor would have to take the union if it just bought the intellectual property (recipes in this case) and trademarks.

Then if i understand it correctly, they could form a new company in a right-to-work state and have no unions, right?

66 posted on 11/20/2012 10:09:39 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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67 posted on 11/20/2012 10:17:39 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; ExTexasRedhead; M Kehoe; MinuteGal

I have used these for years - don’t know what they’re called.

“Don’t know. I never ate any Bimbo bread. Is it fresh?”

“Don’t know. I never ate any Bimbo ... bread. Is it fresh?”

Might just change the meaning, slightly ................................................ FRegards


68 posted on 11/20/2012 10:27:37 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Zhang Fei

>> International Brotherhood of Teamsters,

Guess the US ain’t good enough.


69 posted on 11/20/2012 10:41:29 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: DManA

No. It’s a ponzi scheme. Current union retiree’s are seeing a problem because Hostess hasn’t payed into the pension fund for over a year. My buddy and his wife, who never worked for Hostess depend on Hostess’ payments to the union welfare trust for a portion of their monthly pension funding. Bad news for more than the 18,000 immediately affected, I’m afraid.

Watch Obama assume distressed pensions on our dime. We can all be “Obamatired!”


70 posted on 11/20/2012 10:46:15 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: MondoQueen
How could Bimbo make everything in Mexico and get it all over the United States by 3:00 AM every morning?

FedEx :P

71 posted on 11/20/2012 10:58:32 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Jalapeno Twinkie hot dog buns.
72 posted on 11/20/2012 11:25:39 PM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Darnright

Bimbo? I think Clinton liked to eat Bimbo tarts . . . .


73 posted on 11/21/2012 12:54:19 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Nachum

Looks to me like the unions have another bread and butter ticket. Who cares about 18,000 folks when there is WALMART to conquer!
How much power will the unions/Obama have then? And how much more will America have lost? Black Friday protests are coming and they mean business. It’s going to be a very ugly Friday and our Zippy is instigating it. He has a one track mind I’m thinkin’.


74 posted on 11/21/2012 1:04:07 AM PST by tinamina
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To: Nachum

So. why don’t a bunch of unions get together and buy the company and run it the way they wish? Wouldn’t that prove to the world that the union way is the best way? hehe.


75 posted on 11/21/2012 3:19:39 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll (Liberals love to do what is "best" for you, even if it kills you.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“18,500 American jobs headed to MEHico and the union declares a great victory!”

LOL It certainly underscores the ignorance and IQ levels of obama voters.


76 posted on 11/21/2012 3:38:03 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Nachum

All went according to plan.


77 posted on 11/21/2012 4:43:47 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I never ate any Bimbo bread. Is it fresh?

IMHO, it's the freshest and most reasonably priced name-brand on the market....and I'm REALLY picky about my bread! :-)

78 posted on 11/21/2012 4:44:19 AM PST by MamaTexan (In Propria Persona)
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To: Nachum
Buy a Woopie cake pan or a lady finger pan and you can make your own Susie Q's or Twinkies much fresher and tastier than the ones you buy in the store, just individual wrap, can custom make to taste like orange, coconut, chocolate chips etc, store in fridge to firm up. Add half cup of milk to the cake mix instead of the full amount of water and it is more moist.

My first try, and hubby LOVES them. You have to play with the amount of batter you put in the shallow pan, they make 6 halves at a time. I used cream cheese frosting for the filling. There choices are nearly endless. You need a pipping bag if you do the lady finger pan to fill them...just yellow cake mix, don't forget the milk for added moisture.


79 posted on 11/21/2012 5:42:54 AM PST by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: Zhang Fei

can’t be posted as an article, but you can go read what 0 is going to do to our MILITARY

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2012/11/avoiding-the-fiscal-cliff-could-be-equally-painful/#.UKrccturh3w.facebook


80 posted on 11/21/2012 5:45:37 AM PST by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: BenLurkin
Tennessee is a right to work state, and the Hostess workers are on strike here too. That does not mean that the parent company can not fire them all and hire non-union workers...and if you want your job back you start at beginner's wages and lose seniority. LOL

We are watching the Men who made America and it is interesting the method's Carnegie went to with his manager Fisk to kill over worked, really under paid for the dangerous jobs they did and in dangerous conditions. The stand off/strike resulted in 9 workers dead...Pinkerton's killed them willy nilly, the workers were armed at best with rocks. They shot them like sitting ducks in one of those shooting gallery things. Some of them barely 18.

I can see how unions got a foot hold, but they have FAR exceeded what they originally were about worker safety and a fair wage for the job performed.

My dad was a boiler maker in one of the largest steel mills in E. Chicago, IN, Youngstown Sheet and Tube. Union was useless when he accidentally fell and damaged his neck and spine and was injured to the point he could no longer do his job.

81 posted on 11/21/2012 5:57:42 AM PST by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: Cheerio

For me it is more GOVERNMENT UNIONS they are the WORST on the planet! They actually don’t have to WORK. Just draw that big fat pay check.


82 posted on 11/21/2012 6:01:43 AM PST by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: GailA
We are watching the Men who made America and it is interesting the method's Carnegie went to with his manager Fisk to kill over worked, really under paid for the dangerous jobs they did and in dangerous conditions. The stand off/strike resulted in 9 workers dead...Pinkerton's killed them willy nilly, the workers were armed at best with rocks. They shot them like sitting ducks in one of those shooting gallery things. Some of them barely 18.

Two things - (1) they were on company property and preventing the company from hiring new people and conducting its business and (2) there's quite a bit of union myth-making involved on this incident, if the left-leaning Wikipedia is to be believed:

On July 6, 1892, during the Homestead Strike, 300 Pinkerton detectives from New York and Chicago were called in by Carnegie Steel's Henry Clay Frick to protect the Pittsburgh area mill and strikebreakers. This resulted in a fire fight and siege in which 16 men were killed (seven Pinkertons and nine strikers). To restore order two brigades of the Pennsylvania militia were called out by the Governor.
Unions couldn't exist without an anti-trust exemption from the government. How is it fair that unions can band together to go after employers, whereas employers can't band together to go after unions? In a democracy, unions have the whip hand - they can get legislation passed that benefits unions, whereas employers are relentlessly fighting rearguard actions. In my view, unions ought to have their anti-trust exemption revoked.
83 posted on 11/21/2012 6:38:40 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: bigfootbob

A Teamster retiree called into a local talk show a couple of days ago complaining that his pension is being cut due to the Hostess workers’ pension contributions no longer being paid for.


84 posted on 11/21/2012 6:41:44 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Nachum

their union screwed these stupid people and now they are mad..what did they expect when they price themselves out of the market?


85 posted on 11/21/2012 6:55:35 AM PST by dalebert
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[Doug Mansky, a Hostess driver in Detroit and a member of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, was in the process of moving to a cheaper condominium on Tuesday, after his union had agreed to an 8% pay cut that he said would shave $200 a week from his income. After Judge Drain cleared Hostess to impose the same new labor terms on the bakers union, they went on strike.]

That means he was making $120,000 a year plus benefits. After the 8% cut he would have been making $110,400 plus benefits (including a 3% annual raise starting next year). Wonder what his unemployment will pay?


86 posted on 11/21/2012 7:20:39 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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"Doug Mansky, a Hostess driver in Detroit and a member of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, was in the process of moving to a cheaper condominium on Tuesday, after his union had agreed to an 8% pay cut that he said would shave $200 a week from his income."

UN...FRIGGIN... BELIEVABLE. This self-centered jerk is making $2500.00 a WEEK as a delivery driver of cupcakes? That is $10,000 dollars a MONTH, $120,000 dollars a year (Not to mention all his healthcare benefits, pension/s, etc.) and he wants my heart to bleed because he has to move out of his mansion in a gated community into a mansion in a not so gated community? F*** 'EM. Salaries like this is what has driven so many unionized companies out of business and/or overseas. No wonder the prices of everything is skyrocketing.

Sheeeeeez.... When will people pull their heads out?

"God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

87 posted on 11/21/2012 7:22:22 AM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: elpadre

That’s the fun part of liquidation, nobody will buy the company which includes the union contracts, they’ll buy the recipes and logos.


88 posted on 11/21/2012 7:24:52 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: blueunicorn6

A guy driving a delivery truck makes more than 98% of the airline pilots in the US. Hmmm, seems odd.


89 posted on 11/21/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GailA

Yum!


90 posted on 11/21/2012 7:35:59 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Joker - It’s all part of the plan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWILhrSzw5o


91 posted on 11/21/2012 7:37:18 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In my house, Sara Lee which is Bimbo product, is the only bread we eat. It is always fresh.


92 posted on 11/21/2012 7:37:48 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Nachum

Now they are eligible for ObamaFone!!! And eternal unemployment benefits


93 posted on 11/21/2012 7:44:05 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Nachum
Doug Mansky, a Hostess driver in Detroit and a member of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, was in the process of moving to a cheaper condominium on Tuesday, after his union had agreed to an 8% pay cut that he said would shave $200 a week from his income. After Judge Drain cleared Hostess to impose the same new labor terms on the bakers union, they went on strike.

If this is true then it wasn't the Baker's Union that was bankrupting the company but the Teamsters and they weren't striking and pulling down over $120,000/yr. I wonder bread wonder why???? Unless he misspoke and meant $200 a month which is a more credible $30,000 + bennies.

94 posted on 11/21/2012 7:47:24 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Gene Eric

Actually, there were two unions involved ... Teamsters and the Bakery union. Teamsters AGREED to the cuts, the Bakery union was the weevil in the bread that spoiled it for everyone. “Knowing” how the Teamsters seem to act when things don’t go their way ..... do you think the Bakery union guys who blew the whole deal for everybody maybe are a little nervous and watching their backs these days ...hmmm?


95 posted on 11/21/2012 7:51:11 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: MamaTexan; FlingWingFlyer
Agreed. I usually bake my own bread from scratch, but sometimes my schedule doesn't allow it. On those weeks I usually buy Bimbo wheat bread if I can find it. It isn't quite as good as my own handmade bread, but it is still pretty darn good for the money.
96 posted on 11/21/2012 7:51:11 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
the union leader said Mr. Hurt said, "I don't want anybody to think that anybody is guaranteeing anyone anything, but we did know that there were people taking a look at this company." -- what a maroon -- why would any company take on a producer of unhealthy, out of fashion food stuffs especially with Moochelle around?
97 posted on 11/21/2012 7:57:28 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: elpadre; M-cubed

Grupo Bimbo makes their stuff for the Mexican market. Most likely they’ll buy the rights to the brand in NA and then manufacture the stuff in Mexico to sell north of the border. Bye, bye union jobs...


98 posted on 11/21/2012 7:59:37 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Nachum

So the workers didn’t care if the company they worked for went under, just as long as someone else bought them and out and they could benefit by it. SCREW ‘EM


99 posted on 11/21/2012 8:07:31 AM PST by mancini
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To: Nachum

Typical liberals - slow learners. Now that the company they used to work for is dead, now that they are losing their high-pay unskilled jobs, and now that it’s too late to change the outcome - finally they are learning. The union used them and then killed their jobs because the goons decided the showdown would be good for union leaders in general, regardless of the damage to union workers.


100 posted on 11/21/2012 8:16:36 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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