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Hostess Mediation Fails, Liquidation To Proceed; Furious Laid Off Workers Now Turn On Labor Union
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/20/12 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:57 PM PST by Nachum

Last week, when discussing the next steps for the company, and specifically the hope that mediation may resolve the epic animosity between management and workers, we stated that "What makes a mediation improbable is that the antagonism between the feuding sides has certainly hit a level of no return: "Several unions also objected to the company's plans, saying they made "a mockery" of laws protecting collective bargaining agreements in bankruptcy. The Teamsters, which represents 7,900 Hostess workers, said the company's plan would improperly cut the ability of remaining workers to use sick days and vacation." Sure enough, moments ago we learned that mediation has now failed and the liquidation may proceed. And since in America nobody understands that proper sequence of events involved in a bankruptcy liquidation, where the valuable parts always end up being acquired by someone, in this case the Twinkie brand and recipe, let the pointless Ebay bidding wars over twinkies continue. As for what really happens next, if indeed Bimbo is prohibited from acquiring the assets in the Stalking Horse auction due to anti-trust limitations, then the buyer will almost certainly be a "financial", i.e., another PE firm, whose coming means the end of any hopes and dreams of preserving union status at fresh start Hostess, or whatever the new firm will be named.

From the WSJ:

Hostess Brands Inc. said Tuesday night it would proceed with liquidation plans after mediation fails.

Earlier Tuesday, the head

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostess; labor; mediation; schadenfreude; union
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To: Pollster1
Typical liberals - slow learners.

You can't fix retarded.

141 posted on 11/21/2012 3:20:45 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: windsorknot

“HOSTESS SHRUGGED”

Yes, and I’m sure many more important people and companies will be heading for the gulch soon too!


142 posted on 11/21/2012 3:21:50 PM PST by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cpdiii

Mud Man, now there is one slick job.


143 posted on 11/21/2012 3:34:54 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ( Your life is like a coin, you can spend it on what ever you want, but you can only spend it once.)
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To: Nachum
The guys I am sorry for are the non-union workers (a majority) that the brotherHOODS screwed over.

As for the union thugs let them eat bark.

I have seen unions reject machinery that made the work place safer. Who cares if an average of 6 of their members per year end up with crush injuries? Not the union! It was the "evil management" who wanted to protect the guys doing a more dangerous then it had to be job.

I have seen them sabotage their own product not because of a labor dispute but from sheer nastiness.

I have seen them come in drunk or high repeatedly and be sent off to rehab at company expense also repeatedly.

Unions are protection rackets and should be shut down.

144 posted on 11/21/2012 3:36:08 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Schadenfreude video/song
145 posted on 11/21/2012 3:55:26 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: windsorknot


146 posted on 11/21/2012 3:57:26 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Let the union pay the members incomes, after all they collected all those union fees for years and decades in some cases, oh wait silly me.
Those fees went to getting rats elected even if the union member did not want the rat.


147 posted on 11/21/2012 4:04:13 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Pollster1
Your comment made me think of this Star Wars scene, only with the former Hostess workers there isn't a happy ending.

"Young fool. Only now at the end do you understand."

148 posted on 11/21/2012 4:05:56 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: MondoQueen
Bimbo's wiki page has them having 35 factories all over the US.
149 posted on 11/21/2012 4:06:49 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kara37
Does everyone really think they can make bread products in Mexico, drive them across the border and then proceed to deliver them all over the US and still manage to deliver fresh bread?

Even if you could keep the bread fresh, I doubt you could sell it at a profit in Chicago or NYC, after sending empty trucks on a round trip to Mexico, and back, even if you were given the bread at no cost.

150 posted on 11/21/2012 5:31:13 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: kara37
Does everyone really think they can make bread products in Mexico, drive them across the border and then proceed to deliver them all over the US and still manage to deliver fresh bread?

Even if you could keep the bread fresh, I doubt you could sell it at a profit in Chicago or NYC, after sending empty trucks on a round trip to Mexico, and back, even if you were given the bread at no cost.

151 posted on 11/21/2012 5:44:33 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner; kara37
Bimbo already owns scads of bakeries in the USA.

See Sara Lee...

152 posted on 11/21/2012 6:31:44 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: blueunicorn6
They are probably working off a fully loaded cost rather than just the worker's salary.

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153 posted on 11/21/2012 7:18:36 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Pilsner
Correct. Your typical bakery operates within an 80 mile radius or so. A little more when you get way out into sparsely populated states like the Rocky Mountains and northern Great Plains states. That's about the limit for your typical route driver to make his rounds and return to the plant by quitting time.

The larger radius in sparsely populated areas isn't due only to a more spread-out distribution base, it is also due to the fact that much lighter traffic allows for far better distance coverage in the same amount of work day.

I know this from a previous job which included distribution of bakery products. In very densely populated areas, your distribution radius is even smaller, sometimes as little as 15 or 20 miles.

154 posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:14 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: elpadre

My broker years ago tried to include Hostess in my portfolio. Either that or Sandisk. I chose Sandisk.


155 posted on 11/21/2012 8:34:40 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Nachum
So the Baker's Union puts Teamsters out of work?? In the 'olden days' that wouldn't be a very healthy thing to do.

And not that I'm insinuating anything but this Baker's Union President better stay away from Pizza Ovens. He might trip and have his head fall right into one. (just sayin')

156 posted on 11/22/2012 4:15:40 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Nachum

Unfortunately I just randomly read on a blog somewhere that the twitterers are blaming the greedy capitalist businesses for the shutdown of Hostess - nothing gets through to these communists. I am truly anxious about how absolutely brainwashed most of the people in this country have become.


157 posted on 11/22/2012 5:34:02 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: kara37
They make their stuff in the market that they are sold. They are the largest US bakery, and their stuff for the US is made in the US. They have 49 bakeries and most of their products are made in the same state they are delivered. There is no other way to get the stores fresh bread.

For bread, sure. For Twinkies, cupcakes, etc, a few days of transport would not hurt them.

158 posted on 11/22/2012 6:40:29 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Pilsner
Even if you could keep the bread fresh, I doubt you could sell it at a profit in Chicago or NYC, after sending empty trucks on a round trip to Mexico, and back, even if you were given the bread at no cost.

For long hauls, you generally use an independent trucking firm that would be hauling one product in one direction, and whatever load was available in the other.

159 posted on 11/22/2012 6:46:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: DManA
I suppose there are pensions. I wonder if they are fully funded?

I may be wrong but I believe the pensions fall under the Teamster umbrella........Additionally, I think that if you're a teamster, you're forbidden to go out and get a job in your respective trade in a non-union facility. You have to sign up for work at your union hall and you go on a waiting list. When jobs become available, your union hall then sends you out when your name comes up......

I know a retiree who was an electrician for the Detroit school system and he got that job through the IBEW after being unemployed for a year and a half.

A good friend of mine's nephew is in the sheet metal workers union here and he was unemployed for about 2 1/2 years until they called him up for a job.

These unions are ruthless too if they find out you're working in a non-union shop. My friend's nephew was on his union's pension board and they discovered a retiree who was working and they legally fined him $17,000 and withheld his pension until he paid it off. Their legal rationalization was that they had provided him the free apprenticeship training and the jobs throughout his career and thus he belonged to them.

160 posted on 11/22/2012 8:35:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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