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To: Bellflower
The American Revolution, probably some scared Minuteman. British training was little short of organized sadism at this time in history. Chinese revolution, Communists fired first. You are fixating on the Civil War. Yes Germany lost but you are talking a different type of war. This is a revolution and firing first many times leads to victory.It can be argued that the Communists fired first in their revolution with various assassinations etc. prior to the Czar's troops massacre on Bloddy Sunday 1905. During the revolution various socialists like the Bolsheviks, Menshevicks etc. joined together. They almost brought the government down at that point. WWI ended the peasants idea of “if only the Czar knew.”
44 posted on 11/21/2012 8:07:27 PM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: prof.h.mandingo
History shows that a first shot, singular, would be stupid and suicidal. Take away the singular and put in a vast plural, and you might not lose, depending on how smart you were about it, historically speaking, that is, of course.

My point is exactly yours, that historically speaking a first shot doesn't do any good, but many first shots at the same time, the element of total surprise, horror, and taking out the enemy in quantity before they even know what hit them, done wisely, can do much to win a cause. Historically speaking this has proven very effective, and is the only really intelligent way to begin a take over of a government. Historically speaking usually only the very wicked have had the gall, or stomach to behave in this manner, but it can be very effective, and quite intelligent. Your comment, "This is a revolution and firing first many times leads to victory." is an accurate comment, and actually the same point I was making, historically speaking that is. Of course secrecy, stealth, and the trusting of comrades, usually communistic, has been of utmost importance in these past historical scenarios.

46 posted on 11/22/2012 1:04:44 AM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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