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Boehner Tightens Grip on Rank & File GOP (Goes to war on Conservatives)
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Posted on 11/20/2012 5:31:41 PM PST by INVAR

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To: what's up

Yes. You said “The Budget”. That indicates there is one. Please link to it.


61 posted on 11/20/2012 6:48:27 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: palmer

The key is actually ridding the Right of people who worry about what the media has to say on any matter of governance.


62 posted on 11/20/2012 6:49:44 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up

Of course I was askign a rhetorical question. You said “that only came about...”.

No, my FRiend, it didn’t “come about”. Boner as leader of the GOP controlled house whipped the congress HE controlled into PASSING it.

Boner GAVE US this zombie bill that has risen from the grave to screw us. It didn’t “come about”. Boner GAVE BIRTH TO IT.

Boner had alternatives, but not the spine to choose them.

That’s my point. Lose the passive voice that implies Boner was a victim in this disaster, and we’ll be cool.


63 posted on 11/20/2012 6:50:23 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Norm Lenhart
We're running on old numbers which were passed several years ago.

Sequestration are cuts to this.

I'm not sure what your point is.

64 posted on 11/20/2012 6:51:02 PM PST by what's up
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To: Nervous Tick
Boner GAVE US

The committees created it.

But what exactly is your point. Cuts did happen.

65 posted on 11/20/2012 6:53:15 PM PST by what's up
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To: Nervous Tick
Boner GAVE US

The committees created it.

But what exactly is your point. Cuts did happen.

66 posted on 11/20/2012 6:53:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: Norm Lenhart
The key is actually ridding the Right of people who worry about what the media has to say on any matter of governance.

No, your goal is simply an angry leader who rant and rave in front of the cameras and lose the big TARP-like vote, the one for all the enchiladas. My goal is a leader who will bob and weave and get us something. I admit my plan is not perfect and might even suck, but it's better than getting nothing.

67 posted on 11/20/2012 6:53:35 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: what's up

The point is that you are full of it up to your ears. There is no budget. Bohner has a documented record of caving in and giving away the store for at best, table scraps that the Dem Dogs come in and then steal from your plate.

Lastly, several of us have pointed out your fantasies and you play dumb.

It is what it is.


68 posted on 11/20/2012 6:54:05 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nervous Tick

By that I mean the committee decided where the cuts should come from.


69 posted on 11/20/2012 6:54:05 PM PST by what's up
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To: palmer

My goal is to have a leader that follows his party’s own platform.

Yours is obvious.


70 posted on 11/20/2012 6:55:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
There is no budget

We are operating on baseline numbers passed with the last budget.

For some reason you think that's some kind of fantasy but it's not.

71 posted on 11/20/2012 6:56:53 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Show me the budget you claimed there was.

The ‘numbers mean nothing. Obama spends and Bhoner passes continuing resolutions. Do you deny that?


72 posted on 11/20/2012 6:58:17 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up

Cuts didn’t happen. Reductions in increases, those happened.

The vast majority of that 1.2 trillion in cuts you tout are maybe cuts to be realized in the future.

However, Obama’s trillion-dollars-a-year increase in the deficit, that was REAL MONEY. Boner let him have it.

My point: Boehner could have used his huge, fired-up majority to take Obama to the brink AND BEYOND IT if necessary to protect the US from fiscal ruin. That’s why the founders gave the purse to the representatives of the people.

Boner had the sacred watch, and he did NOT get the job done. And here we are again.

Of course, the founders probably didn’t count on crybabies without testicles running the COngress.


73 posted on 11/20/2012 6:59:11 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: INVAR; Norm Lenhart

There are more conservatives members this term than last in the Republican Caucus. Boehner can count.


74 posted on 11/20/2012 6:59:18 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
The budget we are operating with is the one Congress passed last.

I did not mean a '12 budget. I meant the one in operation under the current numbers in place.

I don't know why you are making this such a large deal. It's fairly simple.

Sequestration cut those numbers.

75 posted on 11/20/2012 7:00:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: mrsmith

Counted them right to the back of the bus.


76 posted on 11/20/2012 7:00:50 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
My goal is to have a leader that follows his party’s own platform.

Here's the whole tax platform (excluding a few apple pie things like deductions): "We oppose tax policies that divide Americans or promote class warfare."

That means we aim for tax reform (reduces division of Americans) and hold the line on rates (no class warfare). It does not mean we must do nothing.

77 posted on 11/20/2012 7:01:28 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: what's up

“The only thing we’re seeing here is the usual MSM tactic of using rhetoric to turn conservatives against their leaders.

With ‘leaders’ like that, who needs Democrats?


78 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:24 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: what's up

I’m making it a ‘large deal’ because it is. You seem content to play word games.

There is no budget. Just continuing resolutions. Does Bohner say “NO?”

Nope. He gives Obama whatever money is demanded. Because he lacks the ability to do his elected job.


79 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: INVAR; All

Here’s an idea. Let’s all call our Republican congresspersons, and tell them we want them to vote Boehner OUT of the leadership position, the next time a vote comes up.


80 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:24 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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