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Get ready for the rate increases
1 posted on 11/20/2012 11:37:11 AM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 11/20/2012 11:38:20 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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3 posted on 11/20/2012 11:39:18 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

My pre-existing condition is oceans of debt. Now cover me!


4 posted on 11/20/2012 11:47:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Regulations released Tuesday will prohibit insurers from charging women a higher premium than men

It's now illegal to charge women a higher premium than men for medical insurance just because they use more medical services.

But it's still perfectly legal to charge men more for life insurance and car insurance because they cost more to cover.

5 posted on 11/20/2012 11:51:36 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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This is welfare, but it isn’t anywhere near “insurance”, by miles.

Pay the bill, suckers. Oh, my.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 11:52:51 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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So, the ACA is still being written, long after it was passed. That is an abomination unto itself, that the House and Senate of the USA passed a bill that was not in any way complete. I’m not up on the rules of Congress, but that certainly it seems as if passing laws that are not even written yet should not be legal. Not that it’s ever stopped this bunch before.

Pelosi told the truth (for once) and it served as a warning, when she said it would have to be passed so we could see what was in it.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 11:56:54 AM PST by Clarence
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Medicare Part B Premium for 2013 will be $105 a month.

Whether you're getting $1000 a month or $2000 a month...everyone pays the $105 out of their SS check.

With so many seniors now on SS, this should be rather lucrative for the government....which is probably why Obama robbed 2% of the SS Fund for the last 2 years.

Also, first time SS paid out more than it took in.....and no one noticed.

11 posted on 11/20/2012 12:02:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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I want pre-existing coverage required when I sign up for Car Insurance.

(*Hic!*)

Really Ocifer! I only had like mebbe a cupla beersSSs!


17 posted on 11/20/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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Great. First a massive unread bill that no one can understand. Now another 300-400 pages or so of rules to implement what's probably a few pages in the bill.

We're going to need multi-terabyte hard drives if we ever tryt to download the final copies of everything.

18 posted on 11/20/2012 12:39:55 PM PST by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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Reap the whirlwind slaves! That is now my standard response to anyone that has any complaint about higher costs, higher taxes, etc.


20 posted on 11/20/2012 1:07:16 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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So now, a man who is not ever going to encounter pregnancy costs is paying for women’s costs for pregnancy. That is the main difference between male and female insurance costs. I know from buying insurance for employees in the past. At one point, we had five men and one woman, and hers cost more than the rest of us combined.

This isn’t insurance any more. It is just cost distribution...and there is no personal accountability on costs...each person gets services, and the whole population is going to split the costs equally. All costs will go up and scarcity will soon ensue, creating less supply, longer waits and even higher costs. Brilliant.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 1:19:54 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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“HHS said it will allow plans to charge a higher deductible in order to meet the technical standards for a low-cost policy...’Otherwise, the math doesn’t work,’ Cohen said.”

The math still doesn’t work, buddy.

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What I’m wondering now is this: in cases where someone is paying premiums that exceed the cost of the Obamacare penalty, wouldn’t it make a certain sense to just drop your health coverage? Since pre-existing conditions can no longer be refused coverage, wouldn’t it make more sense to pay the penalty and then enroll in a plan if and when you get seriously ill?


25 posted on 11/20/2012 1:23:21 PM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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"require insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions"

The term 'insurance' is not relevant to FORCED, nationalized health care. Call them 'coverage' companies.

26 posted on 11/20/2012 1:29:07 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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Requiring companies to cover people for things that happened last year. Brilliant.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 1:33:51 PM PST by LibWhacker
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The reason they want pre-existing condition coverage is to eventually complain about the cost of them. Some day these people will be referred to the death panels. The death panel will determine that your newly discovered stage 3 or 4 cancer doesn’t meet the cost/benefit analysis, and you will be prescribed pain killers.


28 posted on 11/20/2012 1:37:52 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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The reason they want pre-existing condition coverage is to eventually complain about the cost of them. Some day these people will be referred to the death panels. The death panel will determine that your newly discovered stage 3 or 4 cancer doesn’t meet the cost/benefit analysis, and you will be prescribed pain killers.

And, they’ll use the same argument. Compassion. Out of compassion we need to cover these poor souls.

Future: out of compassion we need to ease their suffering out of this world.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 1:39:18 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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They have just changed their business model, they have thrown all actuarial responsibility out the window and exposed them to a moral hazard.

This will collapse the insurers which is their goal...

31 posted on 11/20/2012 1:43:14 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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“Covering people with preexisting conditions is expensive, and the law seeks to bring younger, healthier people into the system to offset the additional costs of covering sick people”

There's your tax “younger, healthier people”. To all the fools that voted for Obama, look in the mirror and say “dumb ass”.

34 posted on 11/20/2012 2:01:32 PM PST by tobyhill
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this was withheld until after the election, of course. no one called them on it.

and the obamites couldn’t stop talking about mittens’ “hidden” tax returns. the only thing “hidden” from us was what he was planning on doing to our health care as soon as he was safely reelected.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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So do these rules not apply in states that have refused to set up Obama’s exchanges?


36 posted on 11/20/2012 2:21:04 PM PST by Jedidah
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