Skip to comments.HHS releases rules requiring pre-existing conditions coverage
Posted on 11/20/2012 11:36:54 AM PST by Nachum
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Tell your friends that you hope they enjoy the *Medicaid* they voted for.
Yes, yes this will affect all insurance companies in all states and territories in the country.
The next question to ask is if the ObamaCare waivers for 2013 will allow those who receive the waiver to waive off the Pre-X regs.
This has turned into the enslavement of able bodied working aged males. They will be doubly burdened by the normalized premiums, both by gender nuetral and age nuetral normalization.
Expect to see the numbers of uninsured younger working age men in this country to skyrocket over the next 5 years , to at least double the current levels. Paying the yearly fine will be substantially cheaper than carrying the insurance.
This is exactly what happened in Massachusetts due to RomneyCare, and it will now spread throughout the country.
RomneyCare 2.0 With costs rising fast, Massachusetts moves to dictate medical care
Wall St. Journal ^ | August 5, 2012
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:01:54 AM by grundle
I can't wait to see the look on Sandra Fluck's face (actually, I can wait) when she finds out her insurance premiums are going to pay for me to have Viagra.
True. Or call them payers. The next step is single payer which is the overt goal of Obamacare. The final step is nationalized medicine since the single payer will dictate everything.
Yep, and there's another goal after that.
I take Synthroid for a thyroid disease, and as such I take medication daily and will continue to have to do so for the rest of my life. I also need to have a blood test every so often to check those levels to make sure they’re where they need to be.
Screw Buckwheat’s Nazi decrees. It’s time for states to arrest federal fascist bureaucrats and send them to prison. Ninety-nine years with possibility for parole in 100 years.
Expensive and affordable? Only in the mind of a liberal.
Are you saying that EVERYONE will have to pay this Part B coverage at $105 a month?
I don’t carry it and I know others who also don’t carry it.
Some of them are covered by the VA, so for them it is definately a coverage they don’t use.
I am healthy enough to not spend the money. I have been on Medicare for over 8 years and I haven’t used a penny of it.
Where is the “opt out” for the individual?
In most places I have worked, that was the case anyway.
There were two rates, Single and Family.
Other wise as a single man under the age of 25, I would have paid a lot more than the single many at the age of 30.
Many companies do this to avoid law suits and to simplify everything.
Find a copy of Range magazine- the Winter 2013 issue and go to page 89.
The EPA is trying to redefine ‘navigable waterway’ to cover a buffalo wallow.
For those who don’t know what that is, there are thousands of depressions in the Western plains that were buffalo wallows.
It is a slight depression, about the size of a 2 horse trailer, in which the buffalo would paw up the ground to get nice soft dust and then they would lay down & roll in the dust. That gave them a barrier against insects.
Such ‘wallows’ are all over about 16 western states.
The EPA wants to include them in ‘navigable waterways’.
They also want to include the rivelets of water which drain off your roof when snow is melting or it is raining. Another ‘navigable waterway’.
This definition change gives them a reason to come onto your private property at any time, without your permission, to make sure you are not ‘interferring’ with a navigable waterway!!!!
Were you expecting guests? Now, you can!!
So now, a man who is not ever going to encounter pregnancy costs is paying for womens costs for pregnancy.”””
Some companies wanted to make elderly women- well past child bearing age also pay a higher premium.
I fought with one employer that I had had a hysterectomy and since I could never have children, they had to drop my premium.
I sure had them in a tizzy. I actually found another job over the premiums I should not have had to pay.
The beginning of the end for insurers. In order to take on the increased risk of people with pre-ex ‘without’ being able to charge them higher premiums insurers will be forced to increase premiums on ‘everyone’. That will lead to healthy people opting NOT to get insurance but rather pay the small tax. If a healthy person gets sick since an insurer cant deny for pre-ex that person would just go and get insurance at that time. That means less and less healthy people insured and more and more sick people insured. Costs will be more than insurers are bringing in so they will raise premiums more and the above will continue. The death cycle will run its course until the intent of obamacare has arrived. Single payer.
“This has turned into the enslavement of able bodied working aged males”
Extortion: My long time tagline.
And a Permanent Bailout for the 2008 losers of the “financial” paradgm.
“Screw Buckwheats Nazi decrees. Its time for states to arrest federal fascist bureaucrats and send them to prison. Ninety-nine years with possibility for parole in 100 years.”
This is true. People need to carefully look up and understand the definition of Extortion.
“The beginning of the end for insurers”
All the “insurers” in Massachusetts gone under?
I read on another forum how a guy intended to "game" the system. Now he's self employed and pays $1200 per month for his coverage. He's healthy and going to drop that, and pay the $2000 fine (or whatever it is, might be lower.) That saves him a little more than $12,000 per year to pocket and pay for what healthcare he needs. If he gets really sick, he just picks up a policy since pre-existing can't be denied.
“Its is becoming clear that it is over for this program”
I wish I could believe that. Let’s hope and pray you’re right.
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