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HHS releases rules requiring pre-existing conditions coverage
The Hill ^ | 11/20/12 | Sam Baker

Posted on 11/20/2012 11:36:54 AM PST by Nachum

The Obama administration issued new rules Tuesday that require insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions — one of the most popular provisions of President Obama’s healthcare law. The Health and Human Services Department also began to implement other popular, but expensive, parts of the Affordable Care Act. Regulations released Tuesday will prohibit insurers from charging women a higher premium than men, and will require plans in every state to cover certain services.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; blog; conditions; healthcare; hhs; homosexualagenda; obamacare; preexisting; rules
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To: Nachum
The Obama administration issued new rules Tuesday that require insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions...

I still await the media to identify the cost to all of subsidizing the health care costs of the self destructive homosexual elephant in the room...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/the_aca_helps_lgbt_americans.pdf

LGBT individuals have encountered discrimination in the health care system for decades, and many studies have shown that LGBT people are affected by chronic disease at a higher rate than other Americans.

The new law has already made aignificant progress toward ending some of the worst insurance company abuses and helping ensure that LGBT Americans have access to coverage when they need it most. For example, the Affordable Care Act ends lifetime dollar limits on key benefits and restricts annual dollar limits until they are ended in 2014, allowing for long-term comprehensive treatment of chronic diseases.

The leftists ignore reality because it clashes with their Utopian vision of government imposed equality of results. Men & Women -the same -- Homosexual perverts and normal people -the same...

61 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:53 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: USAF80

If only you’d be advising Romney...


62 posted on 11/20/2012 8:29:22 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nachum

The health insurance industry has been antispating this for a while. Rates will go up until they go out of business for lack of consumers, Otherwise they will go out of business for lack of money.

The key now for that industry is to get into the good states & good graces of Federal & state politicians, as what is left of them will be little more than political puppets providing the cookie cutter policy’s(as dictated by regulations) to our entire population.

I sure hope you have the same Health concerns as the most politically important demographic group, because that is what the only available plans will be designed to deal with financially.


63 posted on 11/20/2012 11:11:48 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: DBeers

Costs will go up as fast as they possibly can, until the industry collapses.

The basic problem is there is no price control, there was not before, and now there is even less.

The key to our survival will be reviving the out of pocket system to replace the collapsing 3rd party payer system while milking as much of the money taken from us(by Washington) as possible thou scam, decent, and runaround to help offset said losses.


64 posted on 11/20/2012 11:20:23 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Moonman62

“Why can’t Republican politicians be as good as you at making a point on an issue?”

Simple...the liberal media will not cover that explanation. All they give a damn about is covering Odumbo’s ass.


65 posted on 11/21/2012 12:23:28 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Nachum
"Get ready for the rate increases."

Blue Cross has already been raising my rates every quarter for over a year now in preparation for this. For my PPO, a year and a half ago my monthly premium was around $750. Now it's now almost $1,000.

It's unsustainable.

66 posted on 11/21/2012 3:11:18 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

Yep, I’m with BCBS of Massachusetts (even though I’m in NC, my company is headquartered in Boston) and my premiums are going up over 20% next year. It’s an effective 2.5% pay cut for me, after getting one 3% raise in the past five years. I’ll be paying almost $350 every two weeks for our plan (which is pretty decent, no complaints about it) and that’s just my contribution, not whatever my company kicks in.

I can’t complain about the plan, but wow was it a shock during open enrollment this week to see those numbers. Thanks, Zero. No, really, thanks.

}:-)4


67 posted on 11/21/2012 3:51:06 AM PST by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: Varsity Flight
All the “insurers” in Massachusetts gone under?

Insurance companies have an underwriter. The underwriter is sometimes in another state or even another insurance company. The underwriter is like a big pool that pays out claims.

Think State Farm, they are huge. They can offset losses in one location (state) by profits from another location.

So to answer your question, no. You would not see insurance companies folding unless they are based only in Mass and their only product line is health insurance.

With ACA(sarc) all insurance companies will be affected. They will not go under because most insurance companies have other product lines, auto, property, liability, life, etc. Health insurance is not a big money maker as the claims eat into their profit margins.

What you may see is companies dropping health insurance from their product lines. I think The Principal has already done so.

68 posted on 11/21/2012 5:03:35 AM PST by USAF80
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To: 1010RD
I think most people don't understand how insurance works. They pay their premiums and that's it.

I had explained to my co-worker that insurance is like a big pool. One million clients paying one dollar a month creates a one million dollar pool to pay claims. If the pool was smaller, say 500K then each would pay $2 to get the same size one million dollar pool. He understood that concept.

A week later he came to me claiming I was wrong because under OBcare the pool would be bigger thus cost would be lower. He was all excited to “prove” me wrong.

The bubble busting part came when I told him the extra people would not be paying into the pool. When the realization sank in is when the silence occurred.

69 posted on 11/21/2012 5:15:48 AM PST by USAF80
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To: LibWhacker

Insurance companies provided a huge amount of support for this law. screw em


70 posted on 11/21/2012 5:20:29 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Doesn’t the premium go up to $200+ in 2014?


71 posted on 11/21/2012 5:21:45 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ilgipper
Well, Hubby and I had Insurance as individuals for about 15 years. They charged more than twice as much for me as they did for him.

I asked every year why I should have to pay more since I had a hysterectomy and couldn't get pregnant. The Insurance company stated the additional cost had nothing to do with pregnancy, but couldn't really explain it otherwise.

Anyhow, Hubby cost them lots more than I did, since he was hospitalized 3 times during that time period. I never spent more than $300.00 a year for Doctor, Dentist, Vision, and Medicine.

Cry me a River about how men have to subsidize women. It ain't necessarily so.

72 posted on 11/21/2012 5:38:31 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ilgipper

By the way, women do not usually experience immaculate conception. Some man out there is also culpable. Pregnancy takes two to tango.


73 posted on 11/21/2012 5:42:51 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
No...COLA is part of any increase and must cover any increase. I get a $15 a month COLA increase and will pay 1/3 or $5 to the Part B increase.

If someone gets a $30 a month increase, they also pay the $5 Part B increase.

What should happen is every COLA increase should be equal for all SS recipients. It makes much more sense.

74 posted on 11/21/2012 5:45:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks for the clarification. Just going on Medicare next month. Wasn’t sure what to expect. It seems that once you get to a certain age, there’s no private plan available, if you have worked enough to qualify for Medicare, then all you get are the alphabet choices.LOL


75 posted on 11/21/2012 6:13:20 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Joe Brower
It's unsustainable.

That's the idea.

76 posted on 11/21/2012 7:38:21 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jane Long; USAF80
Not only will more people getting coverage drive costs up, but, combined with docs choosing to drop out of this nightmare, there will be less docs to treat the massive increase of those "covered".

Tell your friends that you hope they enjoy the *Medicaid* they voted for.


Explain to your friends that there is a HUGE difference between having insurance and having healthcare!

As the costs go up, the number of doctors will decline. Who will WANT to spend 12+ years to become a doctor when they can no longer expect to make "doctor" wages? It is like the investors in insurance companies are going to see that they can only make so much profit - who will still want to invest in them when their chances of making a profit are reduced and IF they make a profit, it is limited in the amount which can be made?

This is designed to collapse the current system until the American people demand single-payer! Congress created a "solution" to a problem that didn't really exist; then when the real problems occur (collapsing insurance companies) then Congress will have to create a NEW solution (single-payer)! This is how Congress has been keeping their BS jobs for the last 50 years!
77 posted on 11/21/2012 8:07:44 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: TurboZamboni
I thought the 1996 HPPA law did that already...

The 1996 HIPPA law place limits on denial of coverage for preexisting condition. Many of these limits had to do with exclusions period for coverage of a preexisting condition when one moved to a new plan.
78 posted on 11/21/2012 9:38:56 AM PST by khelus
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To: ExTxMarine

Who will be running this “single payer” system anyway? Will it be insurance companies or government employed insurance agents.

Anyone know how the Brits and Canadians administer their programs?


79 posted on 11/21/2012 9:45:50 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Nachum

Get ready? Mine has already gone up.


80 posted on 11/21/2012 10:01:50 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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