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(CBS) Sources: DNI cut "al Qaeda" reference from Benghazi talking points, CIA, FBI signed off
CBS News ^ | November 20, 2012

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:52 AM PST by maggief

(CBS News) WASHINGTON - CBS News has learned that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) cut specific references to "al Qaeda" and "terrorism" from the unclassified talking points given to Amassador Susan Rice on the Benghazi consulate attack - with the agreement of the CIA and FBI. The White House or State Department did not make those changes.

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However, an intelligence source tells CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan the links to al Qaeda were deemed too "tenuous" to make public, because there was not strong confidence in the person providing the intelligence. CIA Director David Petraeus, however, told Congress he agreed to release the information -- the reference to al Qaeda -- in an early draft of the talking points, which were also distributed to select lawmakers.

"The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack." DNI spokesman Shawn Turner tells CBS News. That information was shared at a classified level -- which Rice, as a member of President Obama's cabinet, would have been privy to.

An intelligence source says the talking points were passed from the CIA to the DNI, where the substantive edits were made, and then to FBI, which made more edits as part of "standard procedure".

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; benghazi; benghaziwh; clapper; dni; jamesclapper; jamesrclapper; jimclapper; petraeus
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1 posted on 11/20/2012 7:04:02 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Yet still no information about why the CIA was told to stand down and now intervene. That’s the real story in this.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 7:07:51 AM PST by MatD
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To: MatD

Sorry ... “not intervene”.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 7:08:21 AM PST by MatD
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To: MestaMachine

Ping.

We are now in a p*ssing contest between the WH and two agencies.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 7:08:21 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: maggief

“CBS Sources”

Sorry, I’ll wait for a more trusted source.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 7:13:42 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: maggief

James R. Clapper

Director, National Intelligence

0bama has The Clap!


6 posted on 11/20/2012 7:15:47 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: MatD
Then why did the administration stick to that story long after it was clear that the consulate fell to an organized military assault rather than protesters who just happened to bring their RPGs with them?

This was changed to try to protect Obama in the lead up to the election. I don't know whether it was ordered by Obama or if the Director of National Intelligence just knew what he was supposed to do for his boss without being told.

7 posted on 11/20/2012 7:17:14 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: maggief

Questions to ask President Stand-Down at his next presser:

1. When did you learn of the attack on our Ambassador in Benghazi?

2. Where were you during the hours that the attack occurred?

3. When you learned of the attack, what were your specific orders?

These are via “The Great One”, Mark Levin.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 7:17:46 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: maggief

No doubt in my mind that FBI aka Eric Holder did the dirty work for Obama in editing those talking points. Obama/Holder/Jarrett are the triplets running our country. The new American trinity. gods of their own making.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 7:18:16 AM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: maggief
The White House or State Department did not make those changes

The White House IS the COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!

The State Department is in charge of Diplomats and their safety and answers to the COMMANDER IN CHIEF!

The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) is the United States government official – subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President – required by the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 to:
- Serve as principal advisor to the President, the National Security Council, and the Homeland Security Council about intelligence matters related to national security;
- Serve as head of the sixteen-member Intelligence Community; and
- Direct and oversee the National Intelligence Program.



More stink coming out of CBS to lay blame on any and all but the President.
10 posted on 11/20/2012 7:21:39 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: weston

This is the old Rope-a-dope do it enough and
after a while it’s so confusing no one can
pin it down.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 7:23:03 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: maggief

Who here really thinks they’re not going to get away with this?


12 posted on 11/20/2012 7:25:27 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: maggief

So the CIA and DNI sat there and watched the President and the Sec of State (Hillary Clinton) go out and make a commercial and go to the UN and blame a video on Youtube?

If Obama and Hillary don’t have a better system than that, then I am really skeptical of anything they tell me in the future. I thought they were both smart, but evidently they are easily misled. Even to the point of misinforming the country and world about a major security issue. And right before an election too.
Makes me nervous that Hillary is out there in the Mid east
talking to anyone if she is out of the loop that much of what is really going on. We should nickname her “Sleepy” Clinton. Because evidently she was asleep for two weeks when this occured.

CBS IS the spokesperson for the Obama Whitehouse. They don’t need to say that someone else is a spokesperson. They sit and get their stories written by this administration and everybody knows that!

Who wrote this article CBS? Jay Carney?


13 posted on 11/20/2012 7:26:32 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: Eagle of Liberty

There is no distinction between the WH and the Obama Administration, except with MSM.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 7:27:33 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

The Obama lapdog puppy that wrote the headline must not have read the story. The story bears little resemblance to the headline. A more appropriate headline would be: “Obama Administration Rewrote Benghazi Story”


15 posted on 11/20/2012 7:28:55 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: maggief

Who cares what group was responsible? The point was not to peg a specific group but to acknowledge that it was an organized attack and not some random protest over a video that no one had seen. This is stupid.

As for Clapper, duh! He is the one who told Petraeus to resign due to an extramarital affair. How many CIA directors in the past have had extramarital affairs? I would wager that more were guilty than not guilty.

Now can we determine where the video nonsense came from because that story was cooked up before 9/11 and before the crazies started burning flags in Egypt? Who created this excuse, and why did the administration take away the security from Libya without replacing them? Why did the administration set up the ambassador to die or be taken hostage?


16 posted on 11/20/2012 7:31:39 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Army Air Corps

“We are now in a p*ssing contest between the WH and two agencies.”

The objective of which is to confuse and bore the public in order to destroy any lingering interest in this matter.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 7:32:08 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: maggief

Just who was it at the DNI who cut our the reference to al-qaeda. who ever it was still had to get POTUS to approve it. My take


18 posted on 11/20/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: petitfour

I was wondering why CBS,NBC, AP, Reuters, MSNBC CNN none of them have even asked about the old guy who is in jail for a year. Can he receive visitors? If so how come none of them have been out there to ask him about his video?

They all sit there looking hip and sipping on their $5 Starbuck Latte waiting for the Whitehouse to hand them the next story that they have written for them. pitiful.

Old David Gregory was getting pretty emotional Sunday when it looked like he wasn’t selling the Whitehouse B.S. to the Congressman. He almost had a hissie fit right there on the spot.


19 posted on 11/20/2012 7:40:14 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: maggief
ABSOLUTELY NIXONIAN. The end for obama will have started in Benghazi.

LLS

20 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:29 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: maggief

“Office of the Director of National Intelligence”????? WHO?


21 posted on 11/20/2012 7:44:50 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Ronald_Magnus

They already got away with it.

We are going to pay the price for this. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but having accepted this and re-electing this man is going to be the end of America.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 7:46:32 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Don’t bet on it. During Nixon’s time, there were enough Democrats with integrity to advise him he needed to step down for the good of the country. Not the case now.

These days, as I’ve said before, for Democrats to bring down a fellow Democrat, no amount of evidence is sufficient. For them to bring down a Republican, no amount of evidence is required.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 7:47:35 AM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: petitfour
As for Clapper, duh! He is the one who told Petraeus to resign due to an extramarital affair

Yes, and there was a story the other day that Clapper and Petraeus had disagreements a few days before Petraeus' resignation over the CIA taking the blame.

Makes sense that Clapper was responsible for removing the info.

24 posted on 11/20/2012 7:51:45 AM PST by what's up
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To: william clark
Washington and Americans that followed him were living in much more dangerous times and were sacrificing everything for our future. I will NEVER give up or lay down... I will honor those great men with my loyalty to America as Founded. To do otherwise is just to lay down and surrender. I would rather die with my boots on.

LLS

25 posted on 11/20/2012 7:52:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: william clark

Whitehouse Press= Sycophants.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 7:52:40 AM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; MestaMachine

“”The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.” DNI spokesman Shawn Turner tells CBS News.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/office-of-the-director-of-national-intelligence-tries-to-explain-evolving-intelligence-on-benghazi/

Sep 28, 2012

First, Turner says, in the immediate aftermath of the attack, which resulted in the deaths of four Americans including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, “there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving.”

But intelligence came in that caused officials to revise their “initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists,” Turner writes. “It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. However, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to al-Qa’ida. We continue to make progress, but there remain many unanswered questions. As more information becomes available our analysis will continue to evolve and we will obtain a more complete understanding of the circumstances surrounding the terrorist attack.”


27 posted on 11/20/2012 7:53:10 AM PST by maggief
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The DNI was created in 2004 because of concerns that the CIA hadn’t cooperated with other security agencies in the federal government prior to 9-11. The DNI is supposed to coordinate with the CIA, military, FBI, State and White House, but it means that the Director of the CIA no longer has a direct pipeline to the President. This is enabling the President to claim deniability because he can now blame the communication problems on the DNI, while letting the CIA claim that it did its job. But there is still no explanation as to why the DNI or CIA would let the White House and State spin the video explanation when there doesn’t appear to be any report from the CIA or DNI blaming the video.


28 posted on 11/20/2012 7:54:50 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...

We can’t keep calling this spin. It has gone far beyond that. Spin is when you take a smidgeon of truth and garnish it. There is no truth in this.

Ping.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 7:57:09 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: maggief
"The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack." DNI spokesman Shawn Turner tells CBS News. That information was shared at a classified level -- which Rice, as a member of President Obama's cabinet, would have been privy to.

So in other words she was blatantly lying about the film (which we already knew).

30 posted on 11/20/2012 7:58:22 AM PST by what's up
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To: maggief
Even if this new improved version of events were to be believed and the term "al Qaeda" was removed, who then inserted the "spontaneous mob" lie?

That story was a complete fabrication. Who was the fabricator?

Also, who made the fatal decision to let the Ambassador and his men hang out to dry?

31 posted on 11/20/2012 8:05:22 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST
Also, who made the fatal decision to let the Ambassador and his men hang out to dry?

There you have it.

32 posted on 11/20/2012 8:12:01 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (If you repeat a lie enough--it is not true--it is just propaganda.)
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To: maggief

Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI)>>>>>

That pos James Clapper runs it. He is beyond contempt and and obvious Obama stooge for years. He is inept, senile ,out of the loop. A figurehead

This story blaming him and his agency? Who knows. He is willing to become the fall guy.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 8:16:18 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: william clark; Noumenon
These days, as I've said before, for Democrats to bring down a fellow Democrat, no amount of evidence is sufficient. For them to bring down a Republican, no amount of evidence is required.

Just so. We are at the opening stages of civil war. Having demonized us the left will proceed to the next stage.

Nearly a century ago at the start of the Russian civil war and the beginning of the Red Terror, Martins Latsis, the senior official in the CHEKA, (Extraordinary Commission, or the first Soviet political police) was also the theoretician of the Red Terror, stated that Bolsheviks, "are not carrying out war against individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. We are not looking for evidence or witnesses to reveal deeds or words against the Soviet power. The first question we ask is to what class does he belong, what are his origins, upbringing, education or profession? These questions define the fate of the accused. This is the essence of the Red Terror."

The table has been set, increased oppressive regulations instituted by damn near every cabinet bureaucracy equipped with SWAT teams provide the grounds to ensnare any targeted citizenry.

It will happen sooner than anyone anticipates. Have doubts? Review history to see how fast it came to full and bloody bloom in eras without modern communications.

34 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:41 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: maggief
To hell with the "who changed the CIA document". I want to know "Who Denied requests for help, in the previous months", "WHO gave the STAND DOWN order".....

IOW: WHO ORDERED THE DEATHS OF 4 DEAD AMERICANS?

That and nothing more is of interest to me. When is this going to be investigated??

Oh, wait a minute: could it be after the inaguration of the Supreme Leader??

35 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:53 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Covenantor

Then of course, Latsis eventually faced the firing squad himself.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 8:30:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


37 posted on 11/20/2012 8:31:31 AM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: maggief
Wonderful! CBS has now become the “Benghazi Bob” of this entire debacle. Could their announcers even keep a straight face trying to pass this one off? If one is to believe this, then the Resident and his staff were completely in the dark even WHILE making crucial decisions and for days afterward due to some incompetent, nameless clown far down the food chain? Who just HAPPENED to know about a video clip nobody else had seen? The Obama administration is excused because somebody he hired can't accomplish their job? The buck stops with Obama no matter what. Hillary needs to resign in disgrace because she was responsible for safety and she FAILED to protect her people, even with numerous warnings. And RICE is GUILTY of either lying or else deceiving! It makes no difference; she has NO credibility and cannot continue in office, much less take Hillary's place. I smell the rot of treason, and it's the whole head of the rotten administration!
38 posted on 11/20/2012 8:36:46 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: maggief

Two things...

First, four Americans are dead, including an ambassador and no one is being held responsible. There was time to intervene and nothing was done. Again, no one is being held responsible. For weeks leading up to the election the President and his principal secretaries lied to the public about what had happened and why. (We still don’t know why but we know it was not the film). The MSM doesn’t care and no elected Democrats care so no one will be held responsible for these lies either.

Second, nothing has been done about this atrocity. Hot air about bringing the killers to justice was spewed but it has been nothing but talk. So... How long will it be till these guys do it again? Will anyone be held responsible when they do it again?


39 posted on 11/20/2012 8:43:21 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: william clark
These days, as I’ve said before, for Democrats to bring down a fellow Democrat, no amount of evidence is sufficient. For them to bring down a Republican, no amount of evidence is required.

Outstanding post. I'm borrowing that! That's tagline/bumpersticker worthy!

Regards,

TS

40 posted on 11/20/2012 8:49:36 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Covenantor

Thou hast said it. Our job, as I see it, is to make the exercise of tyranny both expensive and fatal to its practitioners.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 8:54:03 AM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: maggief
CBS News has learned that ...

CBS didn't 'learn' from the air - or from old fashioned digging - they 'learned that' from a democrat operative who called them up on the phone and told them. CBS does the equivalent of rewriting Press Releases from the White House. There is absolutely NO REASON to trust them.

42 posted on 11/20/2012 8:56:11 AM PST by GOPJ (The economy is so bad MSNBC had to lay off 300 Obama spokesmen - Leno)
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To: Noumenon
Good afternoon.

Our job, as I see it, is to make the exercise of tyranny both expensive and fatal to its practitioners.

That would make a great tag line.

5.56mm

43 posted on 11/20/2012 9:06:04 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: V_TWIN
“CBS Sources”

Sorry, I’ll wait for a more trusted source.

CBS commits random acts of journalism on occasion. I believe they're the major org with the most (correct) coverage of Fast & Furious due to the work of one of their reporters.

44 posted on 11/20/2012 9:10:07 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: maggief
Today's squirrel chase....
45 posted on 11/20/2012 9:10:21 AM PST by PogySailor (Barack Obama just won the right to be the Captain of the Titanic)
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To: annieokie

absolutely.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 9:17:55 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: RedEyeJack

“The MSM doesn’t care and no elected Democrats care so no one will be held responsible for these lies either.”

We will probably be entertained with more of Issa’a kabuki theater hearings like Fast ans Furious.

Clapper could get tossed, but no one at the top (who are the ones really responsible) will be held accountable, like you said.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 9:47:10 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Issa’a = Issa’s

ans = and


48 posted on 11/20/2012 9:50:22 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer

4. Who turned down the Ambassador’s request for more security?
5. Who turned down the request for a DC-3?
6. Who pulled the security team they did have?


49 posted on 11/20/2012 11:13:16 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Where’s Brennan now, it smells like him.

(see passports)


50 posted on 11/20/2012 11:57:28 AM PST by AliVeritas (God's will be done. Pray, Pray, Pray, Penance, Penance, Penance.)
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