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NYPD searching for man in shopkeeper shootings
Associated Press ^ | 20 NOV 2012 | COLLEEN LONG

Posted on 11/20/2012 3:11:07 AM PST by BCW

NEW YORK (AP) — Detectives on Monday searched for a balding, middle-aged man seen wearing an overcoat and carrying a duffel bag after a shopkeeper was shot dead as investigators tried to figure out whether a violent armed robber or a serial killer had slain three business owners in the past four months.

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After the latest killing, detectives discovered the same gun was used in the fatal shootings of two other shopkeepers when ballistics matched the .22-caliber gun shell casings on all three. On July 6, Mohamed Gebeli, 65, an Egyptian immigrant and a Muslim, was found shot in the back of his shop, Valentino Fashion Inc. On Aug. 6, Isaac Kadare, 59, also Egyptian but Jewish, was shot in the head in his store, Amazing 99 Cent Deal.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: banglist
Sounds like someone is cleaning house...more planned than random...especially as the Gaza strip is heating up...
1 posted on 11/20/2012 3:11:28 AM PST by BCW
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To: BCW

I think they’re making connections where there aren’t any. Almost all of these little stores are owned by ME immigrants (Jewish, Muslim or Christian) or Pakistanis, and I doubt that the killer knows their religions. The shops are open late and these shopkeepers usually work alone and don’t have surveillance cameras, so they’re probably victims of opportunity. It does sound like there’s something weird to the number part of it, though.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 3:27:08 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

If your theory is right the police may want to check the videos of businesses that do have cameras since the killer would case the place first.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 3:38:37 AM PST by MCF
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To: BCW

Three points on a map will always make a triangle if they are not paralell.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 3:43:19 AM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: livius
OWS killer getting rid of business owners?
5 posted on 11/20/2012 3:44:16 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: LukeL

Come on Luke,
Ya need to get a tin foil hat man


6 posted on 11/20/2012 3:50:14 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: MCF

He has been casing the places, and from nearby videos, they’ve turned up a guy with a duffel bag at two of the places (which aren’t near each other). He obviously knows at what time the store is likely to be empty, etc.

The first drawing they released showed a black guy, but the man in the video appears to be white and possibly, in my opinion, middle eastern himself, possibly a Turk or an Egyptian. However, he may have nothing to do with it and could possibly be a supplier or somebody who had a reason for being at these stores.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 4:09:13 AM PST by livius
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To: BCW

What a surprise. Do an image search of the victims names and what do you find? They’re all “white” guys.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 4:13:34 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: LukeL
Three points on a map will always make a triangle if they are not paralell.

After future killings the police will discover that the connected points of the killings will form a polygram.

Sinister, I tell ya.

9 posted on 11/20/2012 4:43:18 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: BCW

It looks like “we” now can mention Muslims, but only when they’re the victims, not the perps.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 5:03:33 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: BCW

Where’s Sheriff Moose when you really need him?


11 posted on 11/20/2012 5:15:04 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: BCW
Searching for a pattern: The state of today's PC criminology and journalism:

First it's some BS about numerology - without any basis in probability. Next it's some BS about 3 points forming a triangle - without any basis in geometry.

Anything but the in your face pattern FReepers who checked the photos of victims and the sketch of the killer knew and posted at once.

We will not be seeing Sharpton/Jackson or be hearing from Obama!

12 posted on 11/20/2012 5:18:39 AM PST by drpix
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To: drpix

I think it is Ed Rendell. He’s been hiding recently his head is triangular and he KNOWS numbers (when he’ counting his casino cash).


13 posted on 11/20/2012 5:23:39 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: drpix

Might be a militant Moslem exacting his own revenge on those he has deemed offensive to Islam...be it undeserving Moslems not adhering to the faith and Jewish/Christian shop owners supporting Israel...???


14 posted on 11/20/2012 5:40:55 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: drpix

Remember how for months the media just knew the DC sniper was a white guy probably ex military gone of the deep end? Even the police suspected that through profiling......

We all know how that turned out and how WRONG they all were.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 5:41:12 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: BCW
The sketch of the suspect was dark skinned, when Muslims come in every color. The 3 victims were all white, when unfaithful Muslims, Christians and even Jews come in every color.

Noting a pattern is not making a conclusion, but if cops and journalists are advancing a pattern to these killings it should be an actual and not BS one.

16 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:58 AM PST by drpix
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To: BCW

No, from my observations of stores in that area and
in my neighborhood, he’s targeting sole proprietors
without other staff present.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 9:12:57 AM PST by cycjec
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To: cycjec

so - more or less, it’s not about religion or ethnic background - any connection to the Middle East at all - it’s just shop owners that are alone and he’s targeting them because theirs no witnesses?


18 posted on 11/20/2012 11:52:39 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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19 posted on 11/20/2012 4:22:05 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: BCW

That was my surmise. There’s a *WHOLE LOT* of shopkeepers
of Middle Eastern origins of every kind in Brooklyn. I
haven’t seeen anything since then suggesting other than
opportunism. I *might* be wrong.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 7:04:37 PM PST by cycjec
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To: cycjec

With the economic climate as it is - easy prey is easy pickings...opportunism may become the rule of the day in the near future! That guy may be the tip of the iceberg then...


21 posted on 12/03/2012 3:20:36 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW

Bad as it sounds, you may be right. Various news sites
report that the person charged is one Salvatore Perron,
63 years old, of Staten Island. Not sure how the NYPD
tracked him down.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 10:00:30 PM PST by cycjec
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To: BCW

Update: you were right in your surmise and I was wrong
in my first and later reply. “John Doe Duffel Bag” (am
not giving his name bc of the others who share it). is
a delusional nut-case, and it may well be that he targeted
his victims because of perceived ethnicity. (although
two at least religions are represented). He also was known,
albeit casually to his victims; another of his sales route
clients recognized him. He has several arrests in his past.
Despite that, he can be “personable.” I was really wondering
how the victims were taken off guard by the sort of person
I was incorrectly surmising to be the perpetrator.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 11:13:50 PM PST by cycjec
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To: cycjec

Actually you were correct - it wasn’t a directed hit by a nation state - a crazy person who visited these people - and he folded in their ethnicity into the equation - but as you’ve stated - he was targeting them because they were easy to target - I would say location has to be a big factor in that as well...

I do wonder, however, where or who, taught him about these “perceived ethnic” factors...hoping or leading him to act the way he did...kinda like a “social bomb”...or maybe that’s just going to far into the analysis???


24 posted on 12/06/2012 4:52:47 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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