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U.S. sends warships near Israel in case evacuation needed
cnn ^ | 11/19/12 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 11/19/2012 5:22:18 PM PST by Nachum

Three U.S. Navy amphibious warships are returning to the eastern Mediterranean to remain on standby in the event they are needed to assist Americans leaving Israel in the coming days, according to two U.S. officials.

The officials stressed an evacuation remains an extremely remote possibility and the Obama administration is not currently planning for one. Americans who wish to leave the region now are able to do so using commercial airlines.

But the decision to send the ships even if the event is such a remote contingency underscores the growing concern about where the Israel-Gaza conflict could be headed.

"This is due diligence. It is better to be prepared should there be a need," one official said Monday. Both officials said the ships would be used only for assisting Americans and not for any combat role.

The most immediate impact will be on the ships' crews and the estimated 2,500 Marines on board. They had been scheduled to return to Norfolk, Virginia, just after Thanksgiving; their homecoming will now be delayed several days depending on events, the officials said.

The ships involved are the USS Iwo Jima, the USS New York and the USS Gunston Hall. At the end of last week the ships were west of Gibraltar, before the decision was made to turn them around and send them back to the eastern Mediterranean, where they will remain for now.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
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Can anyone remember another president doing this?
1 posted on 11/19/2012 5:22:29 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 11/19/2012 5:23:57 PM PST by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

“See, I care about our people. Now knock off this Benghazi stuff.”

What a poser...


3 posted on 11/19/2012 5:26:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Nachum

I got my US/Israel Fight Against Terrorism bumper sticker on my vehicle over the weekend —

Invade and destroy those miserable animals - push them back into Egypt or the sea!

GO ISRAEL!!! KICK THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF THOSE MUZZIES!!!


4 posted on 11/19/2012 5:28:39 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Nachum

Will the American Citizens have to show ID? Or will all the Hamas leaders be the first on board as the Israels drive them into the sea?


5 posted on 11/19/2012 5:30:58 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Nachum
I heard from a private pilot yesterday (in DC) in visiting with another pilot that was flying an "empty 777 to Amman, Jordan!"

Flight had with already left or was leavIng ASAP.

6 posted on 11/19/2012 5:34:50 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflowerw)
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To: Nachum
The officials stressed an evacuation remains an extremely remote possibility and the Obama administration is not currently planning for one.

... Which is why we moved three ships into the area and made a big announcement that we were fully prepared to evacuate.

7 posted on 11/19/2012 5:35:13 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think this has happened before. Must be a Hussein feely good ploy. I would think any concerned Americans are on planes out of there. Why three ships? That many? Maybe to save Hamas terrorists, they are Muslim brothers after all.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 5:49:19 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Nachum

I wonder if anyone here knows what happens with the tour groups that are in Isael?

I ask this because I had a friend that returned one day before the TSHTF.

She said there are busloads of tourists arriving. Surely thay can’t allow these folks to visit their religious sites.


9 posted on 11/19/2012 5:52:03 PM PST by berdie
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To: berdie

Isael=Israel


10 posted on 11/19/2012 5:53:11 PM PST by berdie
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To: Nachum

Evacuating Hamas, Hezzbollah, PLO and Syrian leaders, right?
Will they be relocated to the Bahamas like the terrorists from Gitmo?

Out of Guantánamo, Uighurs Bask in Bermuda
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/world/americas/15uighur.html?pagewanted=all


11 posted on 11/19/2012 5:53:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 6:02:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Nachum

No , but we’ve never had a muslim commander in chief before


13 posted on 11/19/2012 6:02:46 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Nachum

this idiot president embarrasses me - he need a trip to the woodshed

We should have war ships there in Israel’s defense being “in their face” with face with anybody that thinks they want some.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 6:03:29 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - ^_^)
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To: Nachum
Back in 1970, Nixon sent a big naval fleet towards Syria causing an invasion tank column heading into Jordan to turn around in its tracks back when Jordan was putting down a Palestinian uprising and Syria was intending to interfere.

http://www.ndu.edu/press/lib/images/jfq-55/25.pdf

15 posted on 11/19/2012 6:05:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from runway mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Nachum
Evacuation of US citizens from Israel? Only in event of an Iranian missile barrage launched in retaliation for an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear sites, I would think.
16 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:34 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from runway mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Nachum

Oh, so we do have ships in the Mediterranean still!?! Just not to help Americans being killed by al Qaeda.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 6:10:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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IT'S GO TIME!

18 posted on 11/19/2012 6:21:15 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: zerosix

That’s funny, Obama wasn’t fully prepared on September 11, 2011.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 6:26:10 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Nachum

If the evil Odumbo ordered our troops to attack Israel, what would they do?


20 posted on 11/19/2012 6:35:04 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta

No question that the ships are an implied threat.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 6:44:22 PM PST by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Well, if the bad guys are going to do anything, they’ll wait until 5pm Washington time because after that Obama puts on his Buzz Lightyear jammies and goes to bed.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 7:46:30 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Nachum

Veiled threat to Bibi? What the heck!


23 posted on 11/19/2012 7:56:59 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: zerosix

That would be the next step in preparing for an evacuation of non-essential personnel (NEO); charter flights, arranged by the State Department. If you report is accurate—and I don’t have any reason to doubt you—it looks like this NEO is moving from possible, to probable.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 8:09:52 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Nachum

What sane American would evacuate to a destroyer instead of a comfy Boeing or even a cruise ship?

No way in hell are these ships there to assist evacuations, no they are under orders from Obama to paint Israeli targets with their radar and to be intimidation.

They had best be careful, America lost a warship some years ago...I’m just saying that I would support Israel all the way on this and those captains should consider where their patriotic duty must lead them.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 8:17:52 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Cicil War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

My thinking after listening to this pilot was first that this would be for important U.S. personnell in or around Jordan then also, for first family of Jordan as the Arab Spring is now threatening the “monarchy” of Jordan.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 8:53:27 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflowerw)
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To: berdie

I was to be one of these tourists in the next few weeks until I cancelled due to upcoming violence, even massive violence.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 8:55:24 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflowerw)
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To: zerosix

As much as I loved the retelling of her trip and would love to see all the things she saw (with an excellent tour guide I might add)...that part of the world is pretty iffy.

I wonder if the tours reschedule when something like this happens. Probably not.

You most likely made a good choice in cancelling. Now, back when I was ten feet tall and bullet proof and could run like the wind...I wouldn’t think twice. :)


28 posted on 11/19/2012 9:37:45 PM PST by berdie
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To: Seizethecarp

Exactly the point that needs to be made here. Why would the US send ships to evacuate Americans from Israel? Only if there is going to be an attack on Israel. An invasion by Arab armies does not seem imminent so what could it be then? Missiles from Hezbollah and Iran in addition to the ones from Hamas? Is there something that the White House is hoping for that Israel should be preparing against?


29 posted on 11/19/2012 9:56:57 PM PST by tupac
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To: Eye of Unk
...they are under orders from Obama to paint Israeli targets with their radar and to be intimidation.

And to use American citizens as human shields.

30 posted on 11/19/2012 10:10:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: tupac
Something is up.

Maybe intelligence pointing to a large transfer of Al Quds forces from Iran to Syria to prop up Assad has been discovered to be in the works?

Israel could not tolerate that and a war between Syria and Israel could break out bringing Syrian chem-bio weapons into play (not to mention likely Saddam weapons inventory).

The US would definitely have to get US citizens out then and there are lots of dual US-Israeli citizens.

Note the Der Speigel story indicating that Turkey is “expected” to imminently request Patriot missile batteries to be transferred from NATO inventory to its border with Syria and that German troops may be required to man them.

Things look to be getting hotter during the “end game” for the Assad Regime in Syria!

31 posted on 11/19/2012 10:18:06 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from runway mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

The odd thing is IIRC, Obama and/or Hillary took their time with evacuating people from one of the Arab Spring countries. I remember at the time they waited longer than seemed prudent- I think it was Egypt. Now, they do this? Either they know something is coming very soon, or there is a political reason. Probably good time to fill up gas tank.


32 posted on 11/19/2012 10:19:33 PM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: Nachum

Just a little transportation, in case it’s needed.

With 2500 Marines aboard.

*cough*


33 posted on 11/19/2012 10:24:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


34 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:32 PM PST by rwh
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


35 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:35 PM PST by rwh
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:35 PM PST by rwh
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


37 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:41 PM PST by rwh
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


38 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:41 PM PST by rwh
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To: berdie

I have a friend that works with the same company as I do and he returned robust awl today. He said his flight was delayed from landing but is in Haifa now. We work for a Fortune 500 oilfield service company and they are anything but lax about security.


39 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:43 PM PST by rwh
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To: Nachum
No question that the ships are an implied threat.

Yes indeed. But the question is, who is he threatening?

40 posted on 11/19/2012 10:48:36 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Oh, that's great! I can see the Palestinians with US citizenship struggling to get aboard ahead of the American Israelis with their citizenship! Fist fights over who gets on the ship.
41 posted on 11/19/2012 10:51:59 PM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Seizethecarp
In September 1970 (later PLO group named “Black September which carried out Munich massacre) Syria threatened to topple King Hussein of Jordan along with Yassir Arafart. The Israelis warned the Syrians that they would intervene on the King's behalf. I did not know that Nixon also sent this ship. Interesting...
42 posted on 11/19/2012 10:54:43 PM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Nachum
Can anyone remember another president doing this?

When I was in the Navy, been retired 10 years now we did a couple Noncombatant Evacuation Operations (NEO).

We'd sit off the coast of say a US Embassy, over the horizon away from prying eyes and wait get the word if it was a go or no go.

But it was never announced publically until after the fact.

43 posted on 11/19/2012 11:06:19 PM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Its funny how when I see my comments sent back at how bad I am forming sentences, I meant being intimidated.

American human shields on US ships? So that they can stage an attack and say it was another Israeli sub trying to sink them?

Trying to repeat history? That could work and Obammy being Moslem trained would go for it in a heartbeat, well maybe quicker since he has no heart.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 12:31:22 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Cicil War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Eye of Unk
American human shields on US ships? So that they can stage an attack and say it was another Israeli sub trying to sink them?

That or go on painting with the radar undisturbed. Either is bad for Israel, a borderline act of war.

That could work and Obammy being Moslem trained would go for it in a heartbeat, well maybe quicker since he has no heart.

Yup. Sometimes the obvious answer is rejected because it is so disgusting and outrageous. Methinks we'd better get used to it.

45 posted on 11/20/2012 12:40:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Nachum

Warships aren’t for evacuation.

We’re I in Israel, I’d stay put and help fight.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 12:46:11 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Eye of Unk
One other thought,

That could work and Obammy being Moslem trained would go for it in a heartbeat, well maybe quicker since he has no heart.

Those "human shields" would almost all Jews or Jewish sympathizers. Surely the Iranians would LOVE to set up a story that "the Jooos did it." Or could anybody be so vile as to sink our own boat for propaganda purposes? I shudder to think it, but with Zero, who knows what he'd do? He did leave four of our guys to die just for cover.

47 posted on 11/20/2012 12:51:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

If the evil Odumbo ordered our troops to attack Israel, what would they do?

They would do what the Commander in Chief directs. For 3 years, Obama will be the one to direct the military. Thankfully, he will not do this. I don’t believe the military would go against the orders.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 2:45:41 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: onyx

They can serve the purpose of evacuation. In 2006 the USS Iwo Jima (one of the ships now going there) evacuated US citizens from Lebanon. USS Iwo Jima is part of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit. Yes they do evacuations. I’d rather be evacuated by a warship than anything else,
wouldn’t you?


49 posted on 11/20/2012 2:50:20 AM PST by Ymani Cricket ("It is my experience that Senators focus only on pleasing those who fund their campaigns" Obi-Wan)
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To: Seizethecarp
"Israel could not tolerate that and a war between Syria and Israel could break out bringing Syrian chem-bio weapons into play (not to mention likely Saddam weapons inventory)."

I wouldn't put it past Obama to have had the Benghazi operation ship some of Qaddafi's chemical weapons to the Syrian opposition to stage an incident that could be blamed on Assad.

50 posted on 11/20/2012 3:28:42 AM PST by Truth29
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