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Is Rush Limbaugh’s Country Gone? (NY Slimes Super Barf Alert)
NY Times ^ | November 18, 2012, 11:14 pm | By THOMAS B. EDSALL

Posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:19 PM PST by drewh

The conservative talk show host, who had been an upbeat, if initially doubtful, Romney supporter throughout the campaign, was on a post-election downer:

In a country of children where the option is Santa Claus or work, what wins? And say what you want, but Romney did offer a vision of traditional America. In his way, he put forth a great vision of traditional America, and it was rejected. It was rejected in favor of a guy who thinks that those who are working aren’t doing enough to help those who aren’t. And that resonated.

Limbaugh echoed a Republican theme that was voiced before and after the election: Barack Obama has unleashed a coalition of Americans “who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it — that that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them” — as Mitt Romney put it in his notorious commentary on the 47 percent.

You can find this message almost everywhere on the right side of the spectrum. The Heritage Foundation, for example, annually calculates an “Index of Dependence on Government,” which grows every year:

Today, more people than ever before depend on the federal government for housing, food, income, student aid, or other assistance once considered to be the responsibility of individuals, families, neighborhoods, and churches. The United States reached another milestone in 2010: For the first time in history, half the population pays no federal income taxes. It is the conjunction of these two trends—higher spending on dependence-creating programs, and an ever-shrinking number of taxpayers who pay for these programs—that concerns those interested in the fate of the American form of government.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; antiamericanism; cultureofcorruption; ussa

1 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:23 PM PST by drewh
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To: everyone

We sure need some here.
FReepathon Day 50!

2 posted on 11/19/2012 1:08:39 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: drewh

Just so Mr. Edsall knows: We’re still here a**hole, we plan to do more than stick around. Mark Levin has spelled it out very well.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 1:14:38 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: drewh
Is Rush Limbaugh's country gone?

Well, let's analyze the question.

What is Rush Limbaugh's country?

Hmmmm...America.

Then the answer is: plausibly.

4 posted on 11/19/2012 1:15:16 PM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: drewh

Here in Indiana we elected a Tea Party backed governor and supermajority Republicans for state Senate and House. Also passed RTW in the last session.

So we’re not gone for sure.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 1:17:30 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: drewh

“In broader terms, the political confrontation pits taxpayers, who now form the core of the center-right coalition, against tax consumers who form the core of the center-left. According to the Tax Policy Center, 46.4 percent of all tax filers had no federal income tax liability in 2011...”

“In effect, the 21st century version of class conflict sets the stage for an exceptionally bitter face-off between the left and the right in Congress.”

Yes, indeed.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 1:18:18 PM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: drewh
To all of you gloating liberals, this truth applies even to atheists:

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
-Proverbs 16:18


7 posted on 11/19/2012 1:24:38 PM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: drewh

If the New York Times had eyes and hands, you could just imagine what they would doing right now at the thought that Rush Limbaugh’s nation was gone.

Smiling beedy eyes and hand wringing at the delicious thought that our Founding Father’s ideology and principles had been discredited for all time.

If Rush’s nation is gone, then another shall arise to replace it.

And in the new iteration, people like the New York Times staff will be hauled outside their building, lined up against a wall, and shot dead.

Some people don’t view the enemies of their nation with all the tolerance (as if) the Marxists always seem to show before think their time has arrived.

Afterwards, the Marxists do this very thing to all the good people left.

Marxists, we know what your policies always result in.

And once you prove it again here, I pity you knowing what people around this planet will do with you when they get their hands on you.

How many hundreds of millions will die this time, to prove this point yet again? Too bad it didn’t start with you.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 1:25:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: drewh

If the New York Times had eyes and hands, you could just imagine what they would doing right now at the thought that Rush Limbaugh’s nation was gone.

Smiling beedy eyes and hand wringing at the delicious thought that our Founding Father’s ideology and principles had been discredited for all time.

If Rush’s nation is gone, then another shall arise to replace it.

And in the new iteration, people like the New York Times staff will be hauled outside their building, lined up against a wall, and shot dead.

Some people don’t view the enemies of their nation with all the tolerance (as if) the Marxists always seem to show before think their time has arrived.

Afterwards, the Marxists do this very thing to all the good people left.

Marxists, we know what your policies always result in.

And once you prove it again here, I pity you knowing what people around this planet will do with you when they get their hands on you.

How many hundreds of millions will die this time, to prove this point yet again? Too bad it didn’t start with you, and save us and the rest of the planet all the misery.


9 posted on 11/19/2012 1:26:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: polymuser

“In effect, the 21st century version of class conflict sets the stage for an exceptionally bitter face-off between the left and the right in Congress.”
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I think that they don’t understand the true meaning of early 20th century class warfare in it’s practical application as conducted by its inventors.

Martins Latsis, the senior official in the CHEKA, (Extraordinary Commission, or the first Soviet political police) was also the theoretician of the Red Terror, stated that

Bolsheviks “are not carrying out war against individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. We are not looking for evidence or witnesses to reveal deeds or words against the Soviet power. The first question we ask is to what class does he belong, what are his origins, upbringing, education or profession? These questions define the fate of the accused. This is the essence of the Red Terror.”


10 posted on 11/19/2012 1:29:44 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: drewh

The nation isn’t gone. Rush’s influence isn’t what it used to be.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 1:31:24 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

yeah, it is. It’s the Rebublican establishment who continues to give away everything - everything.

What happened to “we don’t want Romney, he wil lose b/c he is a republican liberal and they don’t win elections and we don’t even need them to do so”?

Thi IS the group who lined up at Chick fil a over free speech.

How influential was he when he was more influential? We put all of our faith and attention into one radio announcer?

No.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 1:37:57 PM PST by stanne
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To: bioqubit

You didn’t read the article, did you?


13 posted on 11/19/2012 1:38:21 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: joesbucks

If you are younger than about 35 (and certainly younger than 30) then Rush is likely to have little influence on you.

Young people very rarely listen to the radio anymore. Particularly not AM radio.

They live, sleep, breathe online on things like Twitter (where Obama was able to effectively target them with one-on-one messages that “your personal favorite pet stupid issue will be my #1 priority”)

People under 30 are even ambivalent as to whether we should continue living under capitalism or not. On traditional marriage. On just about everything.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 1:39:27 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: stanne

Not that he isn’t still a force, but he is nowhere the force he used to be.


15 posted on 11/19/2012 1:44:11 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Buckeye McFrog

> ...Twitter (where Obama was able to effectively target them...

Mitt Romney does have presence on Twitter but for some reason didn’t use it as much as Team Obama.


16 posted on 11/19/2012 1:50:20 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep. They’re mostly tuned into their tunes and texts. Queer is fine. Politics is for old people. Socialism...whatever. Give Obama a chance, he’s cool. We’re all gonna get destroyed somehow anyway (from all the doom & gloom TV pieces).


17 posted on 11/19/2012 1:52:03 PM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: DoughtyOne
And in the new iteration, people like the New York Times staff will be hauled outside their building, lined up against a wall, and shot dead.

It depends on whether the "moderate" group or the "extremist" group gained power. The Russian royal family was originally spared in 1917. George C. Scott played the film role of moderate revolutionary. He was to let the Czar and family go to England. The extremists then threw the moderates out and the Russian royal family were shot dead. Malea, females and child.

Excuse this ramble, but the aerial view of Thomas Friedman's ( NYT) woodland mansion and even another house has been often shown. One could not for one moment, imagine Mr Friedman being allowed to remain "the lord of all he surveys". First he goes to the small house with swimming pool, if he is lucky. If the other extremists get in, he gets a trailer and lumps it.

I have not encountered such folly for years of people shilling for a sharing of the wealth. This and supporting the demagogues that preach it. Then expect to live in a vacuum, mansions, luxury condos, country retreats etc.

18 posted on 11/19/2012 1:52:51 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
Whoops! my bad. Should read:

Males, females and child

19 posted on 11/19/2012 1:54:40 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra

I agree. Redistribution is universal, until normalcy settles in, and then the party officials grant dispensations to the new privileged class, themselves.

I have a hard time with the concept of moderates here, because as I touched on earlier, folks will never follow the progression of these ideologies by choice.

As they fight the new system, more and more legislation is required, to force them to comply. And when they still don’t, physical force is required. The freedom the idiots think is their right today, to complain, dies up front. You don’t publicly complain under these systems, and if your neighbor is on the state payroll, you basically can’t open your yap other than to breath and eat. And as Socialist societies always evolve, breathing and eating also comes under control

You’re very existence is by permission from the state.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 2:04:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: nascarnation

Indiana has earned the right to be Southern state, ideologically speaking.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 2:05:02 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am a firm believer in karma and I do believe that what you typed will happen at some point in the future. Still, as you pointed out, I’m afraid innocents will suffer first.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 2:08:07 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: drewh

I read the comments and wanted to cry for our country.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 2:13:06 PM PST by saminfl
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To: Peter Libra

That was a crime what happened to the Tsars. Unfortunately, some of my ancestors and family fought on the Red side in Russia, my great-great grandfather, supposedly he knew Lenin. If I was around then with the mind I have now, I’d say, “sorry gramps, but I have to fight you because I fight for what it right.”


24 posted on 11/19/2012 2:13:56 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think many of the yung’uns will get it. Most of the ones I know do, at leastm ost of them say, “too many people think the world and society owes them everything.” As to things like same sex marriage, well, perhaps not as strong, but if they figure things out where we are all entitled to be left alone as long as we don’t harm others and we keep our stuff we work for, I would consider that a win.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 2:22:32 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: Nowhere Man

You a lot more hopeful than I. When I deal with the Thirty and Unders, not only am I struck by their total and complete ambivalence on any issue of real substance, but by the gaping holes in their knowledge base.

I am the product of a far-from-wealthy public school district and a fair to middlin’ public university. And a lot of these kids have expensive private school degrees. And I am continually blown away by how I appear to be WAAAAAAYYYYY better educated than any of them.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 2:42:08 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Most of what I deal with are working class although I’ve seen a few that come from wealthy backgrounds but most of them are pretty much the same where they think that no one owes them a living and they have to work for it. Hopefully for the rest, reality will step in and teach them a lesson.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 2:51:06 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: drewh
People should read this article. It provides abundant confirmation of Rush Limbaugh's point about the meaning of this election. This line is the bottom line:

In broader terms, the political confrontation [now underway] pits taxpayers, who now form the core of the center-right coalition, against tax consumers who form the core of the center-left.

No indication here of how the tax consumers are going to respond if the taxpayers resist. But they are not expected to resist: As Edsell rightly notes, they are a permanent and diminishing minority, quite unlikely to regain power in the increasingly socialist future.

28 posted on 11/19/2012 2:51:20 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Nowhere Man

“I am a firm believer in karma...”

Same here, and nations have karma too.

We are a different country; a different demographic for sure.

I found it interesting that the race for 2016 has already begun. Rubio is already in Iowa and Christie is on SNL.
I can’t ever imagine Christie as president, but his tactic is more effective to this new demographic than Rubio’s rubber chicken circuit.

The Marxist did most of his campaigning on the late night shows and the moronic afternoon programs like the View and Ellen. The guy is an idiot, but he knows his voters.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 4:40:37 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

The Marxist knew where his voters were.

At home, because they didn’t have a job.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 4:42:33 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation
We are a different country; a different demographic for sure.

Yeah, I know. I kept thinking this was like 1980, but we are not the same nation we were then. B-(

I'm tired out from the election, too busy looking for work to see 2016, I'm worried about 2013. I really don't care for Rubio or Christie, Rubio is being chosen because he panders to the Mexican and Hispanic voters, if we have to pander, forget it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of selling out. Christie, he sucked up to the Bamster so that's a no go with me. Care to join me so we can dig up Ronald Reagan and run him as "Zombie Reagan 2016?" B-) B-P
31 posted on 11/19/2012 5:32:47 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: A'elian' nation
The Marxist did most of his campaigning on the late night shows and the moronic afternoon programs like the View and Ellen. The guy is an idiot, but he knows his voters.

One more thing, welcome to reality TV and "Dance with the Stars" campaigning. If you go back, I doubt that the past Presidents like Hoover, Lincoln, Jackson, McKinley and so on would be elected now.

I often said that we need a "jerkass" in there that would tell the truth, be it in the House, Senate or Presidency and would not back down, cave in or apologize. WE need somebody like a Dr. House from "House." I'd love to be in that position where the libs and the press ask me questions and taunt me, I'd be telling them where to get off, the truth of our economy and so on as I walk out with a 1980's era Don Johnson beard and in my bathrobe. Well maybe not the bathrobe but we need somebody was a tough attitude that will not back down.
32 posted on 11/19/2012 5:41:19 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: Nowhere Man

I enjoyed your comments Nowhere Man, and I hope you find that job soon. Does this qualify you for an Obamaphone ?

As to your ‘jerkass’ suggestion, I’ve been posting more than half seriously that one of the coolest guys the republicans could put up for 2016 is Dennis Miller. He’s conservative, dishes it out, looks kinda latino, can jive talk, and knows his way around the glitterati and illuminati.

The republican party just isn’t hip, and, sad to say, you got to be hip in the brand new exciting dumbed down Amerika.

Yeah, I like the irascibility of Gregory House but he’s British. I always loved his un-PC quips. Check my tagline by the way.

Maybe we can get a curmudgeon like Pat Cadell to run. Also liked the way John Sununu handled the MSM idiots.

I still feel bad for Romney. Romney and Ryan was just what this country needed. Green eye shade guys.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 2:41:59 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Nowhere Man

One more suggestion. Allen West. He just conceded his House race, and the guy has nothing to do for the next few years.

The guy takes no prisoners. Would love to see him chewing up media guys who ask gotcha questions like ‘How old is the earth?’ to Rubio recently.

Still don’t think he can pull many votes from the dem plantation. The blacks are as bad off as they were 150 years ago - just with more attitude.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 2:55:32 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: stanne
We put all of our faith and attention into one radio announcer?

We? You got a mouse in your pocket? Who did? I certainly didn't......Why not accept the fact that Rush is merely a conservative talk show host who talks politics and tries to analyze current events rather than make him the cause celebre' for the outcome of this election cycle?

If you want to unjustly criticize him for this election then the least you can do is give him credit for the mid term 2010 election that resulted in over 600 new Republican seats across this country.........

But it's easier to dwell on dirt and put the blame on Rush isn't it?

35 posted on 11/20/2012 3:20:09 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ah, read my remark again, please.

Note the ? mark at the end of the sentende. My intention was to express just about exactly what you just did. Very well, I might add.

I pinged you to the response to tweak you for posting that zombie pice. Ew.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 4:16:03 PM PST by stanne
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To: DoughtyOne
ITERATION

I thought I was well aquainted with most words in the language. I had to go to the dictionary for that one. A well chosen word indeed.

37 posted on 11/21/2012 8:28:06 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: DoughtyOne
ITERATION

I thought I was well aquainted with most words in the language. I had to go to the dictionary for that one. A well chosen word indeed.

38 posted on 11/21/2012 8:29:11 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
Thanks Peter Libra.


Sorry to be responding this this much later...

39 posted on 11/24/2012 10:39:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: drewh

40 posted on 11/25/2012 7:24:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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