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Fargo Faints: Catholic Teen Refused Confirmation After Pro-Gay Marriage Photo Posted on Facebook
Newsbusters.org ^ | November 19, 2012 | Tim Graham

Posted on 11/19/2012 6:05:33 AM PST by servo1969

The media in Fargo, North Dakota were scandalized when a nearby Minnesota priest informed the parents of Lennon Cihak that he would not be confirmed in the local Catholic church after he posted a picture on Facebook supporting gay marriage (or a No vote on the traditional-marriage ballot initiative). Naturally, the liberal parents – who agree with their son – were shocked, shocked that the church would stand for something.

“You kind of know the Catholic beliefs, but I never thought they would deny somebody confirmation because you weren’t 100 percent. I guess that’s what shocks me,” Shana Cihak said. That’s exactly how the Fargo Forum sold it:

BARNESVILLE, Minn. – If you want to be a Catholic, you have to be 100 percent Catholic.

That’s the lesson one family here learned after their 17-year-old son was denied confirmation after the priest at the Assumption Church here found a pro same-sex marriage post on the teen’s Facebook.

Neither the priest nor the local bishop spoke to the newspaper (and reporters somehow aren't smart enough to figure out that "confirmation" is a sacrament where the believer says he or she accepts the entirety of the Catholic faith. It's not a graduation ceremony that you get to attend if you pass a test.)  So they felt free to just champion the liberal family, who agree with their son on the political question:

Lennon said fellow students in his confirmation class “liked” the photo on Facebook, but they were still allowed to be confirmed.

“I just thought it was wrong to single him out,” Shana said.

Her husband, Doug Cihak, agreed.

“(LaMoine) was talking about ‘God doesn’t believe in this.’ Well, God created Lennon,” said Doug, adding that he was baptized and raised in the same church.

But now the family is not allowed to participate in Communion there, Doug said, and he’s worried as to how far the sanctions will go, expressing concern about being able to be buried alongside his parents.

Still, Doug insists he’s not mad at LaMoine, calling him just a “messenger” of the church. The same could not be said for his wife, who said she doesn’t plan on returning to the church ever again, her son nodding in agreement.

“You should be able to go to a church for support, help,” Lennon said. “He pushed me away.”

But the ending was the biggest “facepalm” of all:

“But through it all, Lennon said his faith hasn’t faltered.

“I don’t want the church to be put down. I don’t want the Catholic religion to be put down,” he said. “It’s just the way the priest has things running. He’s so strict. He won’t loosen up about things.”

Naturally, Lennon wanted to "give peace a chance."

Liberals never seem to understand that when you join a church (or even when you are raised from birth in a church), it might take certain moral positions that do not change. They always expect churches to "loosen up about things." The local CBS affiliate WDAY also let the liberal argument dominate:

On Barnesville's Main Street, from the beauty salons to cafes, 17-year old Lennon Cihak was the talk of the town. A much respected teen-ager who is known for his work ethic and music. Ask his next door neighbors, the Raftevolds.

LoAnn Raftevold/Lennon's Neighbor: "The controversy started here at Assumption Catholic Church in Barnesville, where the priest refused confirmation after Lennon made a post on Facebook supporting a No vote on Minnesota's Gay Marriage Ammendment. The priest met with Lennon's parents, that not only supported their son, but shared his opinion. Even the Bishop at the Diocese in Crookston would not grant Lennon an appeal. Friends who liked Lennon's post on Facebook got confirmed, Lennon did not."

Lennon's family did not want to speak on camera about the story, but Grandma Cihak sure did.

Dianne Cihak goes to the same church. She's disappointed in her church. Proud of her grandson.

Dianne Cihak/grandmother: "It is a shock for the family. All baptized, married here at Assumption. Now the couple says they cannot even have communion here. Lennon's mother says she won't return. A church, she says, should be welcoming people, not pushing them away."

We contacted the diocese of Crookston for a comment on the story. The Bishop is out of town right now.

Some responsibility for this liberal tilt has to be put on the doorstep of the church and the Bishop's office. When you make a decision like this, it should be entirely expected that the secular liberal press will be highly agitated. It's a chance to preach the church's message. A "No comment" is no way to win hearts and minds.

As someone who teaches the sacrament of confirmation, if I had been in that parish, I would followed all the reporters around and made sure they balanced the story out. They clearly had no professional interest in a fair and balanced story.

(HT Daily Kos, which wrote, "Pope Ratzinger’s plan for a smaller, purer Church continues swimmingly.")


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: cafeteriacatholics; catholic; confirmation; culturewar; gay; marriage; moralabsolutes; moralrelativism
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It has always seemed to me that a few Catholics consider Catholicism to be some sort of club instead of a religion whose teachings they are to follow. As if they just need to get themselves elected the new Treasurer or Secretary of Whatever and then they can run things their way. And I was always under the impression that going through confirmation was basically imply that you were 'down' with all the churches teachings. Is that incorrect?

This is coming from someone who isn't Catholic, didn't grow up around Catholics and doesn't even know any Catholics now.

1 posted on 11/19/2012 6:05:42 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

equal marriage, SIGH, I wish these idiots would get a brain and use it., see my tagline.

You are not Catholic if you vote for killing babies,
homosexuality,

These idiots mainly in the north east have no idea what their faith is about.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 6:11:43 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: servo1969

maybe his parents need to get him help and understand what he wants or how he wants his sex is not healthy, nor natural and against his faith.

Think of where the colon is,

The prostate is devided by a thin film, if that is broken then all that feces get into there.

It’s not just eprverted sex it;s down right not healthy or natural


3 posted on 11/19/2012 6:13:52 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: servo1969

Facebook has consequences.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 6:16:11 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: manc

Polygamy is next. You think they care? Or draw the line? Destroy America at the basic building blocks.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 6:16:40 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: servo1969

“We fully support the Catholic Church, except for those pesky spiritual rules,” the Cihak family.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 6:17:46 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: servo1969

While I am not a Catholic, that church has the same right and duty to protect who they consider to be a properly vetted member. It is not honest to seek to be “confirmed” and yet to act contrary to the doctrines being taught.


7 posted on 11/19/2012 6:19:23 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: servo1969

A priest with backbone.Outstanding!


8 posted on 11/19/2012 6:20:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: servo1969

Since this kid is so “honest” and “respected throughout the community,” where did he get the stolen yard sign?


9 posted on 11/19/2012 6:20:22 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: servo1969
It has always seemed to me that a few Catholics consider Catholicism to be some sort of club instead of a religion whose teachings they are to follow.

It's more than "a few".A *lot* more.

10 posted on 11/19/2012 6:21:42 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: servo1969

So nice to see a Parish stand up for the beliefs of the Church. I wish more would.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 6:22:32 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: servo1969

This is news? All I can say is (as a teen would say), “well, duh!”


12 posted on 11/19/2012 6:24:05 AM PST by grimalkin (Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. Friedman)
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To: Gay State Conservative

#10

Is it? I honestly don’t know.


13 posted on 11/19/2012 6:25:55 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

All Christians know from scripture that homosexuality is wrong. The bibles says so several times. And, abortion is pure baby killing. Taking an innocent life with a beating heart and killing it is morally wrong. Some churches have turned a blind eye on biblical teaching in those areas for whatever reasons.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 6:26:11 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: jboot
where did he get the stolen yard sign?
"Cafeteria Catholics" pick and choose what they want to believe ... including the Ten Commandments.
15 posted on 11/19/2012 6:26:45 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: servo1969

Start kicking out the politicians.


16 posted on 11/19/2012 6:28:04 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: manc

maybe his parents need to get him help and understand what he wants or how he wants his sex is not healthy, nor natural and against his faith.

It doesn’t say he is gay. I think he is one of those straights who wants to be cool and “in”.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 6:31:38 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: servo1969

Oh, well—I bet they can get him confirmed by one of the women “priests” who still call themselves catholics. Welcome to the catholic buffet.


18 posted on 11/19/2012 6:33:13 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: servo1969

Hey, unless and until he repents of that wrong, they have a perfect right to tell him take a hike.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 6:36:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: oh8eleven
Cafeteria Catholics" pick and choose what they want to believe

Unfortunately, we have such cattle in Protestant churches, too. If people were intellectually honest, the Unitarian Universalists would be the fastest-growing denomination.

20 posted on 11/19/2012 6:36:58 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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