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To: livius
Since the Republicans and Conservatives are at odds and not united, we have no united front to plan, coordinate and execute those plans like the left is united and capable of doing. IF Protestant churches can bus in voters, the Catholic Church CAN do the very same, and not let perceived public opinion stop them from doing so. Match the left tactic for tactic..like Mark Levin, we need to use the left’s Rules for Radicals AGAINST THEM. Time to get smart and fight like they do.

Romney was the choice we had and we had to pull him over the finish line to win and stop the poisonous leftist policies that we would suffer under oboma, and to allow us to then work toward a Conservative candidate who COULD win in 2016, But, no, too many people who could have make it a win for Romney decided to NOT VOTE because of their principles and Romney was short the number of votes to win, though if those folks had understood the strategy of a win for Romney AND voted for Romney, Romney would have won. So, so much for principles and how you can lose a Presidential race because you can't see the bigger picture. NOW, we worry that we may never get to vote again, in view of the mega voter fraud, and the lack cooperation from the Republican Party, the lack of real leadership, organization and the execution of well-coordinated planning to get the vote out.

WE HAVE REAL WORK TO DO BEFORE 2016.
We must get rid of the left, we must overhaul the voting system we have..voter fraud is much toooo easy to carry out under the present system, and the Republicans must come together with the Conservatives or we will lose again. We need a leader, a united front...we need to get the blueprint the left uses to plan, coordinate and execute the successful plan that they carried out to win this election, EXCEPT OF COURSE VOTER FRAUD. And we have to start NOW.

36 posted on 11/19/2012 12:09:38 AM PST by itssme
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To: itssme
"Since the Republicans and Conservatives are at odds and not united, we have no united front to plan, coordinate and execute those plans like the left is united and capable of doing."

I nominate William Wallace as the 2016 GOP candidate (what? Dead people vote in large numbers. why not nominate one for POTUS?)

39 posted on 11/19/2012 2:12:39 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: itssme; kiryandil

You’re right, and we’ve got to start working NOW, because for one thing that will get us a better candidate. The primaries seemed to come as a surprise to the GOP and there was really nobody lined up, except Romney (who had done nothing except campaign, sometimes very viciously, since 2008) and Santorum (who had also taken a year off to do nothing but travel around Iowa looking for votes). But these people were promoted by themselves, and not by any great groundswell of popular interest in their positions or enthusiasm for them personally. Perhaps the GOP leaders supported Romney believing that he had a chance of winning because he would bring to the general election that same vicious, focused quality that he displayed in his primary campaign - but he didn’t.

I voted for him, of course, and I encouraged other people who didn’t like him to vote for him simply because anybody he appointed or surrounded himself was bound to be better than any of the evil fools surrounding the chief evil fool himself, Obama. But it’s hard for people to get enthusiastic about voting “strategically,” and I think not enough of them could get motivated to get out the door and down to the polling place.

So we need to start working NOW on getting a candidate with some clear positions and a personality (since, like it or not, voters in the US now do seem to go for the “celebrity effect”) so that there is at least somebody leading when the primaries roll around. Remember, Obama didn’t have a primary fight to worry about.

The other thing was a fascinating article I read in the WSJ this morning. It said that the Dems got voters out through “big data,” and that they had been running this campaign ever since the day after the last election, literally. They kept in touch with their supporters, put cookies on their PCs so that they could track things ranging from website visits to shopping preferences, sent them regular e-mail contacts about one thing or another (and not just asking for money, which was all I ever got from the GOP), and got them out to vote early, which is vitally important. This doesn’t show that they won in the sphere of ideas, of course, but simply in the sphere of diligent voter management. That may seem a little unfair, but we have to think about it and do the same: stay in touch with the voters, develop their interest and committment, and not suddenly remember four years from now that there are voters out there and we’re not going to win if we don’t get them!


44 posted on 11/19/2012 7:33:22 AM PST by livius
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