Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage [Faith Schools Too!]

Telegraph(UK) ^ | November 18, 2012 | John Bingham

[Steelfish]

Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage

By John Bingham 18 Nov 2012 Liz Truss, an education minister, refused to rule out the possibility that teachers, even in faith schools, could face disciplinary action for objecting on grounds of conscience.

Miss Truss said simply that it was impossible to know what the impact of the legislation would be at this stage.

Her admission came in a letter to a fellow Conservative MP, David Burrowes, last month.

Mr Burrowes, a practising Christian, originally wrote to Maria Miller, the equalities minister, raising concerns about the impact on schools of the Coalition’s plans to change the marriage laws.

It followed the publication of a legal opinion by Aidan O’Neill QC, a barrister in the same London chambers as Cherie Blair, commissioned by the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against same-sex unions.

Mr O’Neill, an expert on human rights, was asked to advise on the impact redefining marriage to include same-sex couples could have on schools, churches, hospitals, foster carers and public buildings. Among his conclusions was that schools could be within their statutory rights to dismiss staff who wilfully fail to use stories or textbooks promoting same-sex weddings.

Parents who object to gay marriage being taught to their children would also have no right to withdraw their child from lessons, he argued. And, in theory, the fact that a school was a faith school would make no difference, he added.

[heartwood]

And if you have a principal who hates you or suspects you because you’re not towing (toeing?) the liberal line, you’ll get a lot more class observations. Don’t have tenure? You’re done.

If one of your students has a gay parent or a left-wing busybody parent, there will be complaints travelling up the chain, hell, complaints to the local press “I gave Ms. Lady a book to read to the class because Sam was feeling left out because there was no depiction of families like herm own - I told her Sam was feeling left out, but she never read it.”

[A_perfect_lady]

That sounds like private school. I should add as a disclaimer that I teach in the inner city. I have no parents that fit the description you just gave.

[A_perfect_lady]

I should add that my experience (MY experience, only) so far has been that a principal will only hate you if you make his/her job harder by being unable to control your classroom. Most principals are exhausted, and most of them care more about upward mobility than any philosophical stance. If your classrooms are orderly and neat and you don't bug them with constant discipline problems and referrals, they won't care if you're teaching straight out of Stainless Steel Rat. JMHO. If your objectives align with the standards, your kids are in their seats, and your grades are in on time, they have more pressing issues.

But again, that's my experience: middle school, inner city, parents are teen gangsters or in jail, kid got shot at the bus stop, that sort of thing. I should always provide a disclaimer, I suppose. I forget not everyone's experiences are like mine. Mea culpa.

[A_perfect_lady]

Shakespeare’s sonnets were love poems to a man!

"My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head..." (Sonnet 130)

You sure?

[paglia444]

The first 89 or so; yes, I’m sure about those. Go take a gander.

[A_perfect_lady]

And I live in West Hollywood. You go into the bathroom in a gay bar, you are likely to interrupt two men having sex in the lady’s room (yes, this is from personal experience.) You go into the bathroom of a straight bar, they’re just barfing like normal people. ;^)

[little jeremiah]

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Children should not even know about the existence of homosexual perversion or any other kind of perversion, nor should they be taught about normal sexuality in schools. Parents should teach their children about sexuality. Schools can teach biology, that's it. Paglia444 is a homosexual agenda promoting troll and hopefully will get the hook shortly. Paglia is saying the "gay is good" and "normal is evil".

[paglia444]

Well, I could also share my own personal experience, which you apparently believe is sufficient basis to generalize about gay and straight people. I won’t drain Free Republic of bandwidth talking about my visits to bathrooms and what I see or don’t see.

[steve86]

We have guns here (and getting increasingly close to “nothing left to lose”).

[paglia444]

LOL. I am not a “homosexual agenda promoting troll”! Where did I say that homosexuality should be taught in school? I said that I was prepared to defend keeping schools free of gay propaganda on the larger principle that schools are not the forum for adults to proselytize about politics.

And where did I say “normal is evil”? Are you saying that any deviation from the norm is, by default, evil.

I enjoy Free Republic for its intelligent (and humorous!) discussions of liberty, politics, the constitution, and faith, but I’m surprised at how small-minded and simplistic people get when a gay person walks into the room.

[A_perfect_lady]

We must both do as we see fit. I looked at Shakespeare's earlier sonnets and what came to mind is that he wrote plays for the theatre, at a time when women didn't act, and all women's roles were played by pretty young men. So if he developed a passion for an effeminate youth here or there, it can't be surprising. People are fairly malleable.

The fact remains that homosexual sex cannot reproduce the species, so it must be at best secondary in importance to heterosexual sex in nature's scheme of things.

I think the objection by many conservatives is that we have seen the progression of an agenda that first called for tolerance, then demanded acceptance, now pushes for celebration, and will soon expect preference. This is simply human nature, this desire to attain pre-eminence, but here it is in service of a lifestyle that seems to lead, at best, nowhere.

[Gabz]

Please self report yourself for abuse.

Some of us do allow our children to read Ree Republic and your language in this post is totally out of line, and against the rules of the forum.

[steve86]

That’s how I feel.

In person would be more blunt and graphic.

[Gabz]

I really don’t care - you have violated the rules of the forum with your foul language. And you’ve been around long enough to know that.

[steve86]

I can’t blame you for reporting it but did that expletive and slang bother you more than homosexual promotion / mandate does? /rhetorical question so I won’t look back for the reply

[Gabz]

I did not report it - I asked you to do so. I didn’t report it because it wasn’t directed at me.

As to your rhetorical question - both bother me. However, that you have no problem with breaking the rules of this forum bothers me even more than your public usage of foul language.

[little jeremiah]

70% is probably an underestimate.

[Albion Wilde]

Gay love has existed throughout history and in nearly every culture so it is hardly the “perversion” you claim.

So have theft and murder existed throughout history and in nearly every culture; but a long history does not excuse them from being perversions of healthy social deportment, either. Gay behavior is inherently harmful to society and to individuals. Doesn't matter when.