Skip to comments.Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage [Faith Schools Too!]
Posted on 11/18/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by Steelfish
Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage
By John Bingham 18 Nov 2012 Liz Truss, an education minister, refused to rule out the possibility that teachers, even in faith schools, could face disciplinary action for objecting on grounds of conscience.
Miss Truss said simply that it was impossible to know what the impact of the legislation would be at this stage.
Her admission came in a letter to a fellow Conservative MP, David Burrowes, last month.
Mr Burrowes, a practising Christian, originally wrote to Maria Miller, the equalities minister, raising concerns about the impact on schools of the Coalitions plans to change the marriage laws.
It followed the publication of a legal opinion by Aidan ONeill QC, a barrister in the same London chambers as Cherie Blair, commissioned by the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against same-sex unions.
Mr ONeill, an expert on human rights, was asked to advise on the impact redefining marriage to include same-sex couples could have on schools, churches, hospitals, foster carers and public buildings. Among his conclusions was that schools could be within their statutory rights to dismiss staff who wilfully fail to use stories or textbooks promoting same-sex weddings.
Parents who object to gay marriage being taught to their children would also have no right to withdraw their child from lessons, he argued. And, in theory, the fact that a school was a faith school would make no difference, he added.
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So they are mandated to pressure kids to accept homosexuality as normal...
I will never understand how queers attained the power they now hold.
These sick ,mentally ill,perverts have taken away morality and replaced it with sick sex acts. They have displaced right with evil.
Why are heterosexuals putting up with this crap?
Now they want to adopt so they can raise new Homo’s.
raise new homo’s...
isn’t that what schools and media is for?
My question is: Does “faith schools” include Muslim schools as well? That would be interesting to see.
If ‘faith’ schools are required to also make this part of the curriculum, does this apply to Islamic Madrassah schools as well?
After all, we must be even-handed in how these things are applied. If the Islamic imams do not like it, they may have to disband the school, or return all their children to their country of origin for basic religious and/or academic instruction.
Americans had better not take the right to homeschool their own children for granted, bcause we have the proof right before our eyes, of governments in “civilised” European countries taking that right away from parents.
Through history homo's have gained power~~but at some point they get thrown back into the so called closet.
Why is that? Maybe they push too far? Demand to lower the age of consent to come after the kids?
At some point they will go too far~
And still parents refuse to take the steps necessary to pull their kids out of the indoctrination centers (calling them schools is a misnomer) and teaching them correctly.
Plus, the feckless ‘leaders’ in Congress refuse to do their JOBS and put a stop to the BS; let alone order a complete dismantle to the whole Unconstitutional department.
I put the parents in the same camp as those that pay someone else to raise their children while they toil at a job now making 1/2 of what they did (cost of daycare) and wonder why their children grow up this way.
Days like this I’m glad I don’t have kids...
they have the power of the media. they almost own it. It is like owning a planet. It is the most incredible brainwashing tool in human history.
Politicians go along with them because they want to be on television as ‘good’ politicias. the media literally decides who will be elected and who not.
Here is one possible reason: “In the latter days, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons”. I would think that, as an extrapolation, one could say that you don’t have to have first been one of the faith to listen to doctrines of demons.
Another thought: “Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse”
Satan is active in this world, orchestrating the powers of darkness.
It’s a madhouse!
Who will make the decision to sack anybody who refuses? It seems that everyone is saying “I don’t agree, but its the law.” Who proposed the law, and who will enforce it if the people reject it.
“...they are mandated to pressure kids to accept homosexuality as normal...”
It’s much worse than that.
The perverts are grooming the kids to become willing victims.
70% of “gays” were molested as children.
This is a recruiting campaign, not just a demand for acceptance.
In other words, they don't know if you comply unless you loudly announce that you will not comply. If they told me tomorrow that I had to teach using a short story on a wonderfully happy gay couple, depending on my view of the story, I could take it, nod gratefully, and ask if they have any quizzes or vocabulary lesson plans to go with it... and then stack it neatly in a cabinet, never to be seen again. Or I could use it and we'll use it as an opportunity to talk about propaganda and bias... or I could use it as they'd like me to, but as a teacher you have a lot of leeway. You just have to be tactful and discreet.
Muslims seem to be exempt from everything
The plumbing doesn’t work, thus it is a perversion.
Do you deny my assertion that 70% of gays were molested as children?
“gay love” bull!
The rate of anonymous gay sex and child rape certainly puts the lie to that meme.
I will never understand how queers attained the power they now hold.
Why are heterosexuals putting up with this crap?
Homosexuals are the ultimate insiders’ club; exclusive, fraternal, covert and bound by mutual self interest. Thus they can and do assist each other to positions of power, profit and prestige and these are the coin of influence. Along the way, they are among the most social of men, thus they circulate and circulation yields the opportunities to cherry pick protoges, identify weaknesses, and to compromise people via honey traps and seductions along myriad lines of weakness.
Subvert, possess, manipulate.
Have you not noticed how the Republicans only became completely ineffective after ‘Filegate’? Similar procedures enable an influence that goes far beyond apparent numbers.
And if you have a principal who hates you or suspects you because you’re not towing (toeing?) the liberal line, you’ll get a lot more class observations. Don’t have tenure? You’re done.
If one of your students has a gay parent or a left-wing busybody parent, there will be complaints travelling up the chain, hell, complaints to the local press “I gave Ms. Lady a book to read to the class because Sam was feeling left out because there was no depiction of families like herm own - I told her Sam was feeling left out, but she never read it.”
That sounds like private school. I should add as a disclaimer that I teach in the inner city. I have no parents that fit the description you just gave.
But again, that's my experience: middle school, inner city, parents are teen gangsters or in jail, kid got shot at the bus stop, that sort of thing. I should always provide a disclaimer, I suppose. I forget not everyone's experiences are like mine. Mea culpa.
"My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head..." (Sonnet 130)
The first 89 or so; yes, I’m sure about those. Go take a gander.
And I live in West Hollywood. You go into the bathroom in a gay bar, you are likely to interrupt two men having sex in the lady’s room (yes, this is from personal experience.) You go into the bathroom of a straight bar, they’re just barfing like normal people. ;^)
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Children should not even know about the existence of homosexual perversion or any other kind of perversion, nor should they be taught about normal sexuality in schools. Parents should teach their children about sexuality. Schools can teach biology, that's it. Paglia444 is a homosexual agenda promoting troll and hopefully will get the hook shortly. Paglia is saying the "gay is good" and "normal is evil".
Well, I could also share my own personal experience, which you apparently believe is sufficient basis to generalize about gay and straight people. I won’t drain Free Republic of bandwidth talking about my visits to bathrooms and what I see or don’t see.
We have guns here (and getting increasingly close to “nothing left to lose”).
LOL. I am not a “homosexual agenda promoting troll”! Where did I say that homosexuality should be taught in school? I said that I was prepared to defend keeping schools free of gay propaganda on the larger principle that schools are not the forum for adults to proselytize about politics.
And where did I say “normal is evil”? Are you saying that any deviation from the norm is, by default, evil.
I enjoy Free Republic for its intelligent (and humorous!) discussions of liberty, politics, the constitution, and faith, but I’m surprised at how small-minded and simplistic people get when a gay person walks into the room.
The fact remains that homosexual sex cannot reproduce the species, so it must be at best secondary in importance to heterosexual sex in nature's scheme of things.
I think the objection by many conservatives is that we have seen the progression of an agenda that first called for tolerance, then demanded acceptance, now pushes for celebration, and will soon expect preference. This is simply human nature, this desire to attain pre-eminence, but here it is in service of a lifestyle that seems to lead, at best, nowhere.
Please self report yourself for abuse.
Some of us do allow our children to read Ree Republic and your language in this post is totally out of line, and against the rules of the forum.
That’s how I feel.
In person would be more blunt and graphic.
I really don’t care - you have violated the rules of the forum with your foul language. And you’ve been around long enough to know that.
I can’t blame you for reporting it but did that expletive and slang bother you more than homosexual promotion / mandate does? /rhetorical question so I won’t look back for the reply
I did not report it - I asked you to do so. I didn’t report it because it wasn’t directed at me.
As to your rhetorical question - both bother me. However, that you have no problem with breaking the rules of this forum bothers me even more than your public usage of foul language.
70% is probably an underestimate.
So have theft and murder existed throughout history and in nearly every culture; but a long history does not excuse them from being perversions of healthy social deportment, either. Gay behavior is inherently harmful to society and to individuals. Doesn't matter when.
Schools cannot be value neutral. The very idea of values neutral was invented by secular humanists to push their own standards. Morality cannot be separated from public life, and the false claim that it can is merely a backdoor method of promoting immorality in the name of "neutrality".
Oops, I see you've already been ushered out the door.
People need to understand that our nation's decline is not going to be stopped with civility, politeness and niceties, nor even voting, evidently. What it will actually take to turn things around is yet to be determined. But sticking smilies on polite thread comments and deleting harsh ones isn't going to do it, I'm pretty well convinced.
It is true that all kinds of evils have existed since time immemorial, including sexual perversion. Doesn't make it normal, natural or beneficent.
What? They looked up? Amateurs...
I am apologizing to the straight people on this thread for the outburst LOL
Don't let it hit you. If that was you, Camille, I'd like to see you return under some other name; I've respected and admired much of what you have to say in many fields, but this is a private association and one needs to respect the ground rules here.
The owner can break whatever rules he so desires, it is his site. I have no fear of getting angry with liberal trolls, I’ve done it plenty - but with language I would have no problem allowing my 14 year old to read. If I chose, I could make a seafarer blush with my vernacular, however I happen to not choose to stoop to the level of the liberal trolls.
Oops, meant my last post for paglia444.
I wanted to see what other comments paglia had made, but the purple error was already up. I wonder it was was Camille P or someone using her name.
Quite true. But then so has any perversion you might care to name. Assuming you would consider any behavior to qualify as a perversion.
The issue is that in the vast majority, though not all, of these societies "gay love" was thoroughly in the closet, not out and proud. Very often it was a severely punished crime.
If we took a poll of all humans who have ever lived, the huge majority would vote for gay love being a perversion.
That's not perhaps the best way to settle such issues, but it makes more sense than a recent, two or three decades long fad for acceptance and celebration in a few decadent western countries being touted as the norm, and all other previous human behavior the exception./I