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If God Doesn’t Judge Us, He’ll Have to Apologize to Sodom
Townhall.com ^ | November 18, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 11/18/2012 5:42:12 AM PST by Kaslin

I have to admit that when Obama “won” re-election I became more depressed than Madonna’s audience was when they were forced to watch her strip the other night. For God’s sake, Madonna, put some material on that mess, material girl. I guess she’s going to follow Cher’s path and torture us with her exhibitionism ‘til she takes the big dirt nap. Like a virgin? Yeah … right. More like a sturgeon. Hang it up, Madge … you’re scaring the children. Anyway, back to my post-election depression.

As I was saying, giddy I was not that Obama secured a second term via Fieldworks, entitlement mooks and the sponge-brained propaganda swillers of the ludicrous Left … but he did. And for that I must concede that if there is a God and this God is defined by the contents of the sacred Scripture, then this God must be really ticked off at the U.S. because He allowed, in His sovereignty, for us to be saddled with four more years of an administration that blows worse than Hurricane Sandy.

Yep, for those who take their cue from the Bible, you must have noticed that anytime God wanted to wake His wayward nation the heck up because they were belligerently ignoring His statutes, He usually appointed a crappy leader who brought their nation down to Chinatown through bad dictates.

Sure, God sometimes plagued His contumacious people with frogs or hemorrhoids or let enemy nations batter them unmercifully, but on many occasions He simply let them be governed by a daft king, some Moronosaurus Rex who ignored God’s ways and led Israel into a moral and economic ditch. That’s right. You heard me. God allowed it to happen. Not El Diablo, but God.

Personally, I don’t know why God hasn’t whooshed us completely off the map by now. I do know that if He doesn’t kick our backside for us showing Him our backside that—forgive me Lord—He owes Sodom and Gomorrah a big apology.

So, what can we do? Here are five musts that’ll get us on a decent footing with our compass pointing true north again.

1. As people of faith, we can quit sucking our thumb in the fetal position and wetting our big Christian diaper. God never promised us a rose garden—especially when our nation snubs its nose at His commands. It’s going to get rough, so I suggest putting on a cup and quit crying like a wuss.

2. Before we go on whining and moaning about the Left’s wantonness, we’d better make dang certain that our house is in order, eh Church Lady?

3. We might want to recommit our lives to God and our God-honoring founding docs and not give any wannabe leader who does not hold our Constitution in the highest esteem, on the left or right, our hearts and votes. Duh.

4. All the Pollyanna Christians out there who voted for this anti-biblical mess, you should be ashamed and hit yourself in the head with a sledgehammer. Repeatedly.

5. Lather, rinse and repeat steps one through four.

Look, the only hope I hold out for America is that God, at the end of the day, is extremely merciful. And therein lies my solitary confidence because we deserve to get our clock cleaned for how we’ve behaved and not receive a second chance.

In my obnoxious opinion I believe He’s going to allow us to sweat it for a few more years just to be certain that our repentance isn’t specious and our commitment to His governance is steadfast. I think that He thinks we’re full of it and truly don’t want to go His way, and the only way to ferret us out is to see if we’ll stick with His program over time or if we will simply cave in and bow and kiss the ring of stale statism.

And that, my friend, is a story that’s yet to be told.

Check out my latest video on how Allen West got scammed by Obama’s Fieldworks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012campaigns; barackobama; god; lamestreammedia

1 posted on 11/18/2012 5:42:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He has allowed us to have obama for two terms. I would say that is judgement.


2 posted on 11/18/2012 5:47:18 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

My daughter, who is 28, said “we deserve for God to smite us”. I agree.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 5:47:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

Love the Valley-Girl style/not so much.


4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:47:45 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: sport

I have believed for at least four years that we are under the judgment of the Almighty.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 5:50:38 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: Kaslin

Kaslin, G*D IS judging us. Look at Romans 1 and see if it doesn’t describe out currant situation PERFECTLY! When we started OVERTLY treating Israel shabbily(Remember Israel is the APPLE of G*D’s eye) then G*D withdrew his hand of protection over us and gave the MAJORITY of Americans over to STRONG DELUSION! It will get MUCH WORSE! Be prepared for 1st, 2nd and 3rd Century style Persecution!


6 posted on 11/18/2012 5:52:49 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Kaslin

Have to apologize? Who is going to make him?


7 posted on 11/18/2012 5:53:03 AM PST by MNDude
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To: sport

Perhaps you attribute action, or in this case in action, to God that he really had no say or hand in.


8 posted on 11/18/2012 5:55:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kaslin
The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Psalms 12:8

I keep looking up for the big asteroid.

(Youtube: Asteroid Impact HD, set to Pink Floyd’s “Great Gig in the Sky.”)

9 posted on 11/18/2012 5:59:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

If Abraham found ten righteous men God said:

Gen 18:32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”

He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

A Christian is righteous by the blood of the lamb. As long as we have ten Christians, God has nothing to apologize for.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 6:01:15 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Kaslin

He is wrong about one thing.........this isn’t about the nation repenting. It’s about the Church repenting!


11 posted on 11/18/2012 6:03:30 AM PST by HusbandMan
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To: sport
He has allowed us to have Obama for two terms. I would say that is judgement.

I have come to the same conclusion...

I used to think Obama was an aberration...

No longer...God is obviously sending this country a message...

12 posted on 11/18/2012 6:08:36 AM PST by Popman
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To: patriotsblood

>>I have believed for at least four years that we are under the judgment of the Almighty.>>

God works in mysterious ways. I’ve suspected for four years that God approves of our Constitution, and will make us see the light. If it takes four more years to wake us up, then we will survive as a nation. For now, pray, and then pray some more.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 6:10:47 AM PST by kitkat
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To: US Navy Vet

>>When we started OVERTLY treating Israel shabbily

When did we start doing that? Because this judgement has been coming at us like a freight train for 20 years. All that time, we’ve been sending money to Israel and supporting them in whatever they choose to do.

Perhaps the problem is that we have too many Americans who are getting dressed for football games today instead of preparing to go to church. And even a lot of those who are heading off to church are more concerned with “what do I get out of it” instead of worship and praise.

God sent us his only Son to save ALL of mankind. When Jesus died, the veil was torn and we all become the apple of His eye, but only if we choose to accept His grace.

We worship the idols of wealth, materialism, and celebrity and 20% of us give Him an hour of our week. But if we got a good tee time or the football game starts at 1pm, we might have to skip even that hour.

Israel is not a vessel of salvation. Just as feeding the poor isn’t a requirement for grace, neither is taking care of Israel. However, if we were a nation who accepted God’s grace and lived that way, then we would WANT to feed the poor and protect Israel. If we are under judgement, it isn’t because of our treatment of Israel. It is because of our treatment of God.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 6:14:43 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin
I believe He’s going to allow us to sweat it for a few more years just to be certain that our repentance isn’t specious

He knows our heart. He does not need to wait to see if our repentance is true. He does however discipline us. This discipline is a loving discipline. A discipline that helps us become more like Him. It is not our job to make this a righteous nation. It is our mission to lead others to Christ. Jesus has come to gather all that the Father has given Him. None that have been given to Him will be lost.

Jesus said he went ahead to make a place for us. That place is not here on this earth. On this earth we are aliens. This is not our home. Our mission as Christians is to make disciples of all the nations. This is done by baptizing not by voting.

15 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:50 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
A Christian is righteous by the blood of the lamb. As long as we have ten Christians, God has nothing to apologize for.

I think you are missing the point here...God is judging the NATION just like he judged Israel, not the individual Christian or even a city like Sodom...(San Fran)

When the Assyrians destroyed the Northern Kingdom...I am sure there were ten righteous Jews...God destroyed them because as a NATION they did not repent of their evil ways..

16 posted on 11/18/2012 6:16:41 AM PST by Popman
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To: Kaslin

Look, the only hope I hold out for America is that God, at the end of the day, is extremely merciful. And therein lies my solitary confidence because we deserve to get our clock cleaned for how we’ve behaved and not receive a second chance.

Great post and I agree!


17 posted on 11/18/2012 6:24:13 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: Kaslin
He usually appointed a crappy leader who brought their nation down to Chinatown through bad dictates.

We have elections where evil won - and that includes voter fraud.

God is NOT judging us. The world still have to go through His wrath and that hasn't even started yet.

Bottom line - don't blame God for what evil is doing!

18 posted on 11/18/2012 6:26:49 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Popman
God is judging the NATION just like he judged Israel,

Apples and oranges. The nation of Israel is like no other nation ever. This nation was established on an oath made by each of the Israelite's at Mt Sinai. The entire nation made a promise to God. The nation of Israel has been the subject of discipline, not final judgement. The nation of Sodom was judged by God because of its total immorality despite it never making such a commitment that Israel made.

Under the grace of Jesus Christ, it is not about nations. It is about individuals accepting Christ. Unlike Israel, that made a corporate pledge to God. We as Christians do not make a pledge and we do not make it corporately. We merely accept. The Holy Spirit does the work.

19 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:40 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Bryanw92

“Replacement Theology” Much?


20 posted on 11/18/2012 6:31:47 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: bert

If you read your Bible, you will learn that each time man’s will has came in conflict with God’s will, God has allowed man to have his way. The results have always resulted in disaster for man. What is God’s will? What is man’s purpose? The answer to both questions are in the Bible.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 6:32:27 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

Excellent way of presenting truth.

Only complaint is, regardless of how bad our nation gets, I don’t think we can ever say God must do something that we think He should do because He’s done it in the past. His ways are past finding out - and He seems to be creative in his judgments on rebellious man..... He is God.....

II Chron. 7:14


22 posted on 11/18/2012 6:34:14 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Kaslin

No question that O is God’s judgment on our nation.....and He gave us a chance to repent with his first election....but no, we collectively gave Him the finger and said, “NO! We want MORE of this!”

So God says, “Ok....”

Perhaps, like God said to Abraham about Sodom, there are just enough repenting, true Christians here, humbling ourselves and crying out to him that the big hammer is yet being withheld a bit longer.....


23 posted on 11/18/2012 6:38:18 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: HusbandMan

Exactly.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 6:39:32 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve said for some time that America now has the equivalent of Ahab and Jezebel, whom the Lord allowed and ultimately removed.

We’re supposed to pray for our leaders, so I pray that Bammy is deposed, ala Ahab. Michelle should watch out for that family dog!


25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:42:01 AM PST by Wasichu
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To: Kaslin

The east coast got a bit of judgment a few weeks ago. New Orleans got judgment seven years ago and again right to the day, got hit again. We are in droughts here that we have not seen in decades. We have floods in one state, no rain in the state next too it. The only thing that I have yet to see is God’s hand on cities like San Francisco and Seattle. Those being big earthquake cities, I have thought that their judgment is going to be the BIG ONE. That may come soon. Washington just passed gay marriage and free drug use. Kaliforniastan already acts this way. Their judgments are coming. And, I am soooooooooooo glad that we left WA state six years ago. We are free now back home in Alabama. Gotta go, church starts in 30 minutes.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 6:45:10 AM PST by RetiredArmy (November 6, 2012: The day the United States Republic DIED.)
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To: Kaslin

While I agree with the sentiment the premise is untrue

Father God is Soveriegn and NEVER has to apologize.

What he does is always Righteous and True.

He punishes evil and he is Just.

God needs NEVER apoligize.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 6:49:53 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Raycpa

So God had no hand in the formation of the USA or what direction as a country we take.... We as a nation are just individuals that have no responsibility to where our leaders take this country... ? I think not...

You have a very myopic view of the handiwork of God...

Our money says in “God we trust “... We take an oath in court on the Bible...

God set this nation on a course for righteousness.. To be a beacon for liberty, freedom and most importantly to promulgate this Gospel around the world...

His hand was most certainly on us...to show his love to the world... He has

Removed his hand of mercy because we have forsaken his ways as a “Nation” and


28 posted on 11/18/2012 6:56:12 AM PST by Popman
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To: Kaslin

God doesn’t have to apologize to anybody. He can choose who he will as vessels of honor or destruction.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 7:15:06 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Kaslin

God has made it clear that He IS the judge. Jesus told us to “resist not evil” and we keep spinning our wheels instead of performing our small taskings - Love God with all that we are, Love our neighbors as ourselves, and Carry the Word of the Gospel. It has already been decided that Evil will gain and keep the upper hand on this Earth until such time as He comes back to settle the score.


30 posted on 11/18/2012 7:48:52 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
My daughter, who is 28, said “we deserve for God to smite us”. I agree.

The scripture says judgment begins first with the household of God. Before the US is judged, the church will be judged with a severe persecution. And following Communist Russia's example, the average church will dwindle from 300 to 15.

31 posted on 11/18/2012 8:27:20 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


32 posted on 11/18/2012 8:38:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Kaslin

I believe that we are getting ripe for judgement. However, it won’t be like Sodom with complete destruction. In Sodom there was no minyan, no righteous left, unlike here.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 8:50:36 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Kaslin

Obama and his minions in control for another 4 years
Commie RATs in control of the Senate
Complacent RINOs in control of the House
Drought
One destructive storm after another
Israel at war with the Islamofascists

Yes — I would say that God’s judgment is upon us.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 8:58:48 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Oh, please. You don’t know that remark was ironic? Of course he’s not demanding an apology.


35 posted on 11/18/2012 9:00:45 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RetiredArmy
The east coast got a bit of judgment a few weeks ago.

That judgement ensured an Obama win, you would think God would been nice enough to have waited another week or two. Plus in the grand scheme of things Sandy was for the most part weak and over-hyped. It wasn't even a Hurricane, ya think if God wanted to show judgment he would have at least threw a category 3 at them.

New Orleans got judgment seven years ago and again right to the day, got hit again.

Yet the strip clubs in NO were the only area unaffected and San Fransisco lives.

BTW what did the poor people in Galveston in 1906 do to deserve even worse "judgement" than the above?

36 posted on 11/18/2012 9:43:52 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Raycpa

Worth repeating.....”it is not our job to make this a righteous nation”. That line brings clarity. Thank you.


37 posted on 11/18/2012 9:50:30 AM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Polyxene

If this nation turns away from killing innocent life....if this nation turns from glorifying celebrity.....wealth....gay marriage.....etc. I say bring it. Let God’s judgement rain down and turn hearts towards Him. The Church has done a lousy job of showing true love, mercy, grace, compassion....the church instead has watered Jesus down so not to make Him so offensive to American culture and lifestyle and even embraced that which is vile. All that matters is that God be glorified.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 10:02:25 AM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Boxsford

>>If this nation turns away from killing innocent life....if this nation turns from glorifying celebrity.....wealth....gay marriage.....etc. I say bring it. Let God’s judgement rain down and turn hearts towards Him. The Church has done a lousy job of showing true love, mercy, grace, compassion....the church instead has watered Jesus down so not to make Him so offensive to American culture and lifestyle and even embraced that which is vile. All that matters is that God be glorified.

Absolutely. We can’t expect to be a nation that makes Sodom look like Mayberry and deserve God’s blessings—even if we decide to nuke Iran for Israel. Americans need to be reminded that Jesus is also the guy with the whip, turning over tables in the temple and not just the peaceful hippie with a lamb and some children.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 11:00:37 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: qam1
you would think God would been nice enough to have waited another week or two.

Sadly, you don't seem to have a grasp of how it works. God "allows" certain things to happen. SATAN is the god of this world. That is plain in the Scriptures. SATAN is who makes these bad things happen. God chooses who runs things on this planet. He makes kings and tears down kings. He allows judgment on nations because of their BEHAVIOR. Do you think America has earned good rewards? Certainly not. Abortion, free drugs anytime, homosexual marriage. THIS is God's judgment on America for America's misbehavior and unbelief. America has turned its back on God. America has decided they can do it without God. Thus, God has turned America over to itself. He is allowing America to cut its own throat. Until America turns around and seeks His face, we will continue to go down that toilet. Satan will continue to pound and America will continue its fall. Satan must destroy America because America is the ONLY nation on earth that backs Israel. We are turning our backs on God's chosen people, the Jews, thus God will punish us for that. It is THAT SIMPLE.

40 posted on 11/18/2012 11:53:56 AM PST by RetiredArmy (November 6, 2012: The day the United States Republic DIED.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm not one who gets scared easily.

CJ Roberts' decision on 0bamacare and 0bama's reelection has me more than concerned, however. I sense tyranny...


The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.

41 posted on 11/18/2012 11:55:31 AM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: rdb3

Good to see you posting. ‘Pod.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 12:03:49 PM PST by sauropod (For Barack so loved the poor, he created millions more of them.)
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To: patriotsblood

One thing though, the Obama supporters for the most part don’t really believe in The Almighty; maybe what Washington Irving called the “almighty dollar” but little else.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 12:54:18 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, they must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Bryanw92

In the end, Obama has the presidency. God has allowed it. He will use Obama as an instrument of His will. I can live with that. I can live with God’s will be done. My first thought when Obama won was, ‘God is not done with this man or this nation.’


44 posted on 11/18/2012 1:13:48 PM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Mamzelle

Oh Please

Do you know how many people believe that crap?

and use statements like that to justify thier actions?

That statement has been surfing the web for many years and it sticks in my craw....

Get a thicker skin.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 2:04:57 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Rightly Biased

Nothing to do with anybody’s skin. When people write, they generally write on more than one level—at least that’s what interesting writers do, sometimes saying something clearly absurd to make the point. The writer is not challenging God’s omnipotence, he is saying, “We’re now worse than Sodom. Incoming—judgement.”


46 posted on 11/18/2012 2:12:53 PM PST by Mamzelle
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