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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 18 November 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 18 November 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/18/2012 4:46:46 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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1 posted on 11/18/2012 4:46:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; Aleya2Fairlie; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.
2 posted on 11/18/2012 4:48:04 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "Late Edition"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 11/18/2012 4:48:58 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com

Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com

ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

4 posted on 11/18/2012 4:49:22 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

The usual RINO suspects but more conservatives than we’ve seen in a long time.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 4:51:45 AM PST by AU72
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To: Alas Babylon!; All

Morning all

Thanks for the thread and ping AB.

Looks like a potentially interesting bunch of lineups.

I assume we’re going to be treated to deep discussions of Obama’s deep involvement in the Bengazi murders and his upcoming impeachment.

< /sarc >


6 posted on 11/18/2012 4:53:31 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!
At the end of every day and broadcast,
the MSM laughs with guile
that it has again successfully encouraged the American people
to FORGET the continued Islamic terrorist attacks
(WHICH AGAIN REPEATED THIS 9/11 covered up by the MSM),
and willingly pushed America deeper and faster into peril.




7 posted on 11/18/2012 5:01:27 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Present

Lurking only

(My last post on FR came out about half napalm, and none of you really need or deserve that...)


8 posted on 11/18/2012 5:08:28 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good Morning All and thank you AB for your usual superlative Sunday morning thread.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 5:24:30 AM PST by animal172 (RIP USA)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the ping but of a hectic few days as dad been in hospital after bad nose bleed and needed 2 units of blood. Thankfully back home again and am looking forward to the thread today.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 5:35:19 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Alas Babylon!
Looking forward to hearing the Obama admin explain how Susan Rice would be an excellent choice for SOS (Sockpuppet Of State).

Speaking of SOS, doesn't Hillary still have a private army of contractors in Iraq? I thought it was about 10,000 but being increased to 20,000 when Barry got out of Iraq. Couldn't any of those people have gotten to Benghazi while the shooting was still going on?

(There's a lesson to be learned here; if Barry Obama and his admin had ever watched a classic Western where the US Cavalry showed up just in time, maybe they would have thought of that. Too bad Barry's White House Choom gang thinks that Bareback Mountain is what Westerns look like.)

11 posted on 11/18/2012 5:36:46 AM PST by Bernard ('He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else' - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: snugs

We sincerely hope your dad is OK snugs. Great to have you aboard.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 5:48:09 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Bernard
The wrong Rice is probably an excellent choice for the Chicago mobsters who run the govt.

If they chose Suzan Rice they would only have to generate one teleprompter speech for both ozero and rice. It would be very cost effective!

Also, its difficult to find anyone in govt. at her level that is stupid enough to repeat the same lie five times on five different networks and actually look as if she believed it!

The only one I can think of who is absolutely as dumb as her is Joe Biden! Look where he wound up!

13 posted on 11/18/2012 5:53:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

All right, where’s the bray?


14 posted on 11/18/2012 5:54:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, ALL…

...no singing this morning, went to church yesterday, staying home today to enjoy yon company, quiet and presence with husband.

Did I tell y’all about my $42,000?

In due course. Meanwhile, thank you AB for doing this thread, as always, dependably and reliably.

I have been following Benghazi with concentration and , as expected, I’ve some thoughts.

And I don’t know just what’s going to come of it all.

I am, of course, way beyond “thinking” the administration lied about the riot thing, come on, I got common sense way beyond the Beltway crowd. It’s obvious Obama and Jarrett changed the whole narrative of the Benghazi events and if you want to talk to me about it do not even return to anything beyond that acknowledged lie.

For all week the various talking heads have been called upon to give their assessment of administration lies. Lessee, there’s been Jindal, Chuckie Schumer, Sherrod Brown, Joan Rivers, Micky Mouse….at one point they even asked Snookie of Jersey shore for her theory!

Some questions to ponder….did the administration just sit back and watch those people die?

Who are all those people evacuated from the annex, where are they, why don’t we get a translator, call them in, and find out what the hell happened? Some 40+ people evacuated from the CIA annex and no one’s talked yet to any of them?

What is Obama guilty of? At best, one might saythe administration is guilty of hapless performance.

At worst….what? Could this have been a planned event, could the “riot” have been arranged to allow a break in and removal of those prisoners for….oh I dunno, a nice big contribution through the Holy land charities to the Obama campaign?

Further, is this Benghazi thing impeachable? If so, will the congress do it? If not, why bother, why the hell bother?

In reference to my fabulous $42,000 that fell right from the sky into my lap, I happened to speak to a financial person Friday and she was way wise.

I chose to invest my sudden wealth in the stock market although I agonized for almost a week about it.

I did, of course, buy me some new clothes and gave my daughter some cause, hey, the money fell right outta the sky, more on this later.

Am interested in Benghazi theories as this always makes good Freep threads.


15 posted on 11/18/2012 5:58:01 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: snugs

Saying a prayer for Dad, Snugs.

Glad to see you back. I’m making something with shrimp but know not what. Am open to ideas.


16 posted on 11/18/2012 6:00:04 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

About my $42,000…..it’s just an anecdote but in a lot of ways I had to face issues caused by this recent election and I really did have some angst.

In 1968 (yes, that long ago), I began a job working for Western Electric in Baltimore Merryland. I worked there through 1982 (this tiny fact is important) at which point WE was broken up by part of mighty AT&T and was phasing down.

WE paid for my college degree (do companies today offer tuition refund any more?) and I hung on for 15 years cause they said I had to to get a pension.

Now I knew there was a pension allegedly waiting for me from WE….which is now, pay close attention, ALCATEL. Used to be Lucent Technologies and before that Western Electric, okay, that detail now elaborated upon.

Through the years I would get these statements saying when I “retired” I would get about $500 or so a month. Well I liked that fact but after I had quadruple bypass surgery the SS sent me a note, to the effect that I had a possible pension payer out there, which was then, Lucent Technologies, that I should contact them. I was 57 years old at the time.

So I DID contact them as instructed but they said they do not pay for disability retirement so okay, but they got my new address in Delaware, my new name, all that….

Heck, I re-married three times since my WE days, plus moved to a new state, yada, yada.

So one day in mid-August I get this letter….”you now have the option of choosing a lump sum for your retirement from Alcatel (which they are now) and if you do, your lump sum payment would be $41,987.32.

Well this suited me just fine though I’d believe it when I see it.

…..more later...got some things to say about the, eh, Sun day morning talk shows.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 6:09:21 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk; snugs

I tried the soup and it was delicious! Snugs, hope your dad is doing well.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 6:10:41 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Will Twinkies be reborn through new Mexican ownership? by Adrian Carrasquillo, @RealAdrianC 3:02 pm on 11/17/2012

Next week may be Black Friday but sweets lovers across the nation hung their heads in sorrow on a dark Friday yesterday as Hostess announced they would cease making their line of products, which include the iconic Twinkies brand, because of the Bakers Union Strike.

19 posted on 11/18/2012 6:12:12 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

[just turned it on]

Seems like Wallace is implying that the new talkingpoints/narrative is that the WH used ‘other stories’ [movie, etc.] so as not to tip off the terrorists.

==


20 posted on 11/18/2012 6:13:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Fishtalk

Here’s my question about Israel, and it’s the question I think every Republican should be asking, publicly, loudly, over and over....

FOR WHAT GODAWFUL REASON ARE ROCKETS BEEN SHOT AT ISRAEL FROM THE GAZA STRIP....WHY? WHY? WHY?

Anybody remember Arafat?

If the pubs/opposition party had some kind of power they’d be able to make their case but it’s the same old story.

What has Israel done to the Gaza strip that they have a right to lob rockets over the borders?

Come on.....WE NEED BETTER PR/Spokesnoids on these matters.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 6:13:47 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS:

Saxby Chamblis talking about Petreaus testimony: Knew from day one it was a terrorist attack. References to Alkida and “attack” were removed by “somebody”

Susan Rice will have to come in and testify before the committee.

Lieberman: Whether or not it was a demonstration is interesting but not important. What is important is why the facility was left undefended.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:07 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: rodguy911

Have boycotted the news and politics while I try to get over losing our Country. Besides, not interested in the sex story to deflect Binghazi from the messiah.

On a brighter note, I defeated the Country club in our county yesterday and won the Chairmanship. This is a major defeat to the Establishment in Oregon and a win for the Tea Party.

Now we the grassroots have a real say in how things are done. Already got my first phone call explaining why we have to drop the social issues and he soon found out he called the wrong person.

I will be back after Thanksgiving while I organize our grassroots effort. People were calling and saying this was the best day’s of their year. Pretty exciting.

Pray for America


23 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:35 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

If with the newest version of WH talkingpoints, Lieberman questions where and why regarding the security. Where was security and support and why was the Benghazi compound so unprotected?


24 posted on 11/18/2012 6:16:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

Diane Feinstein defending the WH and Rice.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:19:12 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bray

Congratulations!


26 posted on 11/18/2012 6:20:16 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: bray

Congratulations, and thank you for putting your foot down.

We need good conservative leadership like this in every state.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:30 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Diane F saying that Rice was only saying what she could that wasn't classified.

So ---- just who declassified the story that there had been a spontaneous demonstration???

Was that a classified lie until it was declassified and then became a declassified lie.

28 posted on 11/18/2012 6:24:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alas Babylon!

Wow....Feinstein is spinning in such circles, she makes no sense.

the CIA narrative was right, the only difference was one word, but the narrative was changed...HUH? We’re going to find out who made changes....says Feinstein, but there were no changes...HUH?
SHE IS SOOOOO NERVOUS!
she is brilliant that she says intelligence should be connected to policy and the security.DUH.

thank heavens we have a conservative on there ( Mike rogers?).

Now she has gone on and on about the long tours...Hey,
it’ s Obama.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 6:24:59 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Uncle Chip

a new lie everyday. new liars every other day


30 posted on 11/18/2012 6:25:24 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Fishtalk

What I had to go thru to get that lump sum payout is almost a sin.

Had to send in to get secret password to sign on that I’m interested, packet will come.

Packet came….one quadrillion papers to fill out...husband to sign notorized form agreeing that he’ll give up any pension death benefits, sign here, certified marriage c ertific ate...got from Annapolis Merryland, my birth certificate...on and on and on.

Meanwhile I hear out the side of my head that Obama plans to take over all American pension benefits being held overseas-Alcatel is now a FRENCH company. I’m freaking.

And the French, folks, are boobs….sheesh….terrible time doing this.

Then I must get a rollover account AHEAD of time or Alcatel will withold some $8,000 from my payout so did that, bank gets all cornfused.

“You will get your check by 10/16/12 if you fill out the forms right. If you donj’t then no check and Alcatel will NOT return any papers.”

So I did then forgot to sign paper verifying I do NOT owe child support anywhere….as an aside, THIS is a fine example where we have private businesses policiing the social laws and how big a pain it is. “You must return this with postmarked by 9/16 or you don’t get your money”.

Well I received this on….9/15! A Saturday! No way I could get it postmarked on that date but I figger, okay, since 9/16 is a weekend day, I got till Monday right?

So comes 10/16...NO CHECK!

I throw up arms….I knew it wouldn’t happen. I was hoping for what would not happen.

THEN, outta the blue, somebody from the ALCATEL calls me up…”We are very sorry, we should have processed your check, we will process it by 11/16”. Actually TWO people from Alcatel called me up, I don’t know why, both said same thing. And since it was THEIR mistake, they would give me an extra month’s interest.

Still I would believe when I see.

Last week bank calls me …”your money’s in”. AND I did get that extra month’s interest, heh, check was for $42,015.37.

All day, folks, all damn day at the bank, signing this check, signing that, signing papers, how to invest rollover, I want one thousand bucks cash…..which I got but wasn’t easy.

More on cash and husband’s input coming up…...


31 posted on 11/18/2012 6:26:17 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: mtnwmn
Watching ABC, Levin trotted out preposterous new talking point -- that Petraeus 'signed off' on Rice's talking points -- omitting their omission, which King immediately called him on.

This whole subtext of Lurch v. Rice for State, with McCrisis and King pulling for Lurch, is just Bizzaro World.

32 posted on 11/18/2012 6:27:33 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Doing a terrible job...cause she can’t defend it! ha.
spinning in circles...she should be falling out of her chair with the spinning...looks like a scene out of the Excorcist movie.ha.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 6:27:33 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: bray

Jindal whacking out about Romney’s vote buying comments, saying Republicans don’t need to be insulting the voters...being “the stupid party”...need people to like us.

I suppose he has a point, but I think Romney is right.

Jindal talking about being the party of private sector growth and massive tax reform. We don’t need two liberal parties.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:01 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: bray

What position were you elected for?


35 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:11 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Jindal clip: We gotta stop saying stupid things.

[Reference to Romney’s claim that he last because of all the Obama givaways.]

Jindal: We are not the party of big ...


36 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:44 AM PST by TomGuy
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ABC Schadenfreudtastic Moment: Martha Raddatz interviewing Im A-man-pour, on the roof of some hotel in Tel Aviv. Not even a year ago! it was the other way around...”So, Christine, your buttprint is still in this chair...”


37 posted on 11/18/2012 6:34:14 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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Gov Jindal, new head of Republican Governors Assn - interview summary with Chris Wallace: capitulation!

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There is no hope left for Republican leadership. They do not acknowledge that such a word exists in the English language.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 6:36:46 AM PST by maica
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Lindsay Graham doing a good job dismantling Feinstein and Rogers [wimp Republican] previous interview.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 6:37:32 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bray

Huge congrats. Grass roots is where it will need to be.


40 posted on 11/18/2012 6:38:44 AM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: TomGuy
Seems like Wallace is implying that the new talkingpoints/narrative is that the WH used ‘other stories’ [movie, etc.] so as not to tip off the terrorists.

This explains why MSM reporters were having tea in the outdoor cafe with the self-admitted Benghazi terrorists before the Obama Admin. admitted they exist.

41 posted on 11/18/2012 6:38:47 AM PST by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

It was a pretty amazing scene really. Gave an excellent speech and then the establishment puppet got up and said me too plus a Mormon nobody knew but said we needed to drop the social issues (abortion) and stay with fiscal.

I had 94 votes and they had 33 and 67 but since I didn’t have a majority we had a runoff and gave us 60 seconds. The establishment had the pro-choice come up and endorse her.

So the Country Club who had claimed I was pro-choice went in with someone wanting to drop life and marriage to defeat the Tea Party candidate. I ended up winning 112 to 80.

Pray for my leadership


42 posted on 11/18/2012 6:39:27 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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To: TomGuy

Jindal and Walker both opted out of the ObamaCare exchanges, so did many other states including Maine.

Why is worthless Woodward even allowed on FOX?


43 posted on 11/18/2012 6:42:14 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Uncle Chip

Yeah, he did a great job.

Oh God, now here comes Nasal Andrea Mitchell..MAJOR FACELIFT!
(but that didn’t help her brain.)


44 posted on 11/18/2012 6:43:03 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: morphing libertarian

Washington County Chairman. We have the most Republicans in Oregon. We are going to take it to the belly of the beast.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 6:43:03 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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ABC uglying up over Rice. Democrats on panel have no idea how badly their hypocritical remarks will come back to haunt them this week.

Get it? This Week? Get it?

Anyhoo, the takeaway is that apparently Bobo is dog-ona-bone for Rice, and the GOP+BlueDog Senate (and apparently a shitton of the Beltway) wants Lurch, and is threatening to Benghazi her confirmation hearings PLUS a filibuster.

46 posted on 11/18/2012 6:43:16 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Given that the Petraeus issue is still news, with more to come out, if this had been reveled BEFORE the election, Obama may very well have lost. Thanks for nothing, Gen P...


47 posted on 11/18/2012 6:44:42 AM PST by PghBaldy (Pete Hoekstra RE: Petraeus "There's more here than meets the eye.")
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To: Fishtalk

Okay, since yon reader has endured my story, let me throw in a bit of Women’s Lib just to add some balance.

This is the last entry on this matter, thank you for indulging me.

So I give my daughter $150 out of my windfall. Lookit, I gave it to her, right there, outta my hand, just gave it to her, yes I did. Well actually I transferred it into her account cause she’d just moved, she gets up at 4 am every day to take her license-less husband to work, must also take kid, works hard....and she’s my daughter.

$150 bucks folks, out of my $42K.

Well it’ll be more than that but I digress.

Husband chances to see the transfer on bank statement, asks what is, I tell truth.

Argument ensues...I shouldn’t give her money, don’t get my nephew a gift for Christmas, so Kaitlyn got straight A’s (Kaitlyn is granddaughter)...in his home getting straight A’s was the norm.

You know, it’s how arguments go, one thing to another to another. My daughter is NOT my husband’s child though he helped raise her since she was 12. They had a falling out long time ago, goodness when she was 15 she shouted to him that he was NOT her father....all of 15, imagine that...and still he holds it against her. She’s now 35.

Whatever....finally I pulled out the big gun. And women’s lib or not, go to hell....here’s the facts. I worked at ersatz ALCATEL from 1968 through 1983 or so. I married my husband in 1988.

HUSBAND WAS NOWHERE AROUND WHEN I WORKED AT WESTERN ELECTRIC!

IT’s MY money, I told husband, though I emphasoze now that I didn’t initially think of it that way, I did consider it OUR money, such as it is, the thought of his and ours didn’t, at first, enter my head.

But he’s griping about me slipping my kid $150?

Oh yes I did, I pointed out how the hell he thought he had a right to tell me what to do with MY money, and further, if I wanted to I could give the entire amount to my daughter, a court of law would take my size for funds I earned some six years before I ever met the man.

HE, of course, launched into a litany of how much money HE brought in, which he had a handsome 401K but facts are facts, his 401K came from Sears from a matching program they had. AND HE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROGRAM UNTIL....hold your breath folks, HE MARRIED ME!

In other words I was picking up the deducts from his salary through MY salary and he earned every dime of it while married to me...which was, of course, the plan. And I made, every year I worked, DOUBLE what he made, just so’s you know I sure did do my share, bringing home the bacon and y’all know I cook it up in a pan.

Not quite the same thing and I never took any of this 401K money and gave it to my daughter or would I without telling him.

Further, I was rolling over my pension and HE would be named my beneficiary (I am beneficiary of his money and I respect our marriage). I rolled over $35,000 and I won that argument about whose money it was and the stupid arguing about a minute $150.

Which is why I managed to get $1,000 cash out of the Alcatel check which husband does not know about, which I might give a big chunk to daughter for Christmas sorry I got to be so sneaky but I just want to share with my daughter, who was THERE the whole time I worked at WE, who got taken to the babysitter every morning so I could work there, sometimes at 3am in the morn.

Anyway, that’s my story.

It’s MY money and the big lug should have kept his selfish mouth shut.

I still love him and know that I can have money any time I want but he doesn’t like to give my daughter anything.

It’s an old wound but hey, again, it’s MY money.

Heh.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 6:45:29 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Goddamn, 39 minutes in at ABC, FINALLY George Will gets to raise Clinton name’s in connection with offices that require resignation for moral failings. OMG the hypocrisy from the Democrats on this. And wow did Raddatz change the subject post haste...


49 posted on 11/18/2012 6:46:31 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Wallace wondering where is Hitlary?

She claimed responsibility for Bengazigate from somewhere in South America, and has been awol ever since. Will she have to testify?

Woodward wondering “what did Susan Rice know, and when did she know it?” Clever bastard. Doesn’t think it is yet time for “Watergate style hearings”

Now I know why he was on the panel.


50 posted on 11/18/2012 6:47:16 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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