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Ted Cruz: Im pretty certain Mitt Romney actually French-kissed Barack Obama
Conservatives4Palin ^ | November 17 2012 | Doug Brady

Posted on 11/17/2012 7:28:15 PM PST by Bratch

Heh. Too funny to pass up, and sadly apt given the Mittster’s “the president exudes an air of likability and friendliness, which is endearing” nonsense.

Cruz said that conservatives failed to make their case to the American  people, leaving Romney no choice but to move toward the president. “We didn’t  win the argument, we didn’t even make the argument” throughout much of 2012,  Cruz said.

But in the first debate, he argued, that changed.

“It was the one time we actually contested ideas, presented two viewpoints  and directions for the country,” he said. “And then inevitably, there are these  mandarins of politics, who give the voice: ‘Don’t show any contrasts. Don’t rock  the boat.’ So by the third debate, I’m pretty certain Mitt Romney actually  French-kissed Barack Obama.

“I have no doubt that there is a focus group somewhere of undecided Ohio  voters who have been living in a cave for the last 30 years, who decided they  liked that,” Cruz continued. “‘Don’t show any disagreement whatsoever with the  president. Don’t rock the boat. Just be a nice guy.’”

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Cruz said centrist strategies were doomed to fail Republicans, who should  instead focus on a simple motto: “Our ideas work. Theirs don’t.”

I can’t disagree with any of that. Senator-elect Cruz, like Governor Palin, tells it like it is and isn’t one to make nice with those on the Left who are hell-bent on turning American into an also-ran. Democrat-lite loses every time it’s tried, and those in the GOP Establishment who continue to argue for that approach must be ignored if the Republican Party is to survive.

Conservatism didn’t lose on November 6th, it wasn’t even advocated. Ted Cruz has a “Palinesque” knack for using humor to get his point across. The more I learn about him, the more I like the guy. The Governor hit a home run with her “game-changing” endorsement of Cruz in his race against the GOPe’s preferred candidate, David Dewhurst.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; obama; romney

1 posted on 11/17/2012 7:28:23 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Ted Cruz for President!


2 posted on 11/17/2012 7:29:54 PM PST by woweeitsme
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To: Bratch

Won’t Chris Christie be jealous!


3 posted on 11/17/2012 7:30:56 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Bratch

As long as I live, I will never understand Romney’s 3rd debate. He acted like he did not want to win.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 7:34:10 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Bratch

Cruz said centrist strategies were doomed to fail Republicans, who should instead focus on a simple motto: “Our ideas work. Theirs don’t.”

Can’t be said enough!


5 posted on 11/17/2012 7:34:29 PM PST by GoDuke
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To: woweeitsme

Palin/Cruz

:-))))


6 posted on 11/17/2012 7:40:02 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - both were a coup d'etat.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I agree. Watching that debate, I thought Obama was terribly behind in the race. He was flailing to score points, Romney just took it all, and didn’t hit Obama on much of anything, other than a repeat of economic failures. It is clear now he was still behind at that stage, and that makes no sense.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 7:40:02 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Bratch

The GOP-e has let the MSM trash the brand. It’s over for at least a generation.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 7:41:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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BREAKING: Hotel cleaners at Mitt’s last reservation found what appears to be a spine. Mitt has yet to claim it.

Film at 11


9 posted on 11/17/2012 7:42:35 PM PST by Kolath
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To: The_Media_never_lie

He thought he had it in the bag and was trying not to make any waves at all, I assume.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 7:43:32 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: woweeitsme

Wasn’t he born in Canada?


11 posted on 11/17/2012 7:47:26 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Bratch

Romney had the air of “I’ve made my case. I don’t need to knock Obama down on his butt”. He acted as if he were the incumbent, and big media conservatives came out with a thousand hosannas. The slobberfest was a little embarrassing to watch.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 7:47:51 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Bratch

Sure looks presidential. And I sure think it’s time we moved away from GOPe. Cruz had to fight the Bush/Rove wing. Dewhurst his primary opponent had all the right GOP endorsments. Cruz had TEA and Sarah.

We might need to keep our eye on this guy.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 7:49:53 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Forget it, Cruz was born in Canada, not eligible for POTUS.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 7:50:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

American citizen mom, foreign father dad. Seems like i’ve heard this saga before. So he’s eligible now,, precedent set if we need it. I say his citizenship is natural born, through his citizen mother, no matter where she had him. He never had to become naturalized to be a citizen.

And there is no codified law, or definition of NBC in the constitution that says differently.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 7:59:02 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Paladin2

To ignore the GOP establishment means to ignore all Bushes in the future—that means Jeb and his son George P. The Bush’s are the ultimate establishment Rinos.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 7:59:33 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Bratch

LOL

Ted Cruz

You da man...


17 posted on 11/17/2012 7:59:42 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

This Romney-bashing is ridiculous, when in fact he ran well ahead of his party from coast to coast. The party pulled down Romney, not the other way around. Check the senate disasters in both red and blue states.

As to the 3rd debate, Romney’s polls had him up. He wanted to avoid another set-up by the MSM to hurt him on Libya, as Candy Crowley had done with Axelrod in the 2nd debate. Moreover, it was a tactical decision to come after Obama from the left on several foreign policy items to help close the gender gap and keep the hard Left at home - disgusted w Obama over the economy and rationalizing that Romney wouldn’t be a hard liner on foreign policy.

This was a strategy much like Reagan vs Carter: reassure women he wasn’t a warmonger.

We now know that Obama’s ground game was so superb that it didn’t matter how awful Obama was in the debates.

The bottom line in 2012: Romney was better than his own campaign; unfortunately Obama’s campaign was much better than Obama. Incredibly better.

Out 120 million votes, a switch of 432,000 votes in 5 states and Mitt would now be president-elect.

Yes, in retrospect the tactical decision for the 3rd debate was a terrible mistake, then compounded by Sandy, but is has to be seen in context at that moment.

And Romney made the 3rd debate decisions himself, because he was livid w Candy Crowley and didn’t want to get railroaded again.

I am still studying the various specifics of the vote. I have a suspicioun that evangelicals yet again didn’t bother to vote, probably because of Mormonism, and I hope every one of them loses his job in the next 12-18 months as we enter the double dip. Idiots.

It’s unbelievable that this nation would re-elect this thug and ignorant juvenile delinquent. We are in deep trouble.


18 posted on 11/17/2012 8:01:12 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: dfwgator


Personal life

Cruz was born and spent the first four years of his life in Calgary before his parents returned to Houston. His father was jailed and tortured by the Fulgencio Batista regime and fought for Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution[39] but "didn't know Castro was a Communist" and later became a staunch critic of Castro when "the rebel leader took control and began seizing private property and suppressing dissent."[40] Rafael Cruz moved to Austin in 1957 to study at the University of Texas. He spoke no English and had $100 sewn into his underwear.[41] The elder Cruz worked his way through school as a dishwasher making 50 cents an hour. Cruz’s mother, who was from Delaware, was the first person in her family ever to attend college. She earned a degree in mathematics from Rice University in Houston in the 1950s, working summers at Foley’s and Shell. Cruz has said, "I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist."[42]

Cruz and his wife, Heidi Nelson Cruz, have two daughters, Caroline Camille and Catherine Christiane. Cruz met his wife while working on the George W. Bush presidential campaign of 2000. Cruz's wife is currently head for the Southwest Region in the Investment Management Division of Goldman, Sachs & Co. and previously worked in the White House for Condoleezza Rice and in New York as an investment banker.[43][44]






19 posted on 11/17/2012 8:05:19 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

The constitution says Natural Born Citizen and doesn’t define it. That is left to legislation.

And then Title 8 of the USC- lists several ways of being a citizen- all of which are considered natural born and eligible for President.
One of them is-

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)”

He would be ruled eligible by the USSC. There simply is no codified law that makes him ineligible.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 8:06:35 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

ROMNEY IS AND WAS A RINO.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 8:06:57 PM PST by mirkwood (let it burn)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Jack F. Kemp acted like that too with “my friend” algore.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 8:07:50 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, they must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Bratch

Mantra for the Independents: “Don’t rock the boat.”

It was the Independents who didn’t bother to vote. They must have stayed home election night drunk as usual.


23 posted on 11/17/2012 8:08:37 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: dfwgator
Forget it, Cruz was born in Canada, not eligible for POTUS.

His mother was natural born citizen. Was Cuban-born father a citizen in 1970 when he was born?

Now that we have a Prez whose father was never a US citizen the natural born thing has effectively been rendered without the force it otherwise would have.

Think McCain's eligibility having been born in Panama.

Why should we be held to constitutional interpretations that somehow no longer seem to apply to Democrats?

I say if he wants to run I dare (D)'s to try to challenge his eligibility without opening up everything about Obama at the same time.

FReegards!


24 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:17 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Tennessee Nana
See how Texas acts when we have a Conservative on the ballot? Santorum and Gingrich were both way past dropping out by the time we had a say in the primaries.

We are the Republicans biggest Electoral block yet we get nothing but GOP-e thinned out choices time after time.

25 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:29 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: mwl8787

“We now know that Obama’s ground game was so superb that it didn’t matter how awful Obama was in the debates.”

Obama’s team actually worked hard. Romney thought he could just spend millions of dollars to turn on a few ads here and there along with some campaign spots and that would be enough to win.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 8:16:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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To: Agamemnon

There are two levels of citizenship discussed in the Constitution. You must be a citizen to be in Congress or Senate. (meaning naturalized is ok)
And you must be natural born to be president or VP.

If you are endowed with citizenship simply by being born, like Cruz, you are a natural born citizen.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.


27 posted on 11/17/2012 8:20:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ari-freedom
That ground game was voter fraud on a scale only history will tell us, if we live that long. When the republicans didn't deal with voter fraud by 2004 and pass voter ID laws? I knew we may be in an irreversable slide toward a second amendment solution.
28 posted on 11/17/2012 9:05:41 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: DesertRhino

Very interesting compilation of points. I would suppose that the written authority ‘... to create law regarding naturalization.’ might be taken/meant to be under your points cause of/for establishment of a person being a ‘natural born citizen’. However I don’t believe the personal conditions listed legally and explicitly close the Constitutional gap between plain/ordinary ‘citizen’ and ‘natural born citizen’ or have been given authentication by any legislation towards that objective.


29 posted on 11/17/2012 9:10:47 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Bratch

Conservatives do not lose usually unless they make stupid statements like Todd Akin or Dick Mourdock for example.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 9:26:18 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: Bratch

If Mitt Romney frenched Barry the Liar, what on earth did Crhis Christie do...


31 posted on 11/17/2012 9:30:03 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Agamemnon

You can bet your booty if Cruz was to ever start getting close to the WhiteyHut, the dems would never hesitate in pointing out his parentage as it reflects on the Constitutional NBC.

Just because the dems have no problem flippin off the Constitution, doesn’t mean we should figure its now OK.

It was a priviledge to vote for Cruz, but let’s wait and watch a bit before starting up the Exploratory Committee.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 9:31:18 PM PST by X-spurt (It is time for OFF YOUR FEET and on the gravy-train)
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To: Bratch

The Cruz connections are not a plus, but for his awesome father.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 10:00:39 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Bratch

I think he means the RINOS didn’t help. Not the conservatives.


34 posted on 11/17/2012 10:04:45 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: mwl8787

If we are going to fall, why not get up off our knees and fall from a standing position, standing up for conservative values and policies.

I know where your coming from, but whose fault is it when RINO’s are backed by RINO’s who are willing to crush, marginalize and shut out conservatives, by their silence and clearly by financially starving them.

Wait until next time. Are we going to ever stop with the caving?

This cycle has to end sometime. If we aren’t going to bring forth an authentic, experienced leader, then the Libertarians will grow and deserve to.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 10:18:37 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: mwl8787

Sorry.

your - “you’re”


36 posted on 11/17/2012 10:20:37 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

[ He acted like he did not want to win. ]

No.... he acted like he KNEW he was not going to win..
He knew it.. must’ve been some meetings many don’t know of..
Zero meetings that will never ever be known of..

There is serious evil afoote’.... in the republican party..


37 posted on 11/18/2012 12:47:49 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

He thought he was ahead and wanted to play it safe. The polls were totally off this cycle.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 3:20:32 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: DesertRhino

I was born in New Zealand and Im a naturalized American citizen...

I married an American citizen ...

My son was born 8 months BEFORE I became an American citizen...

Although his father was an American citizen he is not a native born American..

He cant be POTUS because his parents werent both citizens...

OTOH his younger sister can be POTUS because we both were American citizens when she was born...

She IS a native born American..

They both married Americans with American parents so of course their children can all be POTUS...

If anyone here thinks differently then Obama is OK...


39 posted on 11/18/2012 4:55:12 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DesertRhino

Oops correstion to that last post

My son is a native born American and not a natural born American

His younger sister IS a natural born American and she can be POTUS

well in 2 more years when shes 35...

:)


40 posted on 11/18/2012 5:07:41 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bratch

Oh good....another thread to hate on Romney.


41 posted on 11/18/2012 5:11:03 AM PST by carton253
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To: liberty or death

“That ground game was voter fraud on a scale...”

Republican turnout falls off forever, out of a sense that the demons will turn out over 100% of registered voters/receive up to 100% of that vote/kick out poll watchers/punks in front of the polling places/bus in scum from other states with fake utility bills/press button for Repub and vote goes to Obama...

Fraud shall be augmented by millions of Repubs/right-leaning independents never voting again because “voting doesn’t matter; the demons will offset my vote plus another with fraudulent votes.”

Some Republicans will even stay home because they fear that the machine will record them voting the other way. To the extent that happens it’s truly better not to vote.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 10:26:14 AM PST by Kenneth J. Conner (Rezko for Radicals)
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To: hosepipe

hosepipe wrote: There is serious evil afoote’.... in the republican party..

Any grassroots type who made the mistake of traveling to Tampa could even see it in their eyes.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 10:59:53 AM PST by Kenneth J. Conner (Rezko for Radicals)
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To: Bratch

“Our ideas work. Theirs don’t.”

Didn’t Zero say the exact same thing in a speech?


44 posted on 11/18/2012 11:11:21 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Bratch

You can’t run a Mr. Nice Guy campaign against Chicago thug liars and cheats. Going forward, if we are to ever win back the presidency, the media has to be totally ignored and treated as irrelevant.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 11:14:57 AM PST by jersey117
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