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How to un-elect Obama & let House of Reps pick the President (I need to believe this)
SWLA Tea Party ^ | November 16, 2012 | Steve Farber

Posted on 11/17/2012 12:41:56 PM PST by Jo Nuvark

According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College -- then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. In other words -- if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote -- then the House of Reps CAN ...

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1 posted on 11/17/2012 12:42:07 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
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To: Jo Nuvark

yeah this should have happened the first time the noncitizen was “elected”


2 posted on 11/17/2012 12:44:31 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jo Nuvark

This approach relies on the makeup of each state’s house delegation voting a straight party-line.

In the next Congress, what is the count of the states which have a majority of Congresspersons on one side or another?


3 posted on 11/17/2012 12:46:16 PM PST by research99
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To: GOPJ; Current Occupant; Baynative; mnehrling; eeevil conservative; Repub4bush; andyk; defconw; ...

With all 50 states petitioning for secession, could this happen if we MAKE THE CALLS ... PING???


4 posted on 11/17/2012 12:46:19 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Worth a try if nothing but to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth


5 posted on 11/17/2012 12:48:25 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Jo Nuvark

Don’t give the Dems any ideas for the next Presidential Election ,Oh wait, sorry ,2012 was the last Presidential Election


6 posted on 11/17/2012 12:49:14 PM PST by molson209
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To: Jo Nuvark

Um, no.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 12:49:14 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Well, let’s do it.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 12:49:48 PM PST by txhurl (Once you go Asian, you never miss an equation.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

People, Article II and the 12th Amendment say no such thing. Read them. Carefully.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 12:50:33 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Why not? At the least it will drive MSM into hysterics. Barack Obama brings to mind “THe King has no clothes.” He is in incompetent nerd, yet MSM keeps saying he is “cool.” His gaffes are covered-up or minimized while anyone who might be running against him is trashed, lied about, and ridiculed.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 12:52:53 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

If we had a free press who looked to investigate and let the light of truth shine Obama would soon be making his resignation over the Benghazi cover up. Nixon was hounded out of office by the press for the Watergate cover up which is a mere trifle in comparison to Benghazi. Sadly our press has become little more than willing tools of the White House Ministry of Propaganda. I think the US media is more under government control than the German press was in 1933 when Hitler was swept into power.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 12:52:53 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: xjcsa

And you should not give over something to the government that you would not be completely comfortable seeing in the hands of your worst enemy.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 12:53:23 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: xjcsa

It is sad that your comment is the first to mention that.

I think they got confused by the “2/3rds quorum” needed in the house for the case where nobody gets a majority of electoral votes.

But maybe they were just making things up.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 12:55:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jo Nuvark

If this were a real option, wouldn’t it have happened in the election of 1860?


14 posted on 11/17/2012 1:05:14 PM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Jo Nuvark

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.


Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


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MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:

>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified. Here’s What You Can Do: - Here

Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here

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SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin @SarahPalinUSA Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin;@SarahPalinUSA People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing list. Most prominent 'vote fraud site' on the net) > Visit the site- Here

Most of 'Obama Voter Fraud' activity is moving to FaceBook. 'Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers' Here
'Obama Voter Fraud' on FaceBook- Here

Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, emails- Here

Another petition, The 'We The People' petition has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

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'American Thinker'- "..Election stolen." Here-

'WND' List of voter fraud reports Here

'ATLAS SHRUGS' voter fraud list. 'Atlas Shrugs' has a list but cannot link. Contains video of eyewitness pollwatcher who verifies busload of Somalians bussed in, 95% spoke no english. Told to vote Obama. Google 'Atlas Shrugs voter fraud list'

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

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Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!




15 posted on 11/17/2012 1:09:30 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Voter Fraud Links

The American Dream; 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/22-signs-that-voter-fraud-is-wildly-out-of-control-and-the-election-was-a-sham

Town Hall : Obama Lilely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959584/posts

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2957786/posts

Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959877/posts

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012?
http://www.realville-usa.com/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html#!/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html

WND: Here’s How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/?cat_orig=politics

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/


16 posted on 11/17/2012 1:11:29 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Jo Nuvark

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What you can do:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan:

Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. (See contact information below. Please provide others in COMMENTS.)

Send them the press clippings, or personal testimonials of clear vote fraud witnessed. (Statistical aberrations are helpful too like a historical 50% turnout in 2004, 2008 but a 90% turnout in a specific precinct despite an overall LOWER state turnout.)

Demand a public recount AND investigation, with a commitment to fight to replace THEM in the next election if they do not do so.

Email/Phone/Visit EVERY WEEK if not EVERY DAY. This will take weeks of steady pressure to get them to move.
Get your friends and neighbors to do the same.
Contact the OTHER 4 states to do the same as above.
Contact the Governor and the local GOP office with the SAME pressure.
(List of web contacts for each below)

If you are in those states (or know people who are) start attempting to find OTHERS with evidence of fraud. See if you can identify the precinct judges where the statistical aberations occur to pass along to the True the Vote which is set up to sue these entities with Judicial Watch.

Try to visit (or call) your local representative asking for their help to put pressure on. It doesn’t hurt that if they don’t or won’t you make it your goal to find and fund a challenger to them for allow open and honest elections – the fabric of freedom in this country – to not only go unchallenged, but to institutionalized.

Contact your city, state and national media to keep this story alive as well. (Fox News has an email just for this at voterfraud@foxnews.com)

Help us find, fund or coordinate willing lawyers, statisticians, pollsters and activists.

I can not reiterate enough that if this is NOT CHALLENGED NOW, we will could loose the House of Representatives in 2014 and possibly every election forward to massive voter fraud. Imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi reenacting the first two years of Obama’s reign with more Stimulus, Cash for Cars, Solyndra’s and ObamaCare’s.

This fight can not be put off for another election cycle or another day. Or there will no longer be a constitutional America. Put down your foot and make the declaration, “THIS VOTE FRAUD WILL NOT STAND!”

Via SafariWoman at TeamNetworks.net
Here’s contact info for all states:
OHIO:
(614) 466-2655
(877) SOS-Ohio (767-6446)
TTY: (614) 466-0562
TTY Toll-free: (877) 644-6889
E-mail the Agency
180 East Broad Street, 16th Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215
WISCONSIN:
30 W. Mifflin, 10th Floor
Madison, WI
(608) 266-8888
PENNSYLVANIA:
302 N Office Building
Harrisburg, PA 17120
(717) 787-6458
VIRGINIA:
Office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth
1111 East Broad Street, 4th Floor
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 786-2441
Fax: (804) 371-0017
FLORIDA:
Director’s Office (for Elections)
Main Line: (850) 245-6200
Fax Numbers: (850) 245-6217 or (850) 245-6218
Email: DivElections@dos.state.fl.us
Mailing Address:
Department of State
Division of Elections
Director’s Office
Room 316, R. A. Gray Building
500 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
From Christa Schauf:
THIS PHONE LIST IS COMPLETE FOR ALL 50 STATES http://teapartyorg.ning.com/page/house-of-representatives

House of Representatives
U.S Capitol Switchboard – 202-224-3121
STATE GOVERNORS
(1) Rick Scott, Governor of Florida
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/

(2) John R. Kasich, Governor of Ohio
http://governor.ohio.gov/Contact/ContacttheGovernor.aspx

(3) Bob McDonnell, Governor of Virginia
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm

(4) Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin
govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
(5)Tom Corbett, Governor of Pennsylvania
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html

(6) Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan
(1) Mitt Romney
http://www.mittromney.com/forms/suggestions

(2) Republican National Committee
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/Fox

News
(3) National Republican Senatorial Committee
http://www.nrsc.org/contact-us/

(4) National Republican Congressional Committee
E-mail: website@nrcc.org
(5) FOX News
foxnewstips@foxnews.com
(6) FOX News
Friends@foxnews.com
(7) Rush Limbaugh
ElRushbo@eibnet.com
(8) Mark Levin
http://www.marklevinshow.com/contactus.asp

(9) Shawn Hanity
http://www.hannity.com/contact

(10) Laura Ingraham
http://www.lauraingraham.com/help

(11) Michelle Malkin
Email: writemalkin@gmail.com
(12) Newt Gingrich
http://www.newt.org/contact/

Petitions for Recount!
Petition to Congress
Petition to White House
Petition to GOP
Petition to FEC
Petition to Count Denied Military Votes

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17 posted on 11/17/2012 1:13:04 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: patriot08

Still, Romney was a loser.


18 posted on 11/17/2012 1:14:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jo Nuvark
According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College -- then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President.

Sorry to disappoint - BUT that is NOT what Article II OR the 12th Amendment say. The ONLY way for the election to get to the House of Representatives is IF no one gets a majority of the whole number of electors appointed.

If ALL electors were appointed by ALL states, then it would HAVE to end up in a tie [269-269, if only 2 candidates with electoral pledges] in order to get to the House of Representatives. If more than 2 candidates with electoral pledges, then it goes to the House of Representatives ONLY if no candidate gets a MAJORITY of the electoral votes allocated.

If some states refuse to seat their electors - the same applies as in the above paragraph. ONLY with LESS electors that were appointed ...

Article II, Section I states:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice.

This Section was superceded by the 12th Amendment, which states:

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

The ONLY difference in the wording is that Article II, Section I states that the House of Representatives picks from a list of 5 and the 12th Amendment states that the list is 3.

I wish that the person who wrote the article that is the subject of this thread would ACTUALLY READ the Constitution ...

19 posted on 11/17/2012 1:18:53 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: xjcsa; All

Xjcsa is right....I just read them carefully, and its not true. Sorry folks...thhe two thirds being present requirement only applies to congress deciding the president if the electoral vote was a tie, or split with no maajority.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: patriot08

Is there any particular reason you keep posting this over and over and over? After seeing it for what has to be the 300th time it gets rather annoying.

Try posting something different. It’s fun! It’s exciting! It’s NOT ANNOYING.

Thank you.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 1:22:37 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: muawiyah

He lost because of massive voter fraud by the Obama machine.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 1:30:03 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Excerpt of XII Amendment:

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;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.
end snip

Do you honestly think that the states that Obama won want come forward and vote putting him over the 270 Electoral College Votes necessary to win? Hell all of Romney's 206 Electoral Votes could abstain and it wouldn't keep Obama from getting his 270.

Don't believe everything those people in SW Louisiana write about.

23 posted on 11/17/2012 1:30:34 PM PST by deport
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To: Jo Nuvark

This would start a race war. No further comment. LOL


24 posted on 11/17/2012 1:31:31 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: patriot08
He lost because he didn't get enough votes, didn't want them, tried to discourage Republicans from voting for him, and actually never seemed to start his campaign.

Now that doesn't mean Democrats didn't commit vote fraud ~ but they dropped 6.5 million votes from their total in 2008!

I would hope the Republicans had their agents out there as well, and if so, a little more work on their part Obama might well have lost.

Here's a clue for you, next time send us a Republican to vote for.

25 posted on 11/17/2012 1:34:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: deport

Not that it is relevant this year, but if an election goes to the House it is settled not by vote of the Reps but by vote of state delegations.

I recently looked into this, and the GOP have a majority in about 2/3 of the delegations.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 1:55:06 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: muawiyah

Not fair to say that.. You try and go against a media that is an operative of the regime and constantly disparaging you while hyping their boss and covering-up his failures.


27 posted on 11/17/2012 2:00:27 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
The media has always been there. That's one of the reasons candidates run campaigns at great expense. But seriously, I don't follow Democrat media and I don't care. On the other hand, I do know when a candidate isn't campaigning.

Concerning 'FAIRNESS' ~ I am always fair ~ dude lost because he's a loser!

28 posted on 11/17/2012 2:06:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jo Nuvark

bump


29 posted on 11/17/2012 2:12:48 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

[... This would start a race war ...]

Too late... Sharpton, Farakhan and Obama handled that one already.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 2:39:50 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

You have to believe this?

Bohner is busy surrendering to Obama on taxes and immigration.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 2:45:34 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Jo Nuvark

How about someone with some integrity in DC (hmmmm,is there anyone) says “Hey, Barry Soetoro Hussein Barack Obama had a parent who was not a US Citizen. Do we all know what that means? He is not eligible to run for president let alone serve as one. So you’re out Barry! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

No that would be to honest and easy.

Instead we’ll get 4 more years of hell.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 3:20:46 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( Laissez les mal temps rouler! 1451 days until Nov.8,2016)
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To: patriot08

Agree. Massive individual fraud and even more by vote machine tampering of numbers.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 3:22:29 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( Laissez les mal temps rouler! 1451 days until Nov.8,2016)
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To: Jo Nuvark

So let’s say a third of the states actually do this, then it’s up to the GOP controlled House, right?

Does anyone really believe those spineless people born of unwed mothers would even consider electing anyone other than obama?

I believe the next in line after President and VP is the Speaker Of The House, so let’s assume they elect Boehner. Another Bush RINO that has already declared obamacare law of the land. This poor excuse of a representative of freedom would be worse than Romney.


34 posted on 11/17/2012 3:40:36 PM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: xjcsa

Clause 3: Electors

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse [sic] by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse [sic] the President. But in chusing [sic] the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.

(Note: This procedure was changed by the Twelfth Amendment in 1804.)

In modern practice, each state chooses its electors in popular elections. Once chosen, the electors meet in their respective states to cast ballots for the President and Vice President. Originally, each elector cast two votes for President; at least one of the individuals voted for had to be from a state different from the elector’s. The individual with the majority of votes became President, and the runner-up became Vice President. In case of a tie, the House of Representatives could choose one of the tied candidates; if no person received a majority, then the House could again choose one of the five with the greatest number of votes. When the House voted, each state delegation cast one vote, and the vote of a majority of states was necessary to choose a President. If second-place candidates were tied, then the Senate broke the tie. A quorum of two-thirds applied in both Houses: at least one member from each of two-thirds of the states in the House of Representatives, and at least two-thirds of the Senators in the Senate. This procedure was followed in 1801 after the electoral vote produced a tie, and nearly resulted in a deadlock in the House.

The Twelfth Amendment introduced a number of important changes to the procedure. Now, Electors do not cast two votes for President; rather, they cast one vote for President and another for Vice President. In case no Presidential candidate receives a majority, the House chooses from the top three (not five, as with Vice Presidential candidates). The Amendment also requires the Senate to choose the Vice President from those with the two highest figures if no Vice Presidential candidate receives a majority of electoral votes (rather than only if there’s a tie for second for President). It also stipulates that to be the Vice President, a person must be qualified to be the President.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 5:32:12 PM PST by markp922
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To: Jo Nuvark

36 posted on 11/17/2012 5:37:11 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Jo Nuvark

Don’t count on it.

With crybaby Boehner as the Speaker and too many weak-spined pantywaists afraid of being called “RAYYYYYYYYCIST!!!!” it’ll never happen.

If we had Men in the House - that is, people with spines and Patriot hearts, yes. As it stands though...I’d sooner bet on Gilligan and the Professor finally figuring out how to patch a hole in a boat and getting off the island.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 8:59:59 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

No, if there is an electoral college tie, then the House of Representatives votes, in which case a 2/3’s quorum is needed. Since there is unlikely to be a tie in the electoral college vote in December, this doesn’t apply. If elected Electoral College voters don’t show up to vote, that is a violation of Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 and the Courts could order them to show up to vote.

So as attractive as the thought is to be able to avoid another 4 years of Obama, this reading of Article II, Section I, Clauses 2 & 3 is thoroughly flawed. The authors analysis is plain wrong.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 10:51:22 PM PST by IAmTheTeaParty
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To: Jo Nuvark

The 12th amendment does supersede the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 but the point is still the same... the 2/3 quorum only applies to the electing of the President if there were an electoral tie. This purpose is to make sure Congress is duly represented before the vote can take place if this were to occur, again, since there is unlikely to be an electoral tie when those votes are cast in December, this tactic does not apply at all. Even if there were a tie though, the 2/3 quorum, again, is to make Congress wait until enough people are present to vote, not a tool that could be used to avoid a vote. The electors could simply be ordered by the courts to complete their Constitutionally mandated duty to cast their vote, as specified in II, 1, 2.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 10:51:34 PM PST by IAmTheTeaParty
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To: TheConservativeParty

Exactly!
4 years ago they all knew soetoro is not elig and they could have stopped him from running for the presidency but they didn’t. When soetoro was ‘elected’ illegally, they could have stopped him by objecting during the electoral vote count certification, but they didn’t.

States were silent on this issue as well back in 2008.

Now they all (including the conservative ‘leaders’ and tea party leaders) let him run again, deluding themselves that they will win election over usurper obozo and gang’s rampant voter fraud

Whom can we blame?

If they didn’t do it 2 elections ago there is not a chance in hell they will do anything now, state officials or congress.

We probably have to be dragged to rock bottom with them, then maybe they will be mad enough, wake up and throw them all out!


40 posted on 11/18/2012 4:24:42 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: molson209

This is the aching result of allowing anyone not a land owner to vote, and anyone but a proven christian to run for elective office. Our founding fathers knew what they were doing. But spoiled andadolescent America is in full glandular revolt! Tragic, but true.


41 posted on 11/18/2012 11:44:52 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: chrisnj

Yes, they all know he’s ineligible and they were too weak to say so in 2008. They figured he’d never get re-elected and they were wrong. The TEA Party turnout for 2010 so scared the dems that they ramped up the fraud for 2012 and they stole the election. They’ll get away with that too. “They don’t call them The Stupid Party for nothing” still holds true. The dems are emboldened to rig vote machines from here on out.

It appears that Col.West is the only real man left in politics who will contest vote fraud.

I mean how hard is it to point out that Barky is not a natural born citizen? He says so in his own voice on his audio book when he talks about his Kenyan father. Who gives a rat’s patoot about where he was born(that’s just icing on the cake) when Barky himself proclaims far and wide that his dad was a foreigner?

Surely if InterWeb chat rooms (ducks to avoid thrown fruit) know he’s ineligible (for several reasons) those overpaid crooks in DC know he’s a usurper. But no! Not a one of them wants to risk being called the R word “racist”. They’re all as gutless as cry baby Boehner.

We’ve been researching Zero’s ineligibility for 5 years on FR. He’s ineligible and that’s that.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 6:08:26 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Barky's evil deeds: terrorism is alive, but The Twinkie is dead. 1450 days until Nov.8,2016)
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To: research99

Republicans will control 27 of the 50 delegations in the next Congress.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 6:33:36 PM PST by nd76
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