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What should a woman do when a man exposes himself?(WA)
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 | Dave Workman

Posted on 11/17/2012 5:33:58 AM PST by marktwain

You’re a mom on an evening walk with your 6-year-old son and you are suddenly approached “aggressively” by a man who exposes himself and then suggests that you stand there and watch what’s next, so what do you do?

In Longview, a Clark County community near Vancouver along the I-5 corridor, you reach into your pocket, pull out your Ruger .380 ACP semiautomatic, and tell the fellow rather bluntly, “You need to leave or I’ll shoot you. I’m going to blow your brains out.”

The fellow left, with the woman’s Norwegian Behund Hound hot on his heels. According to the Longview Daily News, the unidentified woman hadn’t carried her gun in the past to the park, but this time around she brought it along because it was foggy and dark, and she “just had a feeling.”

KVI’s John Carlson had quite a chat about this incident Friday morning with Portland’s Lars Larson, the syndicated conservative talk host who has latched onto this story due to its proximity. The incident happened at Lake Sacajawea near the Martin Dock, and the sleazebag who apparently did this may just be a known sex offender.

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As the victim is a woman, she will not be prosecuted for something that a man likely would be. If this had happened to a man, they would likely be accused of "homophobia" and charged with assault. It is a long standing tradition in this country that women be treated more leniently than men.

I am not saying that the woman acted improperly. I am merely stating the obvious, that a man who did what she did would likely be in legal trouble.

1 posted on 11/17/2012 5:34:09 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The law takes into account one’s ability to defend oneself. Whereas a man’s physical strength may be enough to counter the threat, a woman, generally physically weaker than a man, might need added protection.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 5:41:17 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: marktwain

If this was san francisco, the woman would be prosecuted for violating the right of the flasher to expose himself.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 5:41:31 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: marktwain

What should a woman do when a man exposes himself?
___________________________________________

Point and laugh

as you get your gun out with the other hand..


4 posted on 11/17/2012 5:42:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: marktwain

Would the man in your hypothetical also have a small child with him? This was probably the real target in the real incident. And...there aren’t too many men who would be threatened by a woman exposing herself.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 5:42:26 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: marktwain
I hear hornet spray works better than pepper spray because it will shoot farther and more accuratly.
6 posted on 11/17/2012 5:43:58 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Mamzelle

Suppose the woman was Hillary? Or the wookie?


7 posted on 11/17/2012 5:44:06 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: marktwain

This article is rife with inaccuracies. They should have looked at a map first before publishing.

First, Longview WA is NOT in Clark County.

I live in Longview and it is in Cowlitz County. Lake Sacajawea is a National Historical site and a very beautiful park that unfortunately attacts criminals.

The State of Washington dumps many sexual offenders here because the creeps request to be located here. There is an interstate bridge between Longview and Rainier, OR, which means easy access to the State of Oregon where sex offenders can prowl and offend, then cross back over the border.

By the way, some man pulls that stunt with me, I will first laugh and point causing his privates to shrivel to the size of raisins, then pull out my Ruger and shoot his raisins off.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 5:45:12 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: PapaNew

Also, there was a child involved. Thank God she had an equalizer.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 5:45:35 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: marktwain

Pull a David Niven and say:

Well, that was almost bound to happen... But isn’t it fascinating to think that probably the only laugh that man will ever get in his life is by stripping off and showing his shortcomings?”


10 posted on 11/17/2012 5:47:18 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: marktwain

When my mom was 12 y.o. a guy flashed her from his car. She took the license number, told her dad who was a police officer. He took one or two coworkers and gave the guy a delivery of knuckle sandwiches.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 5:48:58 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

If the woman were Hillary or the Wookie the man exposing himself would be in a limp state, he would probably be nauseous and possibly Flatulent.

Definitely dissapointed, and possibly suicidally depressed.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 5:50:41 AM PST by Venturer
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To: fishtank

That was in the 1940s in a land called America.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 5:51:41 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: marktwain

If you have a jar of pickles in your pocket book, take one out and show him a gherkins.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 5:55:14 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: PapaNew
The law takes into account one’s ability to defend oneself. Whereas a man’s physical strength may be enough to counter the threat, a woman, generally physically weaker than a man, might need added protection.

That's a very outdated standard. There are many women who are stronger than the average man, and strength isn't the only factor in a fight anyway. Besides, if a man fails to block a blow at a certain target, his strength advantage will be severely reduced if not neutralized.

To look at it another way, if a woman knew martial arts, the law would never consider that as a reason to forbid her to pull a gun based on this standard, especially since she may have no idea what else that guy might do. So, why apply that standard to a man?

15 posted on 11/17/2012 5:55:35 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"Point and laugh as you get your gun out with the other hand.."

Exactly! Or you could say something such as, "oh, you poor thing, you must feel so inadequate!"

16 posted on 11/17/2012 6:00:26 AM PST by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain

Pointing and laughing is a good second act, too.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 6:03:42 AM PST by MortMan (I will be true to my principles.)
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To: marktwain

A guy did that to me in a university library once in grad school. I was gathering books for a paper I had to write and he stepped out from behind the stacks with his zipper open and his willy out. I just pointed and said calmly, “Your pants are open.” He whirled around and vanished behind a row of books, and I went on with my research.


18 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:14 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: CarolinaGOP

As Bernadette Peters said in Pink Cadillac:

Looks like a penis. Only smaller.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 6:17:04 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: marktwain

Cold cock him.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 6:21:05 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: CarolinaGOP

a lot of times the guys who choose to do this have absolutely prodigious parts, and that’s why they do it


21 posted on 11/17/2012 6:25:39 AM PST by babble-on
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To: fishtank

Ah for a return to those glorius days of yesteryear. My dad was a cop in the 50’s and the result would have been the same Where did it all go so wrong.

True story from my dad’s era told to me by his partner at my dad’s funeral: My dad was testifying in traffic court before the magistrate about the guy he had brought in. Both were standing before the bench. The guy blerted out: your lying and spit at him. My dad leveled him in front of the judge. The judge, after looking a bit uneasy, banged his gavel and said: proceed. Today he would still be in jail and would have lost all his assets in a civil suit.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 6:32:45 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Usually the standard is a reasonable person standard - how would a reasonable person under the circumstances defend himself/herself. Again GENERALLY, women are physically weaker than men but as always there are exceptions.


23 posted on 11/17/2012 6:35:03 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

I am an old and frail man these days. I need .357 to protect myself, do you think the law would take this into account?


24 posted on 11/17/2012 6:44:26 AM PST by GreatMan
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To: marktwain

This happened to my wife,about 20 years ago.She looked at him and laughed.


25 posted on 11/17/2012 6:45:00 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: mountainlion
I hear hornet spray works better than pepper spray because it will shoot farther and more accuratly.

True, but would the flasher be patient enough to wait for the woman to dig though the 40 pounds of stuff in her purse to find the spray?

26 posted on 11/17/2012 6:46:10 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: GreatMan

Yes, but all circumstances would need to be taken into account including what type of threat and the law of your particular state.


27 posted on 11/17/2012 6:56:42 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: marktwain

Target practice.


28 posted on 11/17/2012 7:04:13 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
Suppose the woman was Hillary? Or the wookie?

I wouldn't feel threatened by that. Repulsed and mentally scarred - yeah... but not threatened.

29 posted on 11/17/2012 7:05:47 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Point and laugh...”

I laughed at your comment because a family friend of ours did the very same thing you defined. She was sitting in a park (in the daytime)... reading. A man approached and opened up his coat to reveal.. well, you know. She pointed and started laughing OUT LOUD! Then she yelled, “Look how little his _____ is!” He burst into tears and ran away. Now, I’m not saying this is the best approach to a situation like this but in this particular case.. she had the last laugh. Hugs to you, Tenn Nana.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 7:07:36 AM PST by momtothree
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To: mountainlion
I hear hornet spray works better than pepper spray because it will shoot farther and more accuratly.

Combine that with a Bic lighter and you've really got something special.

31 posted on 11/17/2012 7:09:09 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I have a female cousin who is 6’, 200lb and threw the discuss in the Olympics this year. I would love to see this perv try something with her.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 7:10:04 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: marktwain
The fellow left, with the woman’s Norwegian Buhund Hound hot on his heels.

From Wikipedia,

The Norwegian Buhund is a breed of dog of the spitz type. It is closely related to the Icelandic Sheepdog and the Jämthund. The name Buhund is derived from the Norwegian word "bu" which means farm, homestead or mountain hut, where the shepherd lived while looking after his herd in the summer. The Buhund is used as an all purpose farm and herding dog, as well as watch dog.
Photo below for illustrative purposes (i.e., not her particular pooch). Good dog!


33 posted on 11/17/2012 7:18:28 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Suppose it was HELEN THOMAS. Talk about a life-threatening situation...


34 posted on 11/17/2012 7:19:49 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Freedom of speech is delicious. It tastes like chicken.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"Point and laugh

as you get your gun out with the other hand."

Dang....beat me right to it, LOL.

35 posted on 11/17/2012 7:20:11 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: marktwain

Laugh and point.


36 posted on 11/17/2012 7:33:59 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: marktwain

Laugh and point.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 7:34:38 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: marktwain

Laugh and point.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 7:34:48 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: SkyDancer

Pointing and laughing will only send them over the top and they’re likely to come back for revenge. Best to shoot it off and save future victims.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 7:37:41 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Charles Martel
I hear hornet spray works better than pepper spray because it will shoot farther and more accuratly.

Combine that with a Bic lighter and you've really got something special.

BBQ and the smell of burning hair.

40 posted on 11/17/2012 7:46:07 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rfreedom4u

I heard of a factory fellow who thought he would get a reaction from an older female co-worker by exposure. She didn’t flinch. She reached down, grabbed it, and started walking. She said, well, that’s nice, let’s go show it off. He was a little sore afterwards because she wasn’t impressed and she wasn’t gentle. He is lucky it was rippied out by the root. LOL


41 posted on 11/17/2012 7:48:25 AM PST by healy61
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To: marktwain

While this woman did everything right, there is one more thing she could have done, which has been shown to be very effective against “weenie-waggers”. A cell phone camera.

In some places, police are now encouraging women who are assailed on buses and subways to take one or more pictures of their assailant, mostly because it erases all doubt in the mind of the police, so they can go into the full “wolf pack” mode to chase down the “crippled small-prong”.

However, that being said, the pervs know that once their picture has been taken, they are severely p0wned, so if you have a camera in one hand, it is a very good idea to have a gun in the other. That is, the perv might rush you to get your camera instead of running away, so may need a few ‘red holes’ to convince him to not do that.

In any event, about the only criticism from police at that point will be about your shot grouping.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 7:48:30 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: GreatMan
I am an old and frail man these days. I need .357 to protect myself

I too am old and also own a .357.

Great little equalizer that.

43 posted on 11/17/2012 8:15:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: momtothree
She was sitting in a park (in the daytime)... reading.

Back in the 60s, my g.f. at the time was sitting on a park bench reading. She had her legs crossed and the top leg bouncing up and down, as females are prone to do and a jogger sprinted by and snatched one of her shoes off and kept running. I told her that she was lucky that he was a relatively harmless pervert/thief.

44 posted on 11/17/2012 8:21:04 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Graybeard58

This is definitely one of those cases that if the police did recover her shoe.... uh, let’s just say she really, REALLY wouldn’t want it back. LOL!!


45 posted on 11/17/2012 8:27:00 AM PST by momtothree
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To: marktwain
“You need to leave or I’ll shoot you. I’m going to blow your brains out.”

Aim about three feet lower.

46 posted on 11/17/2012 8:28:33 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: marktwain
What should a woman do when a man exposes himself?

Point and laugh is always the best response. If you have your wits about you, an "OMG It's so tiny!" with the laughter will disarm your assailant. If you want to go for the home run, use the old David Niven line about a man revealing his shortcomings.

47 posted on 11/17/2012 8:40:09 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: marktwain
...she “just had a feeling.”

There's a lot to be said for human intuition. It's saved my life on more than one occasion.

48 posted on 11/17/2012 11:22:15 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mountainlion
I hear hornet spray works better than pepper spray because it will shoot farther and more accuratly.

I've never seen a can of hornet spray powerful enough to hit someone at ten feet or more, in a bottle small enough to put in your pocket.

49 posted on 11/17/2012 11:31:20 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hugin

“”You need to leave or I’ll shoot you. I’m going to blow your brains out.”

Aim about three feet lower. “

The perv was thinking with his.....well, ......let’s just say if she aimed 3 feet lower she would be pointing at his ankles.


50 posted on 11/17/2012 11:53:07 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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