Skip to comments.Cardinal Dolan: Catholic Church will ‘not obey’ immoral HHS mandate
Posted on 11/16/2012 2:51:21 PM PST by NYer
BALTIMORE, November 16, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The head of Americas Catholic bishops’ conference declared Tuesday that the Catholic Church will not obey the Obama administrations HHS mandate, a policy he classified as immoral.
The mandate, which takes effect in eight months, forces employers to cover sterilizations, contraception, and abortifacient medications. Although churches themselves are exempt the mandate applies to religiously affiliated institutions such as hospitals, colleges, charities, and social service agencies.
Asked if the Church is prepared to close its hospitals and other agencies, or instead pay the exorbitant fines levied for non-compliance, Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York said, The only thing we’re certainly prepared to do is not give in, not violate our consciences, and not obey what we consider to be something immoral.”
“How we do that and what doors would remain open to us to see if there’s some way consonant with our high moral principles to be able to do it, that’s something we’ve got to start to tackle and we’re prepared to tackle, added Dolan, who serves as president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
The prelate noted that the Church had taken a bit of a breather” on the issue before election day because the result “could have changed the playing field.” But in the end, he said, “it didn’t.”
Obamas Republican challenger Mitt Romney had pledged to overturn the mandate within days of taking office.
We better get back to work and decide just what we’re going to do, said Dolan. No door is closed except the door to capitulation.”
Cardinal Dolan was speaking a day after Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore had pledged that the bishops were prepared for a long-term fight for religious freedom in his address as head of the U.S. Bishops religious liberty campaign.
Commenting in the wake of Obamas re-election, Lori said, “In the short- to mid-term the political landscape is the same, but so also is the resolve to eliminate the HHS mandate and most especially the four-part definition that it contains of what constitutes religious activity such that a church or a church institution could qualify for an exemption.”
That four-part definition “draws lines in our mission where we do not draw them, he said.
Asked in a follow-up press conference whether the bishops would be willing to shift their position on the mandate, he said, As it stands certainly we would not be able to live with it.
I think as this evolves, as the rule making process gets a little more clear and as we study this and monitor it, as we see how the court cases are proceeding, then our range of options will probably become a little more clear, he added.
Way good for him, makes me want to convert to the Catholic faith
Yes they will. The Catholic church will crumble and do whatever Obama’s HHS says. The sorry truth is there are a lot of powerful Catholics in these organizations that support Obama - especially at the universities.
Oh good! If my bishop won’t comply, neither will I! Makes me feel less alone in my civil disobedience.
Well, let’s see if they pack the good bishop off to the Gulag, first.
>>Way good for him, makes me want to convert to the Catholic faith
It may come to that, if the mainline Protestant denominations surrender, one by one, to the liberal secular world. (Disclaimer: I’m a Methodist..for now.)
Too bad Cardinal Dolan is in the extreme minority in his church.
About two weeks too late with the announcement. Maybe if we’re luck Obama’s early drug abuse will come back to bite him in the rear. I do not wish ill on anyone (karma is a bitch), but sometimes ...
In my diocese a guide for Catholic voters was distributed. The advice was to vote for candidates who support minimum wage laws and “social justice.” The California proposition to overturn the death penalty was supported. Not one word was mentioned about voting against 0bama and overturning 0bamacare. The priests and bishops are too busy slamming capitalism to really fight 0bama.
Team Obama is probably already calculating the asset value of all the property the Church owns. At the rate we’re going, they’ll be including property seizures and sales as part of their deficit reduction baseline. I exaggerate only slightly. I AM quite confident that many on the left would be delighted if the end game were divestiture of all the Catholic schools, universities, and hospitals.
I don't feel the least bit of sympathy to the USSCB; its position is hypocritical and the Catholic Episcopate has done as much as any other left-wing organization over the last century to damage the United States of America.
Catholic Bishops were solidly behind the Socialist takeover of our healthcare system. The have been consistently blind to the stupidity of their own hierarchy on virtually all economic matters, and even at this very late date still refuse to support the repeal of the PPACA.
The Bishops -- and all other Christian clergymen -- need to learn this lesson, need to learn it hard, and they had better learn it soon, because time is running out:
CAPITALISM is "the preferential option for the poor" that this confused episcopate continues to blather cluelessly on about. There is NO "preferential option for the poor" except capitalism, and all other "options" mean squalor, disease, torture, oppression, and death. Those "options" will be "preferentially" visited on the poor before anyone else, because that's the way it is, if this bunch does not get their heads out of their ... miters ...
They may succeed in carving out a special exemption for themselves that allows them to pretend they've taken a moral course. But the truth of the matter is that the long-term consequences of the PPACA are a violation of fundamental human rights and human dignity across the board, and NOTHING short of its repeal is a "moral path."
You got that 100% right.
Good luck with that, your Eminence...
He WON, dontchaknow know.
Where's the integrity? Seriously. The Bishop wants a special exemption for himself on religious grounds. I have a "Church" of my own (see my homepage) do I get to say that I don't have to pay for contraception and abortions for my employees? You bet I don't.
Please note that Bishop Integrity here does not call for repeal of 0bamacare. Please note that the USCCB does not call for the repeal of 0bamacare. Please note that most Bishops were silent about 0bamacare in the run-up to the election, and Bishop Integrity himself says they took some time off during the election, praying furiously no doubt that they'd get to keep the Socialized Medicine system they lobbied so hard for, but a new HHS Secretary would let them have their special treatment while the rest of us are screwed.
But allot of Catholics will religiously vote Dem.
Makes you wonder what “morality” means to those that do, doesn’t it?
I don't recall hearing much talk from the hierarchy on this issue the last two or three months before the election.
It's curious--I can't seem to find the part where the servant who was entrusted with ten talents and turned them into twenty was told that he should give some of his talents to the servant who had been entrusted with one and did nothing with it. In my copy, the opposite seems to happen.
Indeed, while rich people are advised to use their riches to help others, nowhere do I recall Christ advocating for such people to have their wealth forcibly taken from them for such purposes. I do recall a number of warnings against covetousness, but unfortunately many people who call themselves Christians somehow think that it's noble to encourage those who don't build their wealth, to covet the riches of those who do.
This guy sure looks like a complete jack@ss for inviting Barack Obama to the Al Smith Dinner, doesn’t he?
“In my diocese a guide for Catholic voters was distributed. The advice was to vote for candidates who support minimum wage laws and social justice.
...a good example of why I haven’t seen the inside of a US Roman Catholic church in >20 years. Commandeered by liberals since the late 60’s.
I don’t know where you live, but here in our OKC area diocese, we received scads of articles in our Catholic newspaper for months on end and a pamphlet called “A Voter’s Guide for the Serious Catholic” plus repeated references in homilies during mass, all of which were carefully non-partisan but explicitly pro-life. A normal adult practicing Catholic here would have had a very hard tome claiming ignorance of the issues.
I am in San Diego, CA. Maybe you have a stronger bishop.
Gladly, he isn;t.
Save your soul.....get out of that PARISH!!!
I am a Roman Catholic and I am sad to agree with several posts regarding the silence of the Bishops on Obamacare prior to the election, priests more concerned with ‘social justice’ and too many CINO’s with the Church.
There is a civil war brewing within the Church.
They are gentlemen, first and foremost, and they would never endanger their own cushy little lives for a little thing like Church doctrine.
Excellent!! They should simply ignore Obamacare, and continue to offer the insurance they've always offered, and keep the schools and hospitals open. If Obama insists on taking them on, that's his problem.
Um, no, he isn't. His name was put forth by some younger Bishops when it came time to elect a new President of the Bishop's conference, and he was voted in, with WAY more votes than the candidate who was preferred by the more liberal Bishops, who also, thankfully, happen to be the older ones, and the ones who will be replaced sooner.
He’s new but seems very responsible. I hope he finds us responsible, too, or pushes us in that direction as shepherd. You are in what has been recently described at the Diplomad 2.0 blog as a...very different place from Oklahoma. But whether we must struggle with our local parishes or not, we are all united in faith.
Had it not been for some shameful medieval church shenanigans to protest, Martin Luther would have gotten less traction if he had even cared, and who knows what the face of Christianity would look like today. Anyhow, the ideal and real churches look quite different.
That's what I hope will happen. However, I'm afraid too many of the prelates are either in way over their heads, or worse, are so weak as to be effectively complicit in Obama's plan.
With all due respect Cardinal Dolan,
Your flock overwhelmingly is not listening to you. Now I don’t know if it’s because they think that you will never let them close the schools,hospitals etc. They must think that you will compromise and go along to get along.
However, I am keeping an eye on your decision to see if you too will tip your hand and show all of us what a hypocreten looks like.
Get real. The Al Smith Dinner is a fundraiser for Catholic Charities in the NY Diocese. For the Cardinal to ignore it would have been unthinkable.
If it hadn’t been for the medieval church shenanigans, Martin Luther wouldn’t have felt the need to nail his declaration on the door. Of course, if it hadn’t been for some shenanigans several hundred years earlier, we might all be Orthodox!
“And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
I do not understand how one can claim to be Catholic, yet support any part of this administration.
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Shocking. What diocese was this?
What diocese was that?
San Diego, he says.
I believe it. Bishop Robert Brom is a disaster.
The USCCB is an enemy of human life, human liberty, the Catholic Church, civil society, and the U.S. Constitution. All right-thinking Catholics should declare war on this evil institution, and petition Rome to abolish it.
The Catholic church will crumble and do whatever Obamas HHS says
You are quite wrong about this. They ARE prepared to either close or sell hospitals, schools, etc.
His name was put forth by some younger Bishops when it came time to elect a new President of the Bishop’s conference, and he was voted in, with WAY more votes than the candidate who was preferred by the more liberal Bishops...
Thank you for posting this. It’s nice to see facts rather than knee-jerk reactions. One wonders how often the loudest critics actually pray for their bishops and clergy.
We will ALL have to give an account to the Almighty eventually.
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