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Texas gets failing grade on its gun laws
bizjournals.com ^ | 15 November, 2012 | Tricia Lynn Silva

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:04:13 AM PST by marktwain

The San Francisco-based Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence has released a new report that examines gun laws and violence in all 50 states.

The report, titled “Gun Laws Matter 2012: Understanding the Link Between Weak Laws and Gun Violence,” looks at the relationship between state gun laws and gun violence — as well as assigning a grade to each state based on the strength or weakness of these laws.

Texas’ grade: F.

In fact, the Lone Star State was one of 21 states that received an F in the report.

The center takes issue with the fact that Texas does not require firearms dealers to obtain a state license; it does not allow local governments to regulate firearms; and it does not regulate the transfer or possession of assault weapons, 50 caliber rifles or large-capacity ammunition magazines.

Formerly known as the Legal Community Against Violence, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence is a nonprofit organization. It was founded by Bay Area lawyers in 1993 — just days after an assault-weapon rampage at a law firm in San Francisco left 10 people dead, including the shooter. The workplace shooting also left six others injured.

The full report can be found here.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; democrats; lcpgv; liberalfascism; sanantonio; tx; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: marktwain
San Francisco-based Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence grading Texas gun laws is like Peta reviewing the Taste of Texas restaurant. The outcome is preordained.
41 posted on 11/16/2012 7:52:55 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: marktwain

‘F’, then, stands for FANTASTIC !


42 posted on 11/16/2012 7:55:58 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: marktwain

My state Arizona got an “F” too ... My armed kid can kick your honor students socialists a$$


43 posted on 11/16/2012 8:04:20 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: marktwain

This article is pure crap. Follow the link below to the statistics on murder state by state. For instance California has a murder rate of 4.8 per 100,000 people and Texas has 4.4.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRalpha

The following states have concealed carry without a license and their per capita murder rate per 100,000 people.
Arizona 6.2
Alaska 4.0
Vermont 1.3
Wyoming 3.2

Note: Hawaii has very strict gun control laws and the lowest murder rate in the nation. Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the nation and the second lowest murder rate in the nation. Louisiana has the highest rate and has concealed carry.

Murder in the United States is function of poverty and race and not access to firearms. In fact the rate would be even higher in Louisiana if honest citizens did not have access to legally carry weapons.

It must also be mentioned that gun laws do not mean a damn thing to criminals. They are called criminals because they violate the law. The vast majority of them have priors and legally can not carry a weapon. They carry them anyway because they are criminals.

The only correlation that can be made from the charts (see link) is that states with high percentage of minorities and or high rates of poverty have high murder rates.


44 posted on 11/16/2012 8:09:10 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: clamper1797

BTW bought a new MKA1919 12 gauge yesterday. Just plopped down my money filled out the paperwork (we have to work on removing that requirement too) and walked out with it. AND ... I live across the street from two ... count them ... two schools. So what grade do I get ?


45 posted on 11/16/2012 8:10:07 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: cpdiii

UH OH!!!!
I posted the wrong link:

This is the correct link below:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRalpha


46 posted on 11/16/2012 8:14:05 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: marktwain

Personally, I rather like the Texas gun laws.


47 posted on 11/16/2012 8:29:28 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: marktwain

Note to San Francisco loons-.... you and the horse you rode in on.


48 posted on 11/16/2012 8:31:34 AM PST by Texan5 (No-actually, we do NOT all have to get along...)
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To: marktwain

Liberals don’t like it, then it must be good.

The article said the grade would include something about violence. I guess because of violent crime rates that Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC all got bad grades too??

//sarcasm


49 posted on 11/16/2012 8:52:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

Idaho not only gets an F-, but is probably on double secret probation. Thank heavens I live here. Armed and free.


50 posted on 11/16/2012 9:06:46 AM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: cpdiii; All
Murder in the United States is function of poverty and race and not access to firearms.

states with high percentage of minorities and or high rates of poverty have high murder rates.

I do not think you can support that statement. I do not see the correlation with poverty and high murder rates. Many rural areas have high poverty rates and low murder rates.

I see high correlations with culture and murder rates, but not with poverty and murder rates. Cultural Japanese in the United States (when we kept these statistics) have murder rates slightly less than Japanese in Japan.

So, if you will show me some areas that are *not* made up of minorities, are poor, and have high murder rates, I would like to look at the data.

51 posted on 11/16/2012 9:52:20 AM PST by marktwain
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The San Francisco-based Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Stopped reading right there!

There is absolutely nothing these people can say or think that I would be interested in or want to hear!
52 posted on 11/16/2012 12:02:08 PM PST by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: Donkey Odious
If we can get the Texas legislature to pass a law, like that of Arizona, that will allow concealed carry without a permitting process, maybe we can get and F minus!

It'll never happen as long as RINOcrat, Joe Straus, is Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives. Getting rid of that stealth liberal needs to be Job 1 for Texans.

53 posted on 11/16/2012 12:04:16 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TexanByBirth
There is absolutely nothing these people can say or think that I would be interested in or want to hear!

Not even to laugh at them or mock them? They could never be taken seriously if the MSM were even mildly interested in the truth.

54 posted on 11/16/2012 12:06:39 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
So, if you will show me some areas that are *not* made up of minorities, are poor, and have high murder rates, I would like to look at the data.

Black urban inner cities are rife with crime and poverty. Click on the link for a listing of cities. Take a look at those like Chicago, DC, New Orleans,Houston, Philidelpia, Detroit, Cleveland, Oakland, St. Louis etc. These numbers are from Law Enforcement, Courts, and Prisons U.S. Census Bureau, Statistical Abstract of the United States: 2012 Cut and paste the URL to see full data

The data is there, go for it. www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0309.pdf

Past this link for the top ten dangerous cities.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/1-detroit/

55 posted on 11/16/2012 1:12:58 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

Additional note: The poverty in most cases is a function of the culture or rather break down of culture. Welfare has by and large destroyed the black family and its new culture in the inner cities is dependence on the government. Dependence breds crime and more dependence.


56 posted on 11/16/2012 1:18:18 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

You are stating the same case that I am. What I was asking for was an area of non-minority, (white) that is poor and has high crime rates. It would be a counter example, though of course, it is quite possible that we have created some white subcultures that are as disfunctional as most of the urban black subcultures.


57 posted on 11/16/2012 1:28:25 PM PST by marktwain
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AFAIC, Texas gets an 'A' and San Francisco an 'F.'

Every time I hear these cretins speak I want to go buy another gun and a couple of thousand rounds of ammo, and I would this time, too, except I just bought three new guns! If they're trying to bankrupt me, they're doing a fine job of it.

-Sign me, Stuck in California With 23 Million F'n Cretins.

58 posted on 11/16/2012 3:02:12 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: marktwain
You are stating the same case that I am

Yes I am, we just said things differently.

59 posted on 11/16/2012 3:15:25 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They rate Illinois as “B-”.


60 posted on 11/16/2012 4:07:21 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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