Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Election 2012 Marks the End of Evangelical Dominance in Politics
The Atlantic ^ | 11/13/2012 | Jonathan Merritt

Posted on 11/16/2012 4:57:28 AM PST by darrellmaurina

Ever since Ronald Reagan was elected president in 1980, evangelicals have been a powerful political force. Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority organization were credited in part with Reagan's election, having registered millions of evangelicals to vote. Their influence would only grow over the next 25 years: Evangelicals were instrumental in Reagan's reelection, the Republican Revolution of 1994, and both of George W. Bush's victories. But on November 6, 2012, their reign came to an end.

"I think this [election] was an evangelical disaster," Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, told NPR. He's right, but it wasn't for lack of trying.

The late Falwell's Liberty University gave former governor Mitt Romney its keynote spot at its 2012 commencement and backed off previous language calling Mormonism a "cult." Billy Graham uncharacteristically threw his support behind the Republican candidate, and his evangelistic association bought full-page newspaper ads all but endorsing Romney. Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom Coalition spent tens of millions in battleground states to get out the religious vote.

As a result, 79 percent of white evangelicals voted for Romney on Tuesday. That's the same percentage that Bush received in 2004, and more than Senator John McCain received in 2008. The evangelical vote was 27 percent of the overall electorate -- the highest it's ever been for an election.

Their support wasn't enough. Not only did Obama win soundly, but four states voted to allow same-sex marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; romney; santorum
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last

1 posted on 11/16/2012 4:57:36 AM PST by darrellmaurina
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

Maybe we need better candidates. I don’t know any “evangelicals” who wanted Romney to be the nominee.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 5:03:10 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

So much for the rumor grist that millions of evangelicals stayed home.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 5:04:03 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Exactly, some people really don’t think obama is that bad and they hate mormons.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 5:06:26 AM PST by Tea American Party Patriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; Antoninus; cripplecreek; Lazlo in PA; napscoordinator; ...
Let's hope this obituary for Christian conservatives in politics, like many others before it, is a premature case of “dancing on the grave.”

However, the author has some valid points, key among them being the way in which too many Christian conservatives decided to downplay the seriousness of Mitt Romney's theological aberrations, and the fact that he hasn't even been faithful to his own Mormon conservative values on issues like abortion and gay marriage.

If Christian conservatives keep doing things like that, we deserve what we get.

The fact is that Mitt Romney was not a Christian conservative, wasn't a socially conservative ally of Christian conservatives, and was a terrible choice for the Republican Party. I understand the need for compromise and coalitions in politics, but the result this year was Republicans nominated a man whose main reason for supporting a “pro-choice” position on abortion, and then backing off from it, seems to have been poll data.

I believe the Mormon Church dodged a major bullet this month, and if Mitt Romney had been elected, he would have become the Mormon version of the Kennedy family, injecting liberalism into a prominent position in his church while giving the church a respectability it, like the Catholics before Kennedy, had sought for decades before the election.

I am no Mormon, but if I were a Mormon, I would be a strong opponent of the Mitt Romney-Harry Reid wing of the LDS, and be doing whatever I could to fight it.

5 posted on 11/16/2012 5:08:50 AM PST by darrellmaurina
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Maybe we need better citizens to elect men and women of honor and integrity.

LLS


6 posted on 11/16/2012 5:11:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

“decided to downplay the seriousness of Mitt Romney’s theological aberrations, and the fact that he hasn’t even been faithful to his own Mormon conservative values on issues like abortion and gay marriage.”

Look at black Christians who overlooked Obama’s views on abortion and homosexual “marriage” and voted for him because of his perceived skin color. We all know if Obama were white, he never would have been elected. Never!


7 posted on 11/16/2012 5:13:04 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina
"I think this [election] was an evangelical disaster," Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, told NPR. He's right, but it wasn't for lack of trying.

Mr. Mohler, what did God tell Gideon? Judges 7:2 And the LORD said unto Gideon, "The People that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, Mine own hand hath 'saved' me.'

I take this election as God sifting out more chaff from His wheat. I think Americans are going to have to have their noses rubbed into 'social justice' religious/politics, to figure out God is against the redistribution of wealth. Yes things are going to get harder and more worldly, but, God said I will never leave you nor forsake you, IF!

8 posted on 11/16/2012 5:14:10 AM PST by Just mythoughts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; Antoninus; cripplecreek; Lazlo in PA; napscoordinator; Diamond; ...
One more thing — maybe this development will finally stop the arguments from the economic conservatives that social conservatives need to shut up and not push for our issues because “it's not the right time.”

If we're ever going to reach Hispanic Roman Catholics, it's going to be over social issues like abortion.

Social issues are a major part of what led white evangelicals out of the Democratic Party and into the Republican Party. Social issues are a major part of what led ethnic Catholic blue collar workers in Northern industrial cities to become “Reagan Democrats.”

Frankly, if we really have become a country of “takers” rather than “makers,” we need to appeal to the votes of people who are willing to consider something else to be more important than their pocketbooks.

Religious values have proven their ability to do that in the past.

Next time, let's try to get a candidate who actually believes the religious values he claims to affirm.

9 posted on 11/16/2012 5:18:52 AM PST by darrellmaurina
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

Unfortunately we are stuck with the “citizens” we have. If you can think of how we can get better ones, I’m listening.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 5:25:09 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

“Not only did Obama win soundly, but four states voted to allow same-sex marriage”

ZERO won because hispanics are totally ignorant of their Catholic faith and most would rather have free government handouts than work for a living. That, combined with mass voter fraud, elected the worst president in American history to a second term. Romney said he would find jobs for American, ZERO said more handouts. Free stuff wins every time.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 5:29:30 AM PST by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet; wagglebee; little jeremiah; AmericanInTokyo; Lazlo in PA; cripplecreek; Antoninus; ...
11 posted on Fri Nov 16 2012 07:29:30 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by NKP_Vet: “ZERO won because hispanics are totally ignorant of their Catholic faith and most would rather have free government handouts than work for a living. That, combined with mass voter fraud, elected the worst president in American history to a second term. Romney said he would find jobs for American, ZERO said more handouts. Free stuff wins every time.”

I think we agree.

Very similar things could have been said about Southern rural whites from the Great Depression until at least the 1970s and probably well into the 1980s. The old Democratic Party coalition depended on the ability of people like LBJ to give poor rural whites lots of “free stuff” to buy their votes.

The Democratic coalition broke down for many reasons, but social conservatives were a major part of that breakdown.

I believe the same thing can be done with Hispanics. The modern Republican Party is not anti-Catholic, and there are lots of conservative Catholics who are well-positioned to reach out to their socially conservative Hispanic Catholic fellow believers.

While it will be much harder, as more blacks become businessmen, it may be possible to split off enough black voters to deny Democrats a majority in close races. Conservative black pastors fighting homosexuality need to be encouraged as much as possible in that regard. The way in which Democrats fight tooth-and-nail against people like Congressman West show how concerned Democrats are that some prominent conservative black leaders will gain traction. If they're worried as Democrats, we should view that as a sign of their weakness and our opportunity. But short term, we've got a lot better opportunity with Catholic Hispanics and with the growing population of evangelical and charismatic Hispanics.

12 posted on 11/16/2012 5:40:46 AM PST by darrellmaurina
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
I don’t know any “evangelicals” who wanted Romney to be the nominee.

Me either.

Those numbers are based on exit polling. Has everyone forgotten the exit polls of 2004? Everybody voted for president Kerry according to those polls.

13 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:47 AM PST by Holly_P
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
...hispanics are totally ignorant of their Catholic faith...

Not much of a faith, then.

14 posted on 11/16/2012 6:08:06 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina
If we're ever going to reach Hispanic Roman Catholics, it's going to be over social issues like abortion.

The odd comments of many bishops to the contrary notwithstanding, socialism, homosexuality, and abortion are anathema to the Catholic faith. Conservatives in general, and particularly Protestant conservatives, must learn to make the case that voting for conservative candidates and conservative issues is the authentically Catholic thing to do.

15 posted on 11/16/2012 6:15:48 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

Freeloaders, breast implants and condoms are the top dog now.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 6:26:11 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina
The last time the Republicans won 40% of that vote was in 1956, before the massive immigration wave and when the Eisenhower Administration rigorously enforced immigration laws. The Mexican-American population was either descended from pre-U.S. settlers in the Southwest or 1910s-1920s refugees from the Mexican Civil War and its aftermath. They had been in the country for at least a generation and in some cases, notably faithful Catholics who fled during the Cristeros War, were politically conservative. Never since that time have Republicans won more than a third of that vote nationally.

The loss of white Southerners from the Democrat coalition was due to three factors: the increasing urbanization and prosperity of the South after World War II; the support the Democrats outside the South gave to affirmative action and school busing; and the appeasement of Communists and (after 1979) Muslim extremists by Johnson and Carter. With middle class incomes and greater creature comforts, white Southerners had less need for government cheese. Unless Hispanic-Americans prosper economically as white Southerners did, or can be set against black Americans politically, a similar turning is unlikely. With the Democrats running the White House and Senate for another four years, the chances for a rising economic tide lifting all boats are not promising.

Even prosperity is no assurance that members of particular ethnic groups will vote in their own economic self-interest. A case in point is the Jewish voters, of whom it is said that they earn like Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans. Even with Romney being a strong friend of Israel and Obama questionable at best on this matter, almost 70% of Jewish voters supported the Democrat. Another example is the Asian vote. The increase in Asian-Americans post-1965 parallels that of Hispanics, although the former group's percentage is smaller relative to the overall population. Asians are far more likely to enter the professions and own businesses than Hispanics and the income levels of many Asian ethnic groups exceed the average for whites. Yet, like the Hispanics and the Jews, about 70% voted for Obama.

Some 85% of Muslim voters supported Obama, only a slight drop from the 89% he garnered four years ago.

It appears that white Protestant, Catholic, and Mormon voters represent the only base conservatives and Republicans have, and a shrinking one due to low white birth rates, higher minority birth rates, legal and illegal immigration, and the conversion of people from white Christian backgrounds to secular humanism, agnosticism, and atheism. At best, this country is on its way to becoming a European style social democracy; at worst, a cauldron like South Africa or Zimbabwe, where the formerly dominant whites are persecuted and killed.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 6:51:43 AM PST by Wallace T.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: darrellmaurina

When the GOPe figures out they can get more votes when voters choose “who you are” instead of “who you are not”, they may win another election. I am not anticipating that ever happening.

Muslim or Mormon
Democrat or Former Democrat
Federal Mandated Healthcare or State Mandated Healthcare

See anything wrong with the choices we had?

Got me excited/s


18 posted on 11/16/2012 7:01:53 AM PST by nomobs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
Get involved in your local school district. Pressure for changes in curriculum. By example and word, teach the laws of GOD to man. There is a good start.

LLS

19 posted on 11/16/2012 7:44:12 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

I attended a Christian college back in the early 70s and as part of our community service, we went to the local elementary school every week and did a Bible lesson. The teachers loved it because they got a break and the kids loved it. It was a public school and no one complained. Can you imagine that being allowed these days?


20 posted on 11/16/2012 7:50:30 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson