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As if health care in the U.S. didn't have enough problems... here comes ObamaCare.

RomneyCare in MA already shows the strain of access to healthcare. 'Tis the future of ObamaCare or single-payer (government-paid) "planned economy" of health care.

Some doctors already understand what's coming: "Coverage" and "access" are not the same thing, when it takes months or a year to see primary care physician.

But the people of MA wanted it, and Romney said it was good for MA. They were told about the "coverage" part, nobody told them about the "access" part, which is basically rationing of health care and hits mostly those who can least afford to pay?

1 posted on 11/15/2012 12:55:51 AM PST by CutePuppy
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Liberals must think money and doctors grow magically from trees.


2 posted on 11/15/2012 12:57:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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I say, Good. Dying in the gutter, whether from a brick to the head, from war in Syria, from a Muslim dirty bomb, from hyperinflation and empty stores, from the disappearance of doctors—in other words, all the things the Obama voters voted for—is the only way morons who vote for Democrats will wake up.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 1:05:12 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're for sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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“Doctor Shortage Could Cause Health Care Crash”

of course it will.

(doctors won’t stay in the US to get taxed to the hilt... making no money... instead going go overseas for 6 months out of the year)

next question


5 posted on 11/15/2012 1:10:54 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Just watch all the minority doctors that quickly get minted in the next several years . . . .


6 posted on 11/15/2012 1:22:46 AM PST by Bertha Fanation
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I'm trying to recall a Clintoon policy which CLOSED MEDICAL Schools... and I expected this shortage!

Anybody else remember that, or was it a dream?

11 posted on 11/15/2012 1:47:16 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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Uh... let’s see... work my arse off as an undergrad to get into a good medical school... work my arse off in med school to get an internship... work my arse off as an intern so I can get a residency... work my arse off as a resident so I can spend the rest of my life being dictated to by some government commissar about what I can and can’t do, what I can and can’t charge...?

Uh... nah, don’t think so!

Thanks to socialized medicine, there will be far fewer doctors in future, and an explosion of patients getting in on all that subsidized healthcare.

Good luck getting in the door of any hospital in America with an urgent problem.

Healthcare in the US id officially f*cked.


12 posted on 11/15/2012 1:59:18 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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Doctors will be replaced by computers. You enter your symptoms and the computer spits out a prescription.


17 posted on 11/15/2012 2:18:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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Oh! Now the media tells us!


18 posted on 11/15/2012 2:21:30 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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This is all very logical from the Dem Ideologue’s point of view.

1. There are too many people on Gaia, (Earth), using up the resources.
2. American are the most resource abusing people.
3. We must stop them from using to many resources for Gaia’s sake.

Solution: Make as many of them die as possible.
2nd Solution: Make the method a law and the Sheeple will follow it especially if it takes years to do so.

Problem: If we do it overtly they Sheeple will fight back and stop us from achieving our goals.

And now we have Obamacare, Gaia will be saved.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 2:46:06 AM PST by The Working Man
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"Coverage" and "access" are not the same thing, when it takes months or a year to see primary care physician.

That's exactly right. "Health care reform" -- whether in Massachusetts through Romneycare or in the U.S. under Obamacare -- was never about providing more health care to people. It was about forcing people to buy insurance whether they wanted to or not. That's why the insurance industry basically wrote Obamacare ... because a system where coverage is mandated while access is limited is an insurance company's dream.

23 posted on 11/15/2012 3:08:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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My GP says he’ll retire in the next year and he’s only in his mid-50’s. As far as doctor crunch...already here in our area due to much older population (I’m assuming.) Takes me 6 weeks to get an appt. with my GP. If it’s something that is urgent, you either take an appt. with the Nurse Practitioner or go to the walk-in.

Took me 6 months to get an appt. with a neurologist who specializes in my disease (he was specialist who was based at the University.) Now he headed for the hills, resigned and took a job with a big name pharmaceutical.

And the most recent doctor shortage (in neurologists and other health care providers) in our area comes from a large health care conglomerate that can’t come to an agreement with our insurance company (United). This health care conglomerate has several hospitals and a large portion of doctors in their organization (about 70% of neurologists in our area, it is estimated they include 34% of all health care facilities and providers.) So if they (the insurance and the health care conglomerate don’t come to an agreement within a couple weeks...it’s going to be bad news for lots of patients.) Crunch time at other hospitals and providers that will accept the plan.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 3:22:51 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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MY guess is they will follow the Soviet Model.

* Build many hospitals or urban outreach buildings. They will be filthy, just like in Mother Russia.
* Staff with poorly trained doctors or physicians assistants or some new title they invent.

We are FUBAR'd....

33 posted on 11/15/2012 4:14:24 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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The key to “selling” socialized care is the allure of “universal coverage”..... Meaning everybody has a “ health care policy” into which they pay monthly.

Basically another Social Security and Medicare style payroll deduction is considered ideal by the fascists/proto-fascists that now run this country.

The “key” to making it all work however, is having NO access to the system....which is best accomplished by having NO primary care docs.
This is only means by which the monthly payroll deduction can be retained for the play and use of the fascists. They consider the actual health care of those from whom they take the money “a waste of a good opportunity”


34 posted on 11/15/2012 4:17:05 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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I’ve already lost my doctor to the Obamacare rules. My doctor owned a chain of about a dozen clinics, and being a physician, he also practiced in one of his clinics. Obamacare says that a doctor cannot own and operate a hospital or healthcare facility and practice in that place. My doc had a choice, stop being a doctor or give up his business. He chose to stop practicing medicine and just manage his chain of clinics. I had to find another doctor and now I’ve lost out by having a doctor who I’ve only seen twice versus one I’ve known for the past twenty years.


36 posted on 11/15/2012 4:27:22 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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The solution to the non problem is obvious.

Low Pay for a docter in America is better than No Pay in India or the Philippines


40 posted on 11/15/2012 4:41:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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Gee! No foolin’? One of the doctors in my town has already announced his early retirement.
42 posted on 11/15/2012 4:50:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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part of the porblem can be solved by a high tech medical school program. Most med schools have restricted enrollment...why? Grow the average class from 1200 to 3000 and you solve the problem of retired doctors. Make more studies online and cheaper and you have a solution to the people that don't want 300,000 debt to be a an MD.

Next make medicine effiecent - fewer tests because of fewer lawsuit and make software reduce test not add them.

58 posted on 11/15/2012 6:19:43 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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I know two doctors the day after the election that quit their practices. ObamaCare forces every doctor to participate at the level of Medicare or worse.


60 posted on 11/15/2012 8:06:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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It’ll all be blamed on the GOP somehow.


61 posted on 11/15/2012 8:41:41 AM PST by TwoSue
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BTTT!


65 posted on 11/15/2012 12:41:31 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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