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Time to consider separation, divorce: ... principled Americans must insulate selves from judgment
WND ^ | November 13, 2012 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/14/2012 5:32:36 PM PST by Perseverando

Divorce is an ugly word.

For devout Christians and Jews, it’s a particularly unthinkable term.

The Bible strictly discourages it, even forbids it, except in the most exceptional circumstances.

But for Americans faithful to the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the heritage of sacrifice and liberty that set apart this country from the rest of the world, it’s time to consider separation and divorce from those who have committed adultery.

The election of 2012 provides more stark evidence that we are not really one country, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We are already two peoples – those of us still loyal and faithful to the God-inspired founding American principles and those who have gone awhoring after the idols of government coercion and doing what’s right in their own eyes.

In short, as I have written before, America is flirting with profound judgment. If those of us who disapprove of the same-sex marriage, abortion, tyranny, collectivism, the coerced subversion of religious freedom and forced taxpayer support for the spreading of ungodly, unbiblical values and laws want to avoid that coming judgment, it’s time to separate ourselves wholly from participation.

I don’t pretend to know exactly how this works.

America is a big country that is thoroughly permeated with this treasonous, immoral, adulterous lifestyle.

But I am convinced we’ve got to begin forming new communities of the faithful and declare our separation and independence once again, just as our courageous founders did 236 years ago. Like them, we need to be prepared to defend ourselves, our families, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Barring a miracle, I don’t believe reconciliation with those who have gone awhoring is a possibility. I’m sorry, I just don’t have much in common with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi and George Soros

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cw2; divorce; independence; separation

1 posted on 11/14/2012 5:32:44 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
I have believed we have needed a National Divorce for a long time now.

Walter Williams has wrote about it in the past.

2 posted on 11/14/2012 5:34:51 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Perseverando

I’m looking at overseas jobs. Being an expat seems like a good way to go for a couple of years....


3 posted on 11/14/2012 5:35:35 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Perseverando

Yeah, well, down here in Georgia we tried that in 1861. Didn’t work.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 5:37:14 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Doesn’t mean it won’t work next time. We have a lot more weapons now and the internet.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 5:39:06 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

MMMmmmm . . .. I wonder what Robert E. Lee could have done with the Internet.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 5:42:46 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Exactly. Things have changed. It’s time for a divorce. I


7 posted on 11/14/2012 5:42:51 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Kozak

You risk missing all the action. It seems like things are starting to develop rather quick. I hope you know what your name means - Kozaks(Cossacks) don’t run away from enemy...


8 posted on 11/14/2012 5:43:15 PM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Perseverando

This isn’t something bad like divorce. This would be Christians living as they should: in this world, but not of this world. We can sever ties with those who believe the lies of Satan’s Progressive agenda. We can protect and care for those in our faith communities. We can drive those who would corrupt our faith out of our midst. We render unto Caesar as required, but we don’t work for the purpose of surrounding ourselves with unnecessary luxuries (and paying the taxes on the income required to buy all that stuff).

Basically, we live in time that is ripe for converting the pagans. But only if we choose to stop ATTENDING church and instead start to LIVE as Christians.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 5:46:25 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Samogon
Kozaks(Cossacks) don’t run away from enemy...

Sure they do. They're classic irregular cavalry.

Run away, circle around and hit him from the rear.

10 posted on 11/14/2012 5:46:49 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Samogon
Kozaks(Cossacks) don’t run away from enemy...

Sure they do. They're classic irregular cavalry.

Run away, circle around and hit him from the rear.

11 posted on 11/14/2012 5:47:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Kozak

As bad as things may get here, I’m not going anywhere I can’t take my guns.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 5:56:15 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Sherman Logan

Maneuvering is different from running away.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 6:00:58 PM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Perseverando
The American people already seceded from the Union in toto. They dissolved it.

...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of the lawlessness that has greatly manifested itself in the highest offices they have withdrawn their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.

14 posted on 11/14/2012 6:01:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Samogon

Yeah, I’m fully aware of my handle, check my profile.
I just don’t want to support the regime with my sweat.
If things get hot, I would certainly return. Maybe join a Red Guard unit, which would be amusingly ironic...


15 posted on 11/14/2012 6:11:06 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Perseverando

One thing this election has done for me is to clarify who I will spend my time with. I have chosen to circle myself with people of like minds. Those that don’t fit my reality are not going to be part of it. Can’t waste my time any longer in educating stupid people. I’m done with that. You don’t want to think of GOD,FAMILY,COUNTRY then I am cutting friends out of my life.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 6:51:55 PM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: marygam

HA....got into it with a “friend” of 30 years who was one of my maids of honor at our wedding.....dumb as a box of rocks, evidently, and not OPEN to hearing anything negative. She did not vote for Obama, but she only wants to hear positive info, it appears. Articles that don’t match her reality are not welcome. I am the “toxic” one...with my “political rantings.” She’s gone....and I feel lightened....Won’t have to look at her hundreds of pictures of she and her dogs, and their unbearable Xmas letter outlining their life, month by month, in 2 single spaced pages.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 7:07:03 PM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Perseverando

It is not “divorce.” Our relationship with the state is not a marriage—that is one man, one woman which models Christ’s “marriage” with all the saints, which is a permanent, unbreakable covenant.

We the people (via our agents the sovereign states) have a voluntary association freely made. When the general govt breaks faith the people can institute a new govt. Tryannies drunk with their usurpations resist such separations violently. That is why the 2nd Amendment exists.


18 posted on 11/14/2012 7:17:26 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Samogon

Ahh, but much of the most effective maneuvering consists of giving a damn good impressions of running away.

Won us the Battle of Cowpens, and the Mongols a whole bunch of battles.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 7:34:12 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: MachIV

Exactly, Im not going anywhere either without guns


20 posted on 11/14/2012 7:39:02 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Perseverando
I'm not sure what to make of this article, but I would add this as a warning:

When the day of the Lord's judgement comes, that judgement will begin with the house of God. The problem is not so much that Americans have "gone a whoring," as he put it, but that the Church has"gone a whoring." She has forgotten her First Love, the One who died to save her and make her clean and has instead pursued earthly lovers. Instead of seeking to please her Lord through obedience, she has sought the favor of the world. In doing so, she is sure to reap two things; 1) The disfavor of the world, and 2) (this one is far more important) the displeasure of Her Lord. He will, no doubt, as He has in the past, chastise the ones he loves for their purification.

The election has made me very sad, for in it I see God's hand of blessing being finally removed from the land that I love. The only thing that can save America now is the full out, sitting in sack cloth and ashes repentance of His Church. It's the elephant in the room that doesn't even know it's in the room.

21 posted on 11/14/2012 7:41:13 PM PST by HusbandMan
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To: Bryanw92

“Basically, we live in time that is ripe for converting the pagans. But only if we choose to stop ATTENDING church and instead start to LIVE as Christians.”

AMEN! Shout it brother! From the rooftops!

The real origin of our nation’s fall lies at the feet of the church - Christians and churches who have embraced all the world has to offer and who no longer are salt - they have no influence on the world around them - so the fall of the nation was inevitable.....we need to quit pointing the finger at the liberals/Marxists, and look at ourselves.

II Chron. 7:14 is addressed specifically to “My people...”, not a nation....


22 posted on 11/14/2012 7:42:46 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: MrChips

“Yeah, well, down here in Georgia we tried that in 1861. Didn’t work.”

Try again.

Unless you always give up after the first attempt.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 8:17:41 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: goodnesswins

Well goodness, that was refreshing to say the least. I didn’t want to sound like hardhatted Hannah, but sheesh! Thanks for letting me know about your “friend”. Puts all this into prespective doesn’t it? Living like this is all going away makes them clueless. We should buy complimentary shovels for them so they can dig the hole to put their heads in.
Hey! Appropriate Christmas Present.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 4:05:41 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Arlis

>>AMEN! Shout it brother! From the rooftops!

>>The real origin of our nation’s fall lies at the feet of the church - Christians and churches who have embraced all the world has to offer and who no longer are salt - they have no influence on the world around them - so the fall of the nation was inevitable.....we need to quit pointing the finger at the liberals/Marxists, and look at ourselves.

That’s the challenge, isn’t it? Getting the existing Christians to hear the message is tough. They are as “saved” as they need to be, or so they think. I preach in church from time to time and I think that it would be far easier to preach to the unsaved than it is to preach to those who think that they’re completely sanctified.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 7:41:02 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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