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Scalia vs. Thomas Jefferson on secession: Will nation 'submit to government without limits'?
WND ^ | November 14, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2012 4:02:07 PM PST by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando

I thought Scalia was an originalist; that is the belief that the U.S. Constitution should be interpreted according to the intent of those who composed and adopted it ... and the founders were silent on secession. The guns were not silent, and if that war were fought today, the north would lose.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 5:01:07 PM PST by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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the north would lose.

Provided the soldiers quartered here chose to fight for the states and not the feds.

Not sure it would be a north south battle...more like a Northeast/West coast vs the rest of us. But your main point is well taken.

It says We the People of the UNITED states. Should the states become disunited...as they almost were in 1810-ish and later in 1860,why should they not choose to leave.

However, if states were serious, they could start by telling the feds they were not taking the money and not following their “regulations”

I do not see anything close to that beginning to happen.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 6:06:45 PM PST by Adder (Holy Crap! Now what?)
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To: alphadog
I thought Scalia was an originalist; that is the belief that the U.S. Constitution should be interpreted according to the intent of those who composed and adopted it ...

He is, except when he's not. He gave full-throated endorsement to the expansive Commerce Clause so fedgov could outlaw medical marijuana.

23 posted on 11/14/2012 6:55:39 PM PST by Ken H
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

We can “seceed” from the federal gravy train by starting a movement in all of the red states and red counties or red towns. We can refuse to take federal money by cutting back on anything that the federal government gives us such as housing or anything else that Lyndon Baines Johnson thought up in his diabolical Great Society program. We have to roll back on anything that involves federal money and return to a slimmed down government.

No federal programs in our towns and states means that there will be far fewer federal employees who are the power source of the Democratic party machine. Democrat bureacrats give money to their bosses, must answer to their bosses if they should forget to vote and are required to hold signs and work to get out the vote. That is why they have such a huge organization which allows them to bring so many people to the polls. If there were far fewer government workers in our communites, there would be less of a Democrat Party presence in our communities. This is how we have to starve the beast of the Democrat party machine.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 9:29:13 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Perseverando
The Blaze reported on a 2006 letter purporting to be from Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia that said, “There is no right to secede.

No, not since the States gave up their militias in favor of a standing federal army, along with other sovereign powers.

25 posted on 11/14/2012 9:50:35 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Perseverando

states have the power to secede from the union... it is up to the people to defend and protect that power through fighting... in 1865 the union won... but did not eliminate the power of a state to seceded.

the resolve to dissolve will be the factor. resist we much.

teeman


26 posted on 11/15/2012 7:20:25 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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And that currency is blood of tyrants.

there. fixed it.

teeman


27 posted on 11/15/2012 7:22:35 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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