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Rove: The Lessons of Defeat for the GOP
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 14, 2012 | by Karl Rove

Posted on 11/14/2012 3:45:40 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP is undergoing the type of re-examination that occurs whenever a party loses. That useful exercise should be guided by facts. Here is some of what we know.

The media's postelection narrative is that Democrats won because of a demographic shift. There is some truth to that, but a more accurate description is that Democrats won in a smaller turnout by getting out more of their vote.

Tactically, Republicans must rigorously re-examine their "72-hour" ground game and reverse-engineer the Democratic get-out-the-vote effort in order to copy what works.

Strategically, Republicans will need to frame economic issues to better resonate with middle-class families.

Republicans need not jettison their principles. But they must avoid appearing judgmental and callous on social issues. Offensive comments about rape by GOP Senate candidates in Missouri and Indiana gave the media an excuse to put social issues at the election's center in a way that badly hurt the entire party, as well as costing Republicans two Senate seats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; failure; loser; notmyfault; rino; rove
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I know it’s everyones hearts desire right now to castigate Carl Rove but what he’s saying here is right.

Let me translate into non Turd Blossom language we all can understand:

1,GOTV
2. Don’t change our principles but sell them better
3. When you get hit, fight back
4. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot

Who disagrees with the above?

1. Project ORCA was an abject failure. Sorry Ann, but I doubt it’s the first time Mitt muffed something.

2. We cannot depend on frustrated liberals accidently tuning into Rush or that banging idiot Hannity to bring the powerful positive message of Conservatism to votes of all demographics.

3. “Bush Lied, People Died” was when this crap started. I was ashamed then that Bush didn’t fight back, and Mr. Rove is doubtless the reason. OK, we all screw up and we all learn from our mistakes. Rove gets it now, things have changed and we must challenge every time we get attacked.

4. Mourdock and Akin deserved to lose. If you can’t control your mouth I don’t want you anywhere near the US Congress. We need better candidates.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 3:56:54 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I blame the GOP for installing America’s first dictator.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 3:58:02 PM PST by Logical me
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To: RichInOC

My advice for Romney was to lose the high priced consultants and start listening to the conservatives who didn’t much like him.

It wouldn’t have been comfortable but it would have been honest


23 posted on 11/14/2012 3:58:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ya know, Karl....you’re not a bad guy, and certainly not stupid. Really.

However, you got your ass handed to you, and this is your chosen profession.

Lightning doesn’t always strike twice, Karl. You now remind me of the 40-something, former high school quarterback who once won The Big Game; always trying to relive the glory days (God, how I’m trying like all hell to avoid sounding like Springsteen here).

Your version of the old GOP just died its own natural death. You lost; WE didn’t lose. You, and the “traditional” GOP elitists had the floor mopped with your arrogant selves.

You stiffed the Tea Party; you stiffed Palin and others at the Republican National Convention. You thumbed your up-turned noses at grassroots conservatives.

Go write a book and retire, Karl. You’re history.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 4:00:46 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: bigbob
Agree with you on Mourdock. Even an amateur Rush listener like myself knew back in January that journ0list Stephanopolus had telegraphed the war on women strategy back in January.

How can a serious candidate for senate not be ready to hit that question out of the ballpark?

As for demographics, we have a serious problem.

25 posted on 11/14/2012 4:02:10 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey! Rino Rove!!

I’m sitting here in Pennsylvania, with Bob “CANDYMAN” Asher as my GOP lead.

A bigger ESTABLISHMENT PUBBIED YOU CAN’T FIND!!

Take it from me, we NEED to jettison you guys as quickly as possible.

Asher only wants to keep his money. He DOES NOT give a flying foo about the country. And he will STUDIOUSLY trample ANY rebellion to his pubbie rule.

Tommy Ridge anyone? Corbitt anyone???

IE, the CANDYMAN deliberately undermined Smith’s campaign, because after all, “he wasn’t a company man!!”

Hey, I don’t know, BUT I BEEN TOLD. Right, Bobby?


26 posted on 11/14/2012 4:02:54 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. And I just Hope they don't like it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Republicans lost becasue they tried to look like Democrats.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 4:03:01 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Between a bloviating Rovasaurus and the frightening incompetence of Mitty’s Massachusetts Mafia, the GOP never had a chance.

Thanks Karl, thanks a lot. Those insights are really special.

28 posted on 11/14/2012 4:03:18 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Karl, shut your pie hole and slink off like you ought.

This was precisely the candidate and election you wanted.

You got it.

You lost it.

I never want to hear another word from you.

EVER.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 4:05:33 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

he;s exactly the reaosn why we lose.

It’s not because we do not have enough votes, it;s because we had a massive rigged election, hell they are even still finding bags stuffed with ballots here in the Dem 3 counties of FL
When asked the woman in charge of that county elections said this happens all the time\\\HUH

St Lucie county another Dem county said they could nto explain how the votes were counted

ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING ME


30 posted on 11/14/2012 4:07:23 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.
Karl Rove = LOSER.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 4:07:30 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The only way I ever want to see Karl Rove wheezing and farting on TV again, re: grown-up politics, is while appropriately garbed in a cap-and-bells, with little jangly shoes.
32 posted on 11/14/2012 4:08:39 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: bigbob
4. Mourdock and Akin deserved to lose. If you can’t control your mouth I don’t want you anywhere near the US Congress. We need better candidates.

The worst thing about the idiocy Akin, and to a lesser extent Mourdock, babbled on about is just how many conservatives simply couldn't see how much damage these jokers were doing to their own campaigns and the Republican party. A large chunk of our party is living in a fantasy land that in no way resembles the way citizens react and vote in the real world. We even had a not insignificant number of conservatives who thought polls could be "unskewed".

You actually had conservatives even here on FR trying to sell the idea that Akin shouldn't drop out and that he could still win. The extent to which one has to wear blinders to not understand that Akin was finished once he droned on about women's bodies magically preventing pregnancy in cases of rape is...well...astonishing.

33 posted on 11/14/2012 4:08:46 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

tell that to the idiot named Hannity who worships the elitist types like Rove, hell he can;t mention that we had an election stolen and we are still finding corruption, fraud, bags of ballots hidden in a corner here.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 4:09:19 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: bigbob

5. Bitch slap anyone who tries to become a sore loser when they fail to win the primary (Lugar-IN, Murkowski-AK).

6. Don’t take the base for granted and if you claim to be a “big tent” party don’t shove RNC rules down the delegate’s throats.

7. If you slap around West, Bachmann or Palin, etc., don’t expect me to defend/support you when you’re in a fix.

8. Don’t try to “out-Democrat” Democrats.


35 posted on 11/14/2012 4:11:08 PM PST by Kolath
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To: Bryan24

we lost because we had a rigged election and results not adding up, do you know that they are still finding balot stuffed in bags in the corner of rooms here , that we have found that republican votes were not counted.

Yea we lost because of corruption , doens;t matter who we had running the Dems had bags of votes on stand by in precincts

Until our side gets some balls and speaks up instead of being cowardly and thinking the left will call them a name then we might have a chance until then everyone needs to speak up and demand off the RNC they better look and investigate into this election.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 4:13:49 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kolath
6. Don’t take the base for granted and if you claim to be a “big tent” party don’t shove RNC rules down the delegate’s throats.

^ THIS ^

7. If you slap around West, Bachmann or Palin, etc., don’t expect me to defend/support you when you’re in a fix.

^ THIS ^


37 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:35 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Rove’s credibility is exactly zero. I suggest everyone listen to what Rove has to say, and then do the opposite.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 4:18:36 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: manc

I would not have a problem with a Federal Law specifying all voting for President be done on Optical Scanners.

We use those in Alabama. You get instant results as soon as the polls close, and have easy to handle, rugged paper backups that can be rescanned to verify any possilbe erratic results.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 4:19:17 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shut up Karl.


40 posted on 11/14/2012 4:19:30 PM PST by DManA ( you)
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