Dan Walters: California begins huge experiment in greenhouse gas regulation

Sacramento Bee ^ | November 14, 2012 | by Dan Walters

[Oldeconomybuyer]

It probably wasn't happenstance that California's historic – good or bad, it's historic – experiment in greenhouse gas regulation was delayed until after an election in which voters would be deciding on new taxes.

California's utility costs are already among the highest in the nation. The Public Utilities Commission staff and the utilities themselves have warned that the transition will sharply increase bills.

Californians also pay more than most other Americans for gasoline and diesel fuel, thanks to our unique refining requirements, and the Air Resources Board is pushing refiners to go even further toward "clean fuels," which will be more costly.

This is a huge experiment in altering Californians' economy and lifestyles.

Whether it pans out or not, the short-run costs will be immense.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Idiots.

[cripplecreek]

Thank God some sanity has returned to Michigan. We voted down our green energy mandate that would have killed us.

Coming years should provide some interesting comparison lessons worth watching.

[Tenacious 1]

If I were the dictator of this country......

I’d cut all funding to CA from the Fed and tell them they can stop sending taxes. You’re on your own until you get your finances in order.

....That’s if I were the elected dictator.

[Domangart]

What luck. This is just in time for the European fraudsters who lost there jobs in that scam to move here.

[pogo101]

Necessarily bankrupt.

[throwback]

Cool. Californicide. Other blue states to follow.

[Venturer]

It couldn’t happen to a better State.

[wac3rd]

I live here and the Chamber of Commerce is suing the State for an unconstitutional law. The idiots who voted themselves tax hikes, a train to nowhere and to tax “millioniares” who make $250,000 voted for this Cap and Trade plan.

They have no clue and do what their grivance group or union tells them to do.

[fifedom]

Cool. Californicide. Other blue United states to follow.

For those of you who feel so smug, look who is Pres. Hussein's EPA will force the rest of the US to buy into this crap with regulations to be released in a few weeks.

[Gritty]

If I were the dictator of this country......

You are not and the one we now have will not do it. He loves the idea.

[Tenacious 1]

You are not and the one we now have will not do it. He loves the idea.

Why you gotta dash my hopes and dreams like that? lol

[itsahoot]

In the Desert those AC bills will be a little tough to swallow.

[TexasRepublic]

All that remains is for Moonbeam Brown to construct a cinderblock wall topped with barbed wire around the entire state to keep his victims from escaping. Oh, wait......hasn’t that been tried somewhere before?

[jimsin]

'What luck. This is just in time for the European fraudsters who lost their jobs in that scam to move here'

BWHAAH why you dont mean them Spanish fraudsters do you Dom.?

HELL THE SPANISH DUMB GREENIES LEARNED HOW STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE GREEN IS, 2 YEARS AGO..... WAY BACK IN 2010. Maybe the KAHLEEFORNJA GREENIES just cant read .... HERE'S A LITTLE TASTE OF THE HAIR OF THE GREEN DOG THAT BIT THE SPANISH GREEN STOOGES IN their BUTTS.

RETURN WITH ME NOW , FELLOW FREEPS, BACK TO THOSE THRILLING DAYS OF YESTERYEAR...WHEN THE SPANISH GREENIES RODE THE ANDALUSIAN PLAIN... OH MY GODDDD....



'How well did a government-run green energy policy work in Spain? Story here from Pajamas Media. (H/T Stuart Scheidernman) Keep in mind that the socialists under Zapatero are running Spain now, and that’s where this green energy policy came from. Is it working out for socialist Spain? Excerpt:

Pajamas Media has received a leaked internal assessment produced by Spain’s Zapatero administration. The assessment confirms the key charges previously made by non-governmental Spanish experts in a damning report exposing the catastrophic economic failure of Spain’s “green economy” initiatives. the document reveals exactly why electricity rates “necessarily skyrocketed” in Spain, as did the public debt needed to underwrite the disaster. This internal assessment preceded the Zapatero administration’s recent acknowledgement that the “green economy” stunt must be abandoned, lest the experiment risk Spain becoming Greece. The government report does not expressly confirm the highest-profile finding of the non-governmental report: that Spain’s “green economy” program cost the country 2.2 jobs for every job “created” by the state. However, the figures published in the government document indicate they arrived at a job-loss number even worse than the 2.2 figure from the independent study.'

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/how-well-did-a-government-run-green-energy-policy-work-in-spain/

REALLY FOLKS....IT SEEMS THERE'S DUMB AND THEN THERE'S KALIFORNJA GREEN DUMB....(THAT'S REALLY REALLY REALLY DUMB)

[Wings-n-Wind]

"huge experiment"

syn. "boondoggle"

[Teacher317]

Somehow, CA’s debt to GDP ratio is around 10%... the US is at 105%. ($16T for a $15T GDP.) The IMF calls 125% unsustainable

[sheana]

They are already tough to swallow. In the summer our electric bill runs $600 a month. We keep it set on 79 or 80. We also have 2 swamp coolers that we can run as long as it’s not 114.
Guess I can expect $1 k bills now.

[throwback]

Oh, I think we’re well aware that California’s great ideas are coming to us all. If you live in a major city in the deepest red state, the ideas have been wafting in from the more diseased parts of the country for some time. It’s just the blue states going first.