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As the author said, Ronald Reagan could not have won.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 2:42:02 PM PST by fso301
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I disagree strongly with the idea that Reagan could not have won. This is a Romney talking point from the primaries with no merit. Reagan appealed to people as people first. Mostly, Reagan was genuine in what he expressed, and people understood that. Reagan did not come across as a used car salesman, slick and contradicting what he told the last customer.

2 posted on 11/14/2012 2:52:37 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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Reagan could have won. The problem the only people who actually believed Romney presented a REAL difference were liberal who thought he was an arch conservative. The rest of the world saw it as Romneycare vs Obamacare and then their level of participation in the election was governed by how much they hated Obama, even the hardcores didn’t actually expect Romney to do much of anything, maybe a couple of tweaks to Obamacare to make it slightly less odious. Slightly less odious doesn’t tend to win elections.

3 posted on 11/14/2012 2:57:16 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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The country has changed since Reagan. Not as many people have the values that elected Reagan. We now have at least 47% dependent on the government - contributing nothing and faithfully voting democrat.

4 posted on 11/14/2012 3:14:24 PM PST by I want the USA back
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I disagree vehemently. Reagan was a brilliant communicator and would have pulled people into his world view. Romney, despite doing a lot of things quite well, did not do that. He essentially closed the ABO crowd, and no more. Reagan would definitely not get the landslides of the 1980s in today’s world, but he could certainly win. Does anyone not think, he could have persuaded 10,000 people in Florida to vote for prosperity? Would not 300,000 people in the five key swing states consider changing course?

I agree, the author says the traditional values of work ethic and aspirations are different today, but there are many people who stayed home or voted for Obama that would have considered another option.

6 posted on 11/14/2012 3:17:24 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: fso301
As the author said, Ronald Reagan could not have won.

Self-serving Team Mittens bullcrap.

"Once upon a time, a pet food company created a new variety of dog food, and rolled out a massive marketing campaign to introduce the product.

"Despite hiring a first-rate advertising agency, initial sales were very, very disappointing. The agency was fired, and a new agency (with an expensive new campaign) was launched. Sales, however, stubbornly continued to crater. (If anything, in fact, they fell even further than they had before.)

"In desperation, the CEO called in all of his top executives for a brainstorming session to analyze what had gone wrong with the two campaigns, and how a new campaign might revive sales.

"The meeting went on for hours. Sophisticated statistical analysis was brought to bear on the problem. One VP argued that the mix of TV and print ads had been hopelessly bollixed. Another argued that the previous campaigns had been too subtle, and had failed to feature the product with sufficient prominence. Still another argued that the TV ad campaign had focused too much on spots during sporting events, and not enough on regular programming with a broader demographic. And yet another argued the exact opposite: not enough sports programming had been targeted!

"After the debate had raged for hour after fruitless hour, the CEO felt they had accomplished damned little. He asked if anyone else had any theories -- any at all -- that might conceivably explain the failure of their new product. Finally, one newly hired employee raised her hand and was recognized.

"'Maybe the dogs simply don’t like it,' she offered."


The GOP-e could stand to actually learn something from the humble makers of dog food, evidently.

7 posted on 11/14/2012 3:19:28 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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Romney certainly had a lot of problems.

But the demographics look bad to me long term.

Non-whites (blacks, hispanics, and Asians) are increasingly voting Democrat AND becoming a larger percentage of the electorate.

With the Death Panels hastening the demise of baby boomer Republicans, I’m concerned about the future.

9 posted on 11/14/2012 3:25:22 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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Good find...

They left out the bit about screwing over the Ron Paul delegates - they could have gotten some of those votes instead of disenfranchising them - not a time to make the tent smaller.

10 posted on 11/14/2012 3:32:24 PM PST by paulk
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Any decent candidate would have beaten Jimmy Carter II.

Romney has been a failure as a candidate his entire 20 years of running for office, he has always broken spending records, has injected 55 million dollars of his own money at crucial points during his campaigns, and he won a single election for governor, he was rejected for reelection and left that office with 34% approval, Romney then lost to the non-funded Huckabee and old man McCain in 2008, before Carter 2 thumped him in 2012.

13 posted on 11/14/2012 3:48:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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Reagan won because people knew he meant what he said.

Everyone with half a brain knew Romney was a liar who would say anything to get elected -— just as he did in MA and just as he slandered good men running for the Republican nomination.

15 posted on 11/14/2012 3:50:32 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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I think Romney got enough votes to win. Anywhere they don’t have voter ID “they” say he lost. And don’t get me started on electronic voter machines.

19 posted on 11/14/2012 4:04:06 PM PST by bigheadfred
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If people were in those in those good paying jobs promised by free trade, they would have voted Republican. They would not have to rely on Obama to survive.

21 posted on 11/14/2012 4:12:34 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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Assuming that, as the author says, conservative values are dead in America, then what’s the point?

24 posted on 11/14/2012 4:26:48 PM PST by popdonnelly
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What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.

Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.


>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Here’s What You Can Do:

>> These electi...


Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here


The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here

Another website:

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here


We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!

Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here

32 posted on 11/14/2012 8:28:41 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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Well, when the fraud flips a Romney vote to an Obamanoid vote, it is not hard to see why Mitt Romney didn’t get enough votes to win. Obama didn’t get enough actual honest votes to win. But his team cheats professionally. Have to with an affirmative action hire who has shown he is not capable of doing the job. It’s the classic free ride/ignore the obvious to avoid admission of managerial failure in promoting on race or sexual orientation instead of merit syndrome writ large.

34 posted on 11/14/2012 8:40:54 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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This is the best piece I have seen written about the election. It mirrors what I have written here at FR and conversations I have had with friends and family. The deluded and the eternal optimists will disagree with certain of his points but I think his analysis is absolutely correct.

He is also a very good writer conveying his thoughts in a more cogent manner than most while not mincing words at all.


35 posted on 11/14/2012 8:49:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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Note to Romney/Ryan: Here are a small sampling of the REAL reasons that y’all lost:

Never questioned Obama’s place of birth;
Never questioned Obama’s reasons for sealing his personal documents and school records;
Never Campaigned from the end of the Primary until people started early voting;
Never allowed The Father of the Tea Party to be involved in y’alls GOP-Elite Campaign;
Y’all listened to y’alls sorry Harvard top campaign advisers;
Ignored Moderator Bob Scheiffer when he delivered the election to Romney on a silver platter with his question to him about Benghazi as the first question in the third debate;
Romney, as the Father of Socialist Romney’care’ ran against the Father of Communist Obama’care.’
Y’all NEVER ONCE went for the coup de gra’ce;
Every time that y’all got ahead, y’all relaxed and changed course;
Y’all kept y’alls advisors that had done a perfect job of designing a campaign to “LOSE AT ALL COSTS.”

Y’all are just another pair of loser RINOs.
Don’t run in 2016 unless you understand all of the above, as we damn sure won’t forget ANY of y’alls RINO blunders!

DUH! I’m surprised that y’all received as many votes as y’all did.

BTW, the only good thing that came out of y’alls Primary and General Campaigns was HOW NOT TO RUN A CAMPAIGN!

38 posted on 11/14/2012 9:22:21 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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Romney lacked “fire in the belly.” I seriously doubt that he wanted to be President.

Tone of voice, pretty-boy smile, body language, choice of softball words, lack of follow-through on key issues such as the Benghazi Murders, etc., all indicated to me that he had better things to do with HIS precious time than to spend it running for President of the United States of America.

It is time for us to shun the typical RINO/GOP-Elite Campaigns Method of LOSE AT ALL COSTS.

“Whisper softly and then sit down” should be the motto of the Dole-McCain-Romney ‘Choose to lose’ Campaigns.

40 posted on 11/15/2012 6:09:04 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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