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From suburb to basket case: How California city traveled the road to ruin
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Posted on 11/14/2012 11:55:17 AM PST by TigerClaws

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. -- When this sun-drenched exurb east of Los Angeles filed for bankruptcy protection in August, the city attorney suggested fraudulent accounting was the root of the problem. The mayor blamed a dysfunctional city council and greedy police and fire unions. The unions blamed the mayor. Even now, there is little agreement on how the city got into this crisis or how it can extricate itself. "It's total political chaos," said John Husing, a former San Bernardino resident and regional economist. "There is no solution. They'll never fix anything."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: liberalism; parasite

1 posted on 11/14/2012 11:55:19 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
"There is no solution. They'll never fix anything."


2 posted on 11/14/2012 11:59:06 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TigerClaws

This is a crime of such an enormous magnitude. California was such an extraordinary place. So much going for it in terms of geography, resources, climate, etc. Liberals are turning this extraordinary place into hell on earth.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 12:01:39 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: all the best
Liberals are turning this extraordinary place into hell on earth.

That's worth repeating.

4 posted on 11/14/2012 12:05:23 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: all the best

Now, Now, Now! California is proof that “Our Diversity Is Our Strength!”


5 posted on 11/14/2012 12:08:49 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: TigerClaws
I believe Madame Hillary is largely responsible for the grotesque benefits and pensions being doled out to firefighters and police. Let me explain.

In the wake of 9/11 firefighters and police in NYC were heralded as heroes....and rightly so. Most of them had a great relationship with George Bush and he neglected no opporunity to commend them highly.

Enter Hillary as NY Senator. She turned this around by causing ranks of firefighters and police to think they were now entitled to more. She took advantage of the public unions to turn their ranks into a "gimme" society rather than public service.

Thousands of police/firefighters across the country take their cue from what happens in NYC which is highly regarded as the best in the world as far as law and order. Thus, even small towns like San Bernardino are now paying through the nose for these services.

Yes, Hillary knew exactly what she was doing!

6 posted on 11/14/2012 12:10:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: TigerClaws

It matters not (as you and I shall be bailing them out within the year)


7 posted on 11/14/2012 12:11:35 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: all the best

The crime is headed straight towards the rest of us. When Cali finally goes under the fed/feds will bail them out at the expense of wiser states.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 12:16:13 PM PST by SENTINEL (Election 2012....One more false prophecy by FLDS/LDS "prophet" Joseph Smith)
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To: TigerClaws

East and West Germnay used to be the perfect example of liberalism’s (read MARXISM) effect: same people, different economic systems, horrifically different results.

Everywhere DemonRATS have control, they turn it into Camden New Jersy, or East St. Louis, or WWest Philly, Gary Indiana, or Detroit.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 12:16:32 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: TigerClaws

There is not “little agreement” on how they got into this mess.

They can’t pay their obscene firefighter, cop, and city worker salaries and pensions.

There is no disputing that.

Government workers are bankrupting municipalities all across the country in slow motion. It’s just that California, as usual, is the bellwether for what’s coming to your state.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 12:19:53 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

The voters in these liberal hellholes who voted for continually lib office-holders deserve what they voted for. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


11 posted on 11/14/2012 12:24:21 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: TigerClaws

Forward comrades-—4 more years of additional ‘fundamental change’. Insanity rules...courtesy of unfettered LIEberalisms.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 12:26:55 PM PST by tflabo
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To: TigerClaws

nuthin’ to see folks.. Just one more example of a success story of a train wreck of a liebral socialist gubamint hard at work.. move along uhhh forward!


13 posted on 11/14/2012 12:28:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: TigerClaws

All they have to do is tax the rich, that will fix it.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 12:41:54 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: all the best
growing up in upstate NY, I remember so vividly some friends of my parents who were packing up and going to CALIFORNIA!

California has been the paradise to so many for so many years....in one generation, its gone corrupt, broke,heartless, and of course, democratic...

15 posted on 11/14/2012 12:41:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
don't blame California's trouble on the latinos....they're only getting what is being given, like any human....

I blame the unions...the firemen, the cops, the teachers, the life guards, etc....all who have bankrupted that state now and for the long foreseeable future.....they knew better...

16 posted on 11/14/2012 12:43:34 PM PST by cherry
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To: hal ogen

San Bernadino is a conservative town. So this isn’t a “liberal” problem.

The problem is cops/firemen/city workers demanding raises and bigger pensions.

They donate cash to the politicians who set the wages. The politicians — both liberal and conservative are happy to oblige the unions. Why shouldn’t they? It’s not their own money.

It’s legal bribery, and if you think it’s only certain “voters in liberal hellholes,” who are going to suffer, you better take another look at the books in your own city/state.

Government unions should be illegal.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 1:16:02 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: TigerClaws

Greed=Union


18 posted on 11/14/2012 1:19:58 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: SENTINEL

If this is inevitable, that wiser states will be forced to bail out states full of folly, I have a proposal, which may sound rather cold-hearted. I propose when such states are faced with natural disasters, as all states inevitably are, that people in wiser states donate money to a disaster fund that will be set aside to use when their own state needs it, rather than, and in the same amount as, they would otherwise be giving to the catastrophe du jour. Oooo, feel almost guilty for having this thought.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: cherry
This is actually a preview for the rest of the US. I have spent a significant amount of time in each of these bankrupt California cities over the past 30 years. What were once nice cities with plenty of promise for the future have been increasingly turned into hell-holes by liberal politics.

As a start, I would simply pass a law that in order to collect your full public pension, you must continue to live within the city limits. You move, you automatically take a 50% cut.

Note that the destruction is being accomplished first in the blue-collar cities of California.

20 posted on 11/14/2012 1:21:26 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: cherry
growing up in upstate NY, I remember so vividly some friends of my parents who were packing up and going to CALIFORNIA!
East Coast liberals coming here for the jobs and the weather was the beginning of the end for us here.

Texas is next.

21 posted on 11/14/2012 1:32:13 PM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Blue Ink
San Bernadino is a conservative town. So this isn’t a “liberal” problem

...note that the problem started with the closing of a steel mill and then aerospace manufacturing. I've worked in both industries in California - they were destroyed by liberal state & federal policies, which also prevented new industries from replacing them. It didn't matter what party ran the city politics.

22 posted on 11/14/2012 1:34:50 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: TigerClaws

Moonbeam created this Frankenstein monster.

In 1975 he passed the Rodda Act allowing public employees to bargain collectively.

Snowball rollin’ downhill ever since.

It’s not the monster’s fault, the blame falls on Dr. Moonbeam.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 1:34:50 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: ghost of nixon
I'm confused. A police chief pulls in over 300K/yr. A beat cop makes 140K/yr. Yet they complain that the job is tough because of all the crime?

WTF are the citizens paying you that kind of scratch for then?

For 140,000 per year, that cop should be on patrol catching criminals 20 hours a day. It should be a wet dream of public safety and law and order.

24 posted on 11/14/2012 1:38:06 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: all the best

See my tagline...


25 posted on 11/14/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: TigerClaws

Brutally honest article. And scary.


26 posted on 11/14/2012 1:52:53 PM PST by paul544
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To: ghost of nixon

“It didn’t matter what party ran the city politics.”

That’s my point exactly. I live in Los Angeles — it’s been run by libs for forty years now. But that doesn’t matter — even their stupid anti-business policies haven’t bankrupted us — people still work and pay taxes.

What’s bankrupting the city are government salaries and pensions. Not one politician, liberal or conservative, can say “no” to the unions and get reelected. Or so they think.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 1:59:41 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: TigerClaws

Why become a doctor when you could become a firefighter or a cop, heck who needs a college degree, this is beyond sick, greed has destroyed this nation, I hope they choke on their material wealth, it is theft!!


28 posted on 11/14/2012 2:07:03 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There is no one left to suck anything out of. California is just going to have to eat it.

It's not like GM. I think people will raise hell if they have to bail out CA.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 6:19:26 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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