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Holder staying on for second term means more of same for Fast and Furious probe
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 13 November, 2012 | David Codrea

Posted on 11/14/2012 9:26:26 AM PST by marktwain

Most likely ending speculation Eric Holder started last week when he announced he may not stay on for a second term, the New York Post reported today that the attorney general will remain on the job at the request of the president.

Gun Rights Examiner raised troubling concerns that the floated resignation could remove Holder as a subject for further investigation into Fast and Furious gunwalking, and also raised the alarm that potential replacements being discussed in the press must be vetted with the gun issue being a non-negotiable litmus test. Holder’s reported decision not to resign now means he will still be the top decision-maker responsible for fielding House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform inquiries related to its ongoing investigation.

If the Post report is correct, Holder will stay on knowing he remains under the president’s executive protection. Also to be decided will be his motion that the U.S. District Court has no jurisdiction over the civil contempt of Congress complaint against him, but no matter which way that goes, the case can be dragged on for years via appeals.

“This might leave some to speculate, ‘What does Holder have on Obama?’” Seattle Gun Rights Examiner Dave Workman observed in a report today. “This might be a natural progression from the question people were asking this summer when Obama granted executive privilege protection to the subpoenaed documents: ‘What is Obama trying to hide?’”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhodoj; fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; murdergate
Hard to say whether this is better or worse for the country.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 9:26:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate.

2 posted on 11/14/2012 9:27:25 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Holder is goin it...I’ll be here

3 posted on 11/14/2012 9:28:32 AM PST by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: marktwain

Criminals all....

4 posted on 11/14/2012 9:37:26 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

5 posted on 11/14/2012 9:37:26 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: marktwain

A lot is known about Fast & Furious, so a large organization should conduct a mock *grand jury* inquiry, based on the available information, and listing known participants as “unindicted co-conspirators”, with the presentation of evidence that they *should* be indicted.

Video it as a documentary, and put it out as an “instructional DVD.”

The grand jury is a very interesting thing in common law and history, and though today grand juries are seen as a function of government, this was not always the case:

“Any citizen could bring a matter before a grand jury directly, from a public work that needed repair, to the delinquent conduct of a public official, to a complaint of a crime, and grand juries could conduct their own investigations.

“In that era most criminal prosecutions were conducted by private parties, either a law enforcement officer, a lawyer hired by a crime victim or his family, or even by laymen.

“A layman could bring a bill of indictment to the grand jury; if the grand jury found there was sufficient evidence for a trial, that the act was a crime under law, and that the court had jurisdiction, it would return the indictment to the complainant.

“The grand jury would then *appoint* the complaining party to exercise the authority of an attorney general, that is, one having a general power of attorney to represent the state in the case.”

Now here’s the zinger.

Though today grand juries are conducted differently, much US law is based on this older type of grand jury, so if someone were to conduct a grand jury in this traditional manner, it would have a bizarre resonance throughout the US judicial system.

Federal judges would note that, at least historically, a grand jury of this sort would be enough to indict many of the federal agents and officers involved with Fast & Furious.

Federal judges take this sort of thing very seriously, and it could create some serious judicial animosity to these federals who are hiding behind their badges right now.

6 posted on 11/14/2012 10:11:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: marktwain
Holder has so far successfully halted being charged gun running and murder. He is part of King Obama’s communists empire and nothing will touch him.
7 posted on 11/14/2012 11:02:30 AM PST by Logical me
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To: MestaMachine

Grand jury bump.

8 posted on 11/14/2012 3:22:30 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A traditional grand jury action makes more sense than the secession tantrum going on now.

9 posted on 11/15/2012 11:26:05 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

It would also make a very clear presentation of Fast & Furious to the public, without the spin, stonewalling, and obstruction that exists right now.

A seasoned prosecutor would present the known evidence to the audience seated as a grand jury, lay down the specifics of the case, and ask that they return an indictment, as if it were a grand jury hearing.

Beyond that, is just the editing and the distribution of the DVD.

10 posted on 11/15/2012 12:16:54 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: marktwain

He’s in contempt of Congress, why would the Senate re-confirm him?

11 posted on 11/15/2012 12:24:16 PM PST by CityCenter (Presidential terms are 4 years, eternity is forever.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Probably wouldn’t last more than a few days.

Sign me up.

12 posted on 11/15/2012 12:45:38 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: CityCenter
Because he's only in contempt of the House?

Still, will McConnell use his confirmation hearing as a de facto Fast and Furious hearing?


13 posted on 11/15/2012 12:52:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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