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Vegetative man tells doctors ĎIím not in painí via MRI communication
Yahoo ^ | November 14, 2012 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 11/14/2012 6:20:31 AM PST by NYer

More than 12 years after a car accident left him in a vegetative state, a Canadian man has begun communicating with doctors who are monitoring his brain activity through Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) scans.

The BBC reports that 39-year-old Scott Routley has been able to communicate to doctors that he is not in any pain, marking the first time an uncommunicative, severely brain-damaged patient has been able to give direct answers regarding their care and treatment.

"Scott has been able to show he has a conscious, thinking mind," British neuroscientist Adrian Owen told the BBC. "We have scanned him several times and his pattern of brain activity shows he is clearly choosing to answer our questions. We believe he knows who and where he is."

Owen leads a team at the Brain and Mind Institute, University of Western Ontario, which used MRI scans to measure responses from Routley.

Traditional tests have continued to indicate that Routley is in a vegetative state, with no relevant brain activity. Owen and other doctors say this means medical text books will literally need to be re-written when it comes to evaluating patients suffering from severe brain injuries.

Routley's previous neurologist said that for a decade all test results taken from scans of Routley's brain indicated he was not experiencing any mental activity.

"I was impressed and amazed that he was able to show these cognitive responses, said University Hospital's Bryan Young. "He had the clinical picture of a typical vegetative patient and showed no spontaneous movements that looked meaningful."

Owen says the results could lead to improved patient care for those living with severe brain injuries, making a major improvement in the daily of patients, including routine tasks such as when they prefer to be fed or bathed.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: brain; moralabsolutes; mri; neurology; prolife
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1 posted on 11/14/2012 6:20:36 AM PST by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 11/14/2012 6:21:19 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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3 posted on 11/14/2012 6:24:22 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

Bump!


5 posted on 11/14/2012 6:27:51 AM PST by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: NYer

Remember Terri Schiavo


6 posted on 11/14/2012 6:32:26 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: NYer

This shows that there is part of us that exists beyond physical consciousness. Have we stumbled upon the human soul?


7 posted on 11/14/2012 6:38:31 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: John O

“Remember Terri Schiavo”

Yeah, it’s a little late for her, and the bloodthirsty partisan murderers in Florida, and the Cowards Bush.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 6:41:32 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: NYer

So, they will stop harvesting organs from “brain dead” patients immediately, correct?


9 posted on 11/14/2012 6:42:09 AM PST by Boogieman
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So now we can ask a person in a “vegetative state” if they want their “plug pulled?” We don't have to leave it up to a judge or a stupid governor anymore?
10 posted on 11/14/2012 6:43:27 AM PST by subterfuge (************ Believe Barry Obama's Propaganda At Your Own Peril **************)
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To: Boogieman

“So, they will stop harvesting organs from “brain dead” patients immediately, correct?”

Except in China, of course.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 6:45:21 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: NYer

I cannot imagine being trapped within only the confines of my thoughts and no way to tell the outside world I am in pain or any other discomfort.

Yikes!


12 posted on 11/14/2012 6:50:37 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: John O
Remember Terri Schiavo

Exactly what I was thinking.

13 posted on 11/14/2012 6:52:06 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: NYer

A former classmate of mine made the decision to pull his wife off life support, just last night.

She had been brain dead for 5 days; and, apparently the doctors use 5 days as a measuring stick. They told him ‘it was time to make some decisions’.

He obviously loved her very much - he poured his heart out for 5 days on a blog like site called Caring Bridge. His wife’s mother and sister were there, when they ‘pulled the plug’, so I think they were in agreement.

I was astonished that 5 days seemd to be the limit...the point at which the doctors started pressuring him to remove her from the machines. But, I have no medical expertise whatsoever, and I assume the doctors know when there is ‘no chance’.

Then this article comes along...and I don’t know what to think.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 6:52:27 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

doesn’t matter here. ObieCare ain’t gonna cover keeping the Vega Table folks alive.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 6:53:43 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: lacrew

Try 30 seconds, and the brain still functioning. My Dad went on a ventilator, and within 30 seconds a little RAT-FACED Dr with a foreign accent was telling me to pull the plug.

Dad was still awake, and able to communicate by squeezing our hands. Once for yes. Twice for no. I told rat face that he was not God, and he couldn’t possibly know how things would turn out. I demanded that the antibiotics be given time to work.

Death panels have been here for a while already.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 7:00:56 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: lacrew

Sad story. I’m sure this article would freak him out. I’d hate having to make that decision for my wife.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by catbertz
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To: John O

Yes and everyone will after this article gets more attention. That woman was much more animated than this patient. Murder! Murder!


18 posted on 11/14/2012 7:11:21 AM PST by classified
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To: John O

May her husband burn in hell.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 7:15:36 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: NYer

This will not sit well with the death panels!


20 posted on 11/14/2012 7:15:55 AM PST by ruesrose (Love is Action!.)
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