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30 States Petition Federal Government to Secede After Election
Ther Blaze ^ | November 12, 2012 | Mytheos Holt

Posted on 11/13/2012 3:06:34 PM PST by Mozilla

Liberals often like to compare President Barack Obama to former President Abraham Lincoln. The comparison is usually dismissed as laughably hagiographical, but judging by one unexpected bit of fallout from Tuesday’s election, it could well end up being accurate in just one respect: Like Lincoln, Obama is facing requests by the citizens of numerous states to secede from the union.

However, unlike with Lincoln, these requests are peaceful, and highly unlikely to do anything at all except generate news headlines. A massive number of petitions are currently circulating on Change.org, a website designed to call for action by the federal government or by private institutions on particular causes, calling for particular states to be granted permission to secede.

Nor are they confined to the usual suspects (IE the Southern States). In actuality, the mix of states asking to secede is deeply bipartisan, ranging from the deeply red (Alabama and South Carolina) to the deeply blue (New York) to the swing (Pennsylvania). Nor are the states asking to secede in any way geographically clustered. Northern states (New York), Midwestern states (Michigan), Southern states (Alabama) and Western states (Nevada) have all filed petitions of their own. Most swing states this election cycle, with the exception of Ohio, have a petition of their own, and all of them have at least 1,000 signatures, with even some of the bluest states in the union easily keeping pace with their red counterparts.

Is this simply the product of a few thousand discontents in each individual state? Perhaps. But Texas’ petition has over 40,000 signatures, well over the 25,000 necessary to reach the attention of the President. If this turns out to be more than the discontented murmurings of a single state, this story may get ugly.

Additionally, here is a list of all the states with petitions to secede on WhiteHouse.gov:

Delaware California Ohio Nevada Pennsylvania Arizona Oklahoma Arkansas South Carolina Georgia Missouri Tennessee Michigan New York Colorado Oregon New Jersey North Dakota Montana Indiana Mississippi Kentucky Florida North Carolina Alabama Texas Louisiana


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: seced; secession
It is gaining steam the petitions to secede, but Governor Rick Perry of Texas is said to be against the idea. However the sources are all liberal-progressive sites which I don't trust.

CNN: Rick Perry doesn't support secession-petition

1 posted on 11/13/2012 3:06:40 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Now I read there is a petition to take the signers of the secession request, strip them of their citizenship and deport them. Anyone surprised?


2 posted on 11/13/2012 3:12:18 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Mozilla

I personally think the fur is about to fly . . .

It will interesting and depressing to watch . . .


3 posted on 11/13/2012 3:13:45 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Mozilla

These are not official actions of any state. The WH has a place where any citizen- any at all- can put up a petition, and anyone who finds it there can sign it if he wishes to.

On another thread I said that I could start one too, demanding that the WH become vegan, and if enough sign the thing, Obama would read it. Any of you can do the same thing, it’s like a graffiti wall, with the same weight as a graffiti wall.

If this came from a state legislature, it would be news, as it is it’s a curiosity that some are presenting as the real deal.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 3:16:10 PM PST by DBrow
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To: pacpam

Not surprised, but I am more than certain a left leaning site is probably behind it.


5 posted on 11/13/2012 3:17:44 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: pacpam

It’s not on the WH petition site, you can look here:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions


6 posted on 11/13/2012 3:22:39 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Mozilla

Can we all secede along with our Military, and then regroup around D.C.?

USv2 — fewer bugs, better features.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 3:26:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: DBrow

So If I wanted I could start a petition for my own state or any other state. But this feels like it will be all for show and not real. Like Obama would grant the right. Still it makes a point.


8 posted on 11/13/2012 3:27:25 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: pacpam; All

Sorry, heah tiz:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL

You can start one to ask that anyone signing THAT petition to be forced to listen to John Tesh CDs every morning.

I think the sudden publicity over this is the White House pimping their blog.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 3:28:01 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Here is the petition to deport the signers of petitions to seced:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL


10 posted on 11/13/2012 3:30:03 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

I think it’s silly, even if the number of petitioners would fill a football stadium. You should go to We The People and see what important petitions are currently up, there are 108 of them.

One had something to do with getting Limbaugh off Armed Forces Radio and the answer was “no”, not from the president but someone he appointed to answer.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 3:31:07 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

True it could be motivated by the left to give the right a black eye.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 3:31:50 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Thanks Mozilla!


13 posted on 11/13/2012 3:32:41 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

There could be petitions from both sides of an issue or opinion and it could go on forever..


14 posted on 11/13/2012 3:34:53 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla
One question though -- except for the first CW obviously, has this ever happened before after an election?

Has the election of a president ever generated any petitions, let alone this many, in the past?

15 posted on 11/13/2012 3:35:36 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: DBrow

Sure. No problem.


16 posted on 11/13/2012 3:35:41 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Can Arizona join Texas? I hope so.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 3:36:55 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I would say it is rare other than now and in 1861 when the states actually left the union. This re-election of Obama has generated a lot of buzz to leave the union,


18 posted on 11/13/2012 3:38:41 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Let those states that wish to leave secede from the United States
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/228/644/059/let-those-states-that-wish-to-leave-seceed-from-the-united-states/


19 posted on 11/13/2012 3:39:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: pacpam
Sounds like the attitude of King George of England when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
20 posted on 11/13/2012 3:39:37 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mozilla

Of course he can’t be for the idea - until he is pushed to have a binding state referendum on the idea. (to put an end to this petition non-sense)


21 posted on 11/13/2012 3:39:55 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Mozilla

I’ll never sign anything on that web site because I don’t want anyone associated with this admin to know what I think about them. They know enough already.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 3:41:45 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Mozilla

alternatively since there are thirty and a majority, they should purge the remaining 20 from the union.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 3:43:40 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Mozilla

30 States did NOT petition for secession. Some people signed some petitions. Big difference.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 3:52:42 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Mozilla

We need to close ranks, unite our fractions and fight the socialists within. The GOP should be screaming out-loud about all of these things that the Obama administration is doing. The GOP should admit publicly that apart of the democratic party seeks America as a communist region. I know it’s sounds extreme for our leaders to do this but eventually, someone has got to say it on the national stage. Now, we are watching this remake of America to continue without any substantial objections. The GOP has been to blame for a lot of this since they govern as political correctness politicians. What has this approach given us!? Get angry, go back to the principles of the country/heck to media/they will never accept us. Don’t let the media break your will or to conform you.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 3:54:05 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Mozilla
If this turns out to be more than the discontented murmurings of a single state, this story may get ugly.

Why? Who/What would be causing the ugliness?

26 posted on 11/13/2012 3:58:28 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Mozilla

If libs are behind this, it could be intended to lead to a Constitutional Convention, which the Left would just love so they could write us a new constitution.

I don’t think so, however.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 4:01:57 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Mozilla

Ohio does have a petition up, it was put up last evening, and currently has about 100 signatures.

Please encourage your contact lists to sign on, as well. All support is appreciated.

http://wh.gov/9Hw3


28 posted on 11/13/2012 4:09:01 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: DBrow

Thank you. I signed all of them except for New York


29 posted on 11/13/2012 4:22:18 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: pacpam

Time to start a petition to have the signers of that petition publicly mocked for thinking it’s unpatriotic to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 4:26:52 PM PST by MN Mitch
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To: Repeal 16-17
Why? Who/What would be causing the ugliness?


31 posted on 11/13/2012 4:32:51 PM PST by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: pacpam

“Now I read there is a petition to take the signers of the secession request, strip them of their citizenship and deport them. Anyone surprised?”

These leftist worms wouldn’t have the guts to crawl out of their holes and deport anyone. Sometime, when you haven’t a thing to do and are feeling feisty, follow a leftist into a dark parking lot with no witnesses around and question his 20 IQ ameba brainpower and call him a Nazi. Be sure to leave space when he starts peeing in his pants.

Geez, these American leftists are friggin’ cowards and wimps. Prepare to kick their arses. We’re about to enter phase #3 of the imminent civil war II.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 4:43:23 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Repeat Offender

Nobody needs to see that. I just had dinner.


33 posted on 11/13/2012 4:48:10 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Mozilla

Nothing to see here.
If they won’t or can’t deport the illegals in the US
why should they deport peaceful protesters????


34 posted on 11/13/2012 4:56:34 PM PST by YOMO
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To: SandRat

TX & AZ have an enormous list of things in common, my friend. I traveled AZ many years and loved the people there.

I do not support secession, yet.

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!” ~Barry Goldwater 1964


35 posted on 11/13/2012 4:57:56 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“Has the election of a president ever generated any petitions, let alone this many, in the past? “

These petitions mean nothing. I can sign a petition for a New York secession, for instance. These are not binding and not important. I’d put up one demanding that the UN move to the Falklands, but I don’t want to sign up at the WH.

As for your question, this is the first time the White House put a “create any petition you want” page on their website. Washington’s webpage had nothing like it, nor did Reagan’s!


36 posted on 11/13/2012 5:07:37 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Mozilla

Yeah, Mr. Perry said it won’t happen. We need to be signing a recall petition.

I will be sure to vote one more time. It’ll be against the retard Perry. And I really do think there’s something mentally wrong with this man.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 5:55:13 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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What’s needed are petitions to recall every rino and boner if they negotiate with obama. And the petitions should be originated in each politician’s district.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 6:02:28 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: admin

I need to change my screen name. How do I do it?


39 posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:49 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: SandRat

I like your idea better. Forget about seceding from the US for now. For instance, IL could secede from Cook County and join up with Indiana. There are big differences in how people live in Chicago and how they live in downstate IL. They just don’t fit together anymore, yet Chicago controls the state and wins the elections for their crooks to run the state. It would scare the crap out of the Feds. These petitions are silly.


40 posted on 11/13/2012 8:32:47 PM PST by virgil
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To: virgil

Al Capone would approve.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 9:07:14 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mozilla

It’s the, “sign me up for an IRS audit” site.


42 posted on 11/13/2012 9:09:03 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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