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The GOP Canít Afford to Ignore Cities Anymore
TNR ^ | 11/13/12 | DePillis

Posted on 11/13/2012 11:55:33 AM PST by pabianice

After a week of election postmortems, one thing is clear: Mitt Romney’s failure to understand America’s changing demographics led to his undoing. But there was another killer: Geography. Deep blue cities and their inner suburbs came out for Barack Obama, pulling the president through in battleground states like Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. And they put him so far ahead in places like Wisconsin, Nevada, and Pennsylvania that Romney never really had a chance (not to mention his home base of Suffolk County, Massachusetts, which went 78 percent for the president).

Of course, this isn't a new phenomenon. In 2008, Obama took cities even more convincingly, allowing him to win North Carolina and Indiana as well. But America is only growing more urban, with cities that had been losing population since the 1960s finally starting to swell again. Eventually, fast-growing blue cities like San Antonio, Houston, and Austin could bring even the GOP stronghold of Texas within the Democrats' reach. In the long term, the stakes are high: Republicans could be relegated to permanent minority party status.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackvote; bluezones; hispanicvote; outreach; rncstrategy; urban
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This article is full of crap, I know, but I post it because the question is valid: can conservatives ever again win a presidential election when the Liberals' 40-year strategy of creating more and more dumbed-down city "gimmees" keeps increasing their proportion of the electorate?
1 posted on 11/13/2012 11:55:37 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Nope. It makes no sense to get in a bidding war for the favor of the palms-up crowd. It would be like negotiating with your children about the limits of their candy consumption.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 11:58:36 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: pabianice

I agree with the notion that we should not pander, however, if it weren’t for LA, San Francisco, Chicago, and Philadelphia, the GOP would win CA, IL, and PA and get an additional 5 Senate seats.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 11:59:27 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: pabianice

Sorry, I think the cities need the suburbs and rural areas much more than the suburbs and rural areas need cities.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 12:01:04 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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On the other hand, the left’s fixation in abortion and homosexuality will eventually lead to lower numbers. Unless they, and limp-wristed republicans, allow unlimited illegal immigration.


5 posted on 11/13/2012 12:02:35 PM PST by ABQHispConservative
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I have less in common with a dedicated resident of NYC or Chicago than I do with the average Martian.

Most of what they want is threatening to my core values.

6 posted on 11/13/2012 12:02:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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can conservatives ever again win a presidential election when the Liberals' 40-year strategy of creating more and more dumbed-down city "gimmees" keeps increasing their proportion of the electorate?

Nope.

7 posted on 11/13/2012 12:03:20 PM PST by grobdriver
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Even the small cities, like mine - York, PA, have been conceded by the GOP. We tried to get Republicans elected, I ran for City Controller, and we got zero support from the county GOP organization. We even found our local GOP Congressman Todd Platts supporting the Democrat candidate for mayor.


8 posted on 11/13/2012 12:03:20 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: ABQHispConservative

The left has an inexhaustible breeding program for useful idiots.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 12:04:40 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ABQHispConservative

“On the other hand, the left’s fixation in abortion and homosexuality will eventually lead to lower numbers. Unless they, and limp-wristed republicans, allow unlimited illegal immigration.”

Except that the lefties recruit more into acceptance through the public school system and mass media.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 12:08:33 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: pabianice

Detroit was once a large city of over 1 million.

1.0287 Million
Jul 1990

706,585
Jul 2011

The Dems did with voter fraud what they just couldn’t do with voters.

Don’t buy the BS the GOPe is trying to feed us. We do not need to be like the Dems to win. What we need are clearly defined principles and leaders that are willing to FIGHT for them.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 12:08:41 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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To: pabianice

Without reading the details of how they would do it, I agree with the headline.

But we need to fight to win these places back, not buy into liberalism. It’s not impossible. Republicans got close in Philadelphia not long ago and gee, guess what, the dems played the race card to turn it around.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 12:09:01 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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The cities have bigger chimneys for Barack O Clause to get down.
13 posted on 11/13/2012 12:11:45 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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We should always be taking our case to everybody, and overlook nobody.

It does not mean that we need to sell out and play the same games, but we should be trying to engage everybody.


14 posted on 11/13/2012 12:11:45 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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We’ll lose more than we would gain by trying to appeal to the ghetto dwellers.


15 posted on 11/13/2012 12:13:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: pabianice

The fact is republicans ignore cities and black voters because republicans don’t get any votes from them.

There are many shifts that have been a disaster for our country, and here are some of them:

1 Democrat party shift hard left.

2 Black vote shift hard dem.

3 Black vote shift hard left.

4 Solid dem control of cities.

5 Academia shift hard left.

The list goes on. Fact is republicans let it all happen so they can get elected in the conservative areas, and leave liberal cities to the dems. In the end it’s bad for America for a number of reasons, one big one being we allowed the leftist population to grow and it is almost (not quite) a national majority.


16 posted on 11/13/2012 12:16:38 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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The only demographics that have changed is the gimme! gimme! crowd has now grown larger than the wimpy PC crowd giving the handouts. It’s our own fault for letting our government get so out of control with spending and giving away our hard earned tax dollars.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 12:17:21 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Perdogg

In just a few years those big cities will be smoldering ruins. We just have to keep the zombies contained there before they turn the countryside into zombie wastelands as well.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 12:19:18 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: pabianice
Heads a liberal wins, tails a liberal wins. A conservative could have actually offered a choice for voters...

Let’s see.. 3 million voters who stayed home each election since the last time a conservative was nominated for the GOP ticket, times 5 elections - that’s a landslide right there.

The GOP can no longer afford to ignore the conservative vote.

19 posted on 11/13/2012 12:21:22 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel

“What we need are clearly defined principles and leaders that are willing to FIGHT for them”

Amen, sir, Amen!


20 posted on 11/13/2012 12:22:27 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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