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Goodwin: Excusing Affairs Only Way To Get 'Best People in Public Life,' Like FDR & Clinton
Newsbusters ^ | November 12, 2012 | 17:22 | By Kyle Drennen

Posted on 11/12/2012 3:38:03 PM PST by drewh

Appearing on Sunday's NBC Meet the Press, liberal historian Doris Kearns-Goodwin pleaded for the American people to excuse extramarital affairs of public figures like David Petraeus: "What would we have done if FDR had not been our leader because he had an affair with Lucy Mercer?

Think of the productive years that Clinton could have had if Monica Lewinsky hadn't derailed them.

We've got to figure out a way that we give a private sphere for our public leaders.

We're not gonna get the best people in public life if we don't do that."

Kearns-Goodwin lamented how public officials today are held to moral standards: "I wish we could go back to the time when the private lives of our public figures were relevant only if they directly affected their public responsibilities.

This man was a great general, a great leader, and for his career to come to an end because of a private matter that affects his family and him and evidently doesn't have national security concerns."

The Washington Post's Bob Woodward then completely dismantled her argument: "Unfortunately, for the CIA Director, he has special status and he's got to be clean.

He can't be blackmailed or threatened or even deal with the anxiety, 'My God, are they gonna find out about her?' And he did the right thing."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2012/11/12/doris-kearns-goodwin-excusing-affairs-only-way-get-best-people-public-#ixzz2C3QX0783


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1 posted on 11/12/2012 3:38:08 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Doris Keans Goodwin isn’t exactly an upstanding citizen herself. She is an admitted plagiarist. Had to quit being a commentator on PBS (though she is now back on NPR). As long as you’re sufficiently left wing you can get away with murder.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 3:42:38 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: drewh

FDR = huge disaster for America

Clinton = disaster for America


3 posted on 11/12/2012 3:43:14 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: drewh

Well, it certainly helped Barb Walters’ rise to power.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 3:44:21 PM PST by Fido969
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To: drewh

I seriously doubt much anyone knew about FDR’s affair. That was an age when the media didn’t thrive on personal scandal, and stuck to real news. Hell, I believe most folks didn’t even know about his handicap.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 3:44:27 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: drewh

Depending on how high your rank is - the level of allowable crime increases. In DKG’s world the president should be allowed to commit murder with impunity.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 3:46:15 PM PST by jakota (jakota)
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To: KoRn

True it was a closely held secret back then that POTUS could barely stand on his own.


7 posted on 11/12/2012 3:46:21 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Therefore we need to get the best adulterers money can buy and put them in leadership positions. Sheesh!


8 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:21 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SERKIT

I nominate Tiger Woods. As long as we have a prez who golfs more than he attends security briefings, we should at least have one who’s good at it by now.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 3:49:30 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: drewh

“True it was a closely held secret back then that POTUS could barely stand on his own”

But the winkie must have been spared?


10 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:31 PM PST by Cyman
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To: La Lydia

She ought to know since she was banging LBJ.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:48 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: drewh
...Like FDR & Clinton

Two commie criminals. Nice examples.

12 posted on 11/12/2012 3:52:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: drewh

I didn’t know Monica Lewinski derailed Bill Clinton.

I thought he derailed himself,beating off in the White House sink while using a cigar for a dildo.

I know that’s a pretty crude description, but how else can you describe it? It’s the facts.

Oh “ We could probably dress it up a little, but that is the problem now too many people want to dress up the facts.
Make it sound more palatable, but how sick is it for a grown man, the President of the United States to use an impressionable young woman for a humidor.At least Patreaus picked a woman and had sex with her, nothing like sicko Bill.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 3:53:30 PM PST by Venturer
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To: drewh

What the want is to have it both ways. Would she have looked the other way if GWB were fooling around? Not on your life. If they want to run the country, they will at least have to keep their pants zipped.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 3:55:14 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: drewh

Lying is OK.
Cheating is OK.
Stealing is OK.
Plagiarizing is OK.
I suppose Doris the plagiarist thinks Biden is so highly qualified, it’s worth ignoring his own plagiarism.
She probably had a lot of great excuses for Teddy, the Lion of Chappaquiddick, too.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 3:56:07 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: drewh

did the plagiarizer mean that to be hilarious?


16 posted on 11/12/2012 3:57:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Venturer

Trying to prevent a private citizen, Paula Jones, from pursuing a legitimate lawsuit didn’t matter. Dem lawlessness is now the new norm. Their lawlessness is laudable and necessary for a just society. When the cause is noble (staying in office) criminal acts are noble. 0bama is the most noble of all.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 3:58:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: drewh
Think of the productive years that Clinton could have had if Monica Lewinsky hadn't derailed them.

First of all, Lewinski didn't derail them, Clinton did.

Secondly, the advent of Ecommerce and Y2K and the jobs they created would have occurred regardless of who was in the White House. Likewise, the need for techs to set up the servers for Ecommerce and remedy the mainframes for Y2K would not have continued once these tasks were finished if Clinton was still in the White House. In fact, it didn't, and the tech bubble bust started a year before Clinton left office.

Clinton came in when the economy was already growing for a year and nine months, and after the end of the Cold War had opened world markets to facilitate the advent of Ecommerce. He had nothing to do with any of this, and none of this would have continued if he had kept his pants on.

18 posted on 11/12/2012 3:59:43 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: drewh
Earth to Doris: IF THEY ARE HAVING AFFAIRS, THEY ARE NOT THE BEST PEOPLE!! There ARE still a few moral absolutes, woman.
19 posted on 11/12/2012 4:00:40 PM PST by TXBlair (What the crap is wrong with you, America???)
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To: drewh
Eisenhower would still be a lieutenant if he hadn't been screwing Roosevelt's daughter!
20 posted on 11/12/2012 4:04:09 PM PST by dalereed
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To: drewh

Doris might be ready to excuse moral turpitude. I’m not.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 4:05:25 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Posting just to revert to a previous sig line.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 4:07:20 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: drewh
"I wish we could go back to the time when the private lives of our public figures were relevant only if they directly affected their public responsibilities.

So, it's OK with you that the Chief's girlfriend knows top secret stuff about who asked for help in Benghazi ?

How does that NOT affect his "public responsibilities" ? ? ?

23 posted on 11/12/2012 4:07:59 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: drewh
Character counts....

DKW... take notes

24 posted on 11/12/2012 4:08:49 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: drewh

Ya, cuz ya know “the best people” either have no standards, or are incapable of living up to them...../sarc


25 posted on 11/12/2012 4:09:16 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: BenLurkin

BJ Clinton is SCUM and always will be SCUM.

He defiled and disrespected the People’s House.

He is a sexual deviant and predator of women.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 4:09:28 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: La Lydia

What Doris is actually saying: “Hey I interned for a Democratic president and wrote a bunch of fawning biographies just like this bimbo, yet I never got rogered due to my Muppet-like face and total lack of sex appeal.”


27 posted on 11/12/2012 4:12:00 PM PST by Callahan
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To: drewh

Actually, Clinton was nailed for suborning perjury.

Since the MSM prefers to paint conservatives as prudes, they trivialize Clinton’s crime as “just sex”, which, of course is a lie.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 4:12:06 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: TurboZamboni

I nominate Tiger Woods.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
In the ‘heat of the moment’ Tiger (as well as many NBA players) slipped my mind...

First one to pop up as possibly the BEST President ever would be Mickey Rooney.

9 wives, several affairs and he weren’t but about 5’1 +- guess he wasn’t entirely diminutive.

With the 9 wives he doesn’t really need affairs to enhance his resume`.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 4:13:24 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: jakota

“In DKG’s world the president should be allowed to commit murder with impunity.”

Well, with the way they blindly accept his authority to terminate US citizens with the push of a button via drone strikes, I’d say that is a spot on assessment.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: drewh

Doris Kearns Goodwin: Electing people who are in favor of sticking scissors in babies’ necks and sucking out the brains is the only way to get the best people in public life.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 4:13:45 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you are against sticking scissors in a baby's neck and sucking out the brains, you are anti-woman)
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To: Callahan

She did get rogered—by LBJ.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 4:17:37 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you are against sticking scissors in a baby's neck and sucking out the brains, you are anti-woman)
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To: drewh
liberal historian Doris Kearns-Goodwin pleaded for the American people to excuse extramarital affairs of public figures

If someone sneaks around and does not care if he hurts his spouse,then he might sneak around and not care if he is corrupt.

33 posted on 11/12/2012 4:19:13 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: drewh
Article 134— Adultery

Maximum punishment: Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

34 posted on 11/12/2012 4:19:46 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: RobinOfKingston

As if nailing a married woman with two kids on the side a mark of being in total control of your professional life.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 4:19:50 PM PST by Callahan
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To: drewh

Actually I have some sympathy for FDR and Clinton. Eleanor and Hillary! ‘Nuff said.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 4:21:30 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: Arthur McGowan

Lol. My apologies to Doris, the little trollup. I just Googled it. That makes her comment even more self-serving and hilarious. LBJ must have been willing to bag anything.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 4:24:33 PM PST by Callahan
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To: drewh

Don’t watch NBC . Isn’t Goodwin the guy from lost who cheated on his wife and later ended up getting killed?


38 posted on 11/12/2012 4:25:36 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Callahan
LBJ must have been willing to bag anything.

He was, indeed.

39 posted on 11/12/2012 4:27:28 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Venturer

Obama dies and goes to Hell.

When he gets down there, the Devil says “Look. Here’s the problem. After four years of your administration, there simply isn’t any room. But here’s the thing: No matter what, you aren’t leaving. But here is what I can do. You can choose someone else’s Hell, and take their place...and we will send that person to Heaven.”

Obama thinks for a second, and says “That doesn’t sound any good. What do I get out of it?”

The Devil says “You get a choice of Hell. Otherwise, we assign one to you.” The Devil flashed an evil, malicious grin and said “You really don’t want that, do you?”

Obama says “Right. I see your point. What do you have to offer?”

The Devil opens a door, and as they peer inside, they see a large pool of dark water with Ted Kennedy trying to grab a breath, gasping as his face breaks the surface. A Devil’s assistant with a pitchfork immediately jabs Kennedy in the face, driving him back under. Obama grimaces and says “Hm. Not for me.”

The Devil opens another door, and Richard Nixon is on a spit being roasted by klieg lights as he screams over and over “I am not a crook! I am not a crook!” Obama says “Ugh. Now THAT looks like Hell. Do you have anything else for me to look at?”

The Devil opens the next door, and Bill Clinton is lying on his back, naked, while Monica Lewinsky does what she does best. Obama says “Hey. I could handle this for all eternity! I’ll take this one!”

The Devil taps Monica on the shoulder and says “Monica...get packed...you’re leaving for Heaven!


40 posted on 11/12/2012 4:32:03 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

Now that’s funny. I don’t care who you are.


41 posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:55 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: La Lydia
"...as long as you are sufficiently left wing you can get away with murder..."


42 posted on 11/12/2012 4:48:02 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: beef

Heh, made me laugh when someone told it to me. Didn’t see the ending coming.

But then I thought, if it really went to the end, Obama would say “Hey! I thought this was supposed to be Hell!”


43 posted on 11/12/2012 4:49:29 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: drewh

Words.
Fail.
Me.
[shaking head]


44 posted on 11/12/2012 4:55:50 PM PST by jagusafr
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To: rlmorel

Now that’s even FUNNIER!

LOL


45 posted on 11/12/2012 4:57:54 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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46 posted on 11/12/2012 5:07:52 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: beef
“What the [Left] want is to have it both ways. Would she have looked the other way if GWB were fooling around? Not on your life.”

No, they don't want it both ways. The Leftists do not have ANY moral code, so there is no behavior they can be criticized for. However, as Alinsky taught: be sure to excoriate any conservative who fails to live up to his own high moral code!

(BTW: I'm NOT implying Betrayus/Betrayher/Betraythem is a conservative.)

47 posted on 11/12/2012 5:08:56 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

I know what you mean. Dems do not have any standards so therefore in their minds they cannot be held to any.


48 posted on 11/12/2012 5:23:35 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: La Lydia

And, the story goes, she had a roll in the hay with LBJ when she was an aide to him.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:24 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: drewh

Gee, giving the excuse to act like a rabbit. No morales or values, just screw and have more rabbits. Look at the national bird as a symbol - one mate. Gee a pretty set of legs makes for a 4 Star general to drop his draws. In WWII George patton slapped a coward for cowardice and the people wanted him to step down. Oddly enough this General should be set in front of the Congress and be informed he will talk. When he is done talking, take him out and cut his balls off and than parade him through the streets of DC in all his glory. He will always remember that he needs to keep zipper zipped.


50 posted on 11/12/2012 5:51:58 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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