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Petraeus Affair: Military Can Prosecute Adulterers
ABC OTUS News ^ | Nov 12, 2012 | MARTHA RADDATZ

Posted on 11/12/2012 11:05:40 AM PST by robowombat

Retired Gen. David Petraeus, who resigned as CIA director last week after admitting an extramarital relationship, could possibly face military prosecution for adultery if officials turn up any evidence to counter his apparent claims that the affair began after he left the military. The affair between Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell, both of whom are married, began several months after his retirement from the Army in August 2011 and ended four months ago, retired U.S. Army Col. Steve Boylan, a former Petraeus spokesman, told ABC News. Broadwell, 40, had extraordinary access to the 60-year-old general during six trips she took to Afghanistan as his official biographer, a plum assignment for a novice writer. "For him to allow the very first biography to be written about him, to be written by someone who had never written a book before, seemed very odd to me," former Petraeus aide Peter Mansoor told ABC News. The timeline of the relationship, according to Patraeus, would mean that he was carrying on the affair for the majority of his tenure at the CIA, where he began as director Sept. 6, 2011. If he carried on the affair while serving in the Army, however, Patraeus could face charges, according to Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which reprimands conduct "of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces." Whether the military would pursue such action, whatever evidence it accumulates, is unclear. As the details of the investigation launched by the FBI unraveled this weekend, it became clear that the woman at the heart of the inquiry that led to Petraeus' downfall had been identified as Jill Kelley, a Florida woman who volunteers to help the military. She is a family friend of Petraeus, who Broadwell apparently felt threatened by.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adultery; bhocia; duplicate; fired; navyseals; petraeus; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi
Worth reading entire article. Note who wrote this.
1 posted on 11/12/2012 11:05:42 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
So ABC is all over this sex scandal, but not Obama's gun running scandal Fast & Furious nor Obama's "Stand Down" scandal.
2 posted on 11/12/2012 11:10:06 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: robowombat
Will Paula Broadwell be prosecuted too? She is also military (Reserve).
3 posted on 11/12/2012 11:11:47 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: robowombat
When I was in the Army, a Sergeant and Lieutenant came to blows because the Sergeant caught the Lieutenant fooling around with his wife. It wasn't the Sergeant that got booted.
4 posted on 11/12/2012 11:13:51 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Can he be prosecuted by the military for an affair that started after he left the military. Can Martha Radditz be arrested for impersonating a journalist?


5 posted on 11/12/2012 11:18:17 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: robowombat

This is only salacious material designed to deflect the attention from Obama. I don’t care if Patreaus banged the entire Rocketts Dancing Troupe, get to the bottom of the neglect of duty or any blackmail that was possible by nefarious individuals or campaigns.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 11:18:35 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: TexasCajun
So ABC is all over this sex scandal, but not Obama's gun running scandal Fast & Furious nor Obama's "Stand Down" scandal.

As head of the CIA, Petraeus may have had access to information about 0bama that could be very interesting - e.g., his REAL BC and place of birth, details of rumored homosexual trysts, details about his activities in Indonesia, Pakistan and while in college, as well as, his involvement in Fast and Furious, passing weapons to Mid East radical groups and of course his traitorous actions regarding Benghazi. I don't think it is wise for the 0bama regime to try to smear him over an affair with all this potentially damaging info that could be brought up. There's got to be much more here than meets the eye. What am I missing?

7 posted on 11/12/2012 11:21:30 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: robowombat

I wonder what the military will do when a homosexual man cheats on his “husband.”


8 posted on 11/12/2012 11:23:48 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

Give him the Sodomy medal?


9 posted on 11/12/2012 11:32:17 AM PST by EEGator
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To: robowombat
Petraeus is a schmuck !

He was taken down by a KGB "swallow"


10 posted on 11/12/2012 11:36:34 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: robowombat

Didn’t Lee Marvin say something about this in The Dirty Dozen? Something about locking up half the army... officers included.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 11:37:15 AM PST by ILS21R
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To: robowombat; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
I have read almost every article written about this mess...and trust me, no two have the same information. Every one of them is different in one or two relevent factoids...or unfactoids as the case may be. I am starting to think these nitwits have been told to just go at it with gusto...and they have.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

12 posted on 11/12/2012 11:41:50 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

Question: Would the FBI have been able to investigate Petraeus if he was still in the Middle East or did he have to be on American soil?

Probably a silly question but it seems the affair was pretty well known so wondering on why O promoted him to CIA knowing this (and I think O did know) if not for reasons to destroy him.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 11:47:56 AM PST by bunster
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To: TexasCajun
I guess Petraeus won't get the “Courageous Restraint” medal.
14 posted on 11/12/2012 11:55:56 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TexasCajun

Yes you are correct. The moral and ethical lapse is being carefully used to create a huge dust storm to cover up the really important issues of the circumstances surrounding the Benghazi incident and what really lays behind Fast and Furious.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 11:58:50 AM PST by robowombat
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Yes, and both the gun running operation at the heart of the Benghazi incident and fast and Furious are CIA operations. DOJ is just being the beard for Fast and Furious real operators.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 12:00:44 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

yes. Little miss 3 mins for you my lord master,...shut up romney we’re not talking about that anymore. that missy Raddatz?


17 posted on 11/12/2012 12:13:55 PM PST by annieokie
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To: robowombat

Or to discredit a major Benghazi witness.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 12:27:18 PM PST by virgil
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To: robowombat

We need a timeline. I wouldn’t think the Army would do anything if the affair only took place after he retired. If he had an affair on Active Duty, then, yes, they could call him back to Active Duty even for just one day to punish him. Would they? Probably not unless someone was pushing it. The Army probably already has The Inspector General watching this just in case. Most Army Officers don’t realize they are Army Officers until they die. Once you’re sworn in as an Officer, your name is in the Army computer until you die. Broadwell is a different story. It would actually depend on her status at the time she had any sexual contact with Petraeus. If she was on Active Duty, then, yeah, I believe they can go after her, if they want to. If she was in weekend status or Annual Training (2 week) status or just ready reserve or “civilian” status, then it becomes much tougher. And like anything else, it depends on how mad the Army is and how good a lawyer she gets.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 12:35:28 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: robowombat
Let me get this straight: A military man can be prosecuted and jailed for having sex out of wedlock with a woman, but it's "Okay" to cornhole another gay üntermensch absent legitimate marital status?

This country is finished. It's all over but the shouting, screaming and weeping. Grab your ankles and pretend to like it, if you know what's good for you.

Time to dust off the belt-fed.

;-\

20 posted on 11/12/2012 12:37:09 PM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: massgopguy
"Can he be prosecuted by the military for an affair that started after he left the military."

Even if he was caught with her under a desk while he was on active duty they wouldn't have prosecuted him; it would have ended the same way. It's one of those "distinguished amazing americans that have give so much, blah, blah, blah...he's suffered enough" things that everyone says before they let a cop or legislator off scott-free because of their "years of dedicated and enthusastic public service".


21 posted on 11/12/2012 12:37:41 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: vetvetdoug
"get to the bottom of the neglect of duty or any blackmail that was possible by nefarious individuals or campaigns."

The neglect of duty is the ONLY thing. I bet he can pin a lot of crap on the white hut that proves the kenyan pulled the plug on any Benghazi assistance.

Impeach the kenyan

22 posted on 11/12/2012 12:44:34 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Will Paula Broadwell be prosecuted too? She is also military (Reserve).

Interesting, if she is prosecuted, she can testify to when the affair really began. Given the abruptness upon which Petraeus was whisked to Washington and retired, it is logical to conclude word of the affair was known in Afghanistan.

Fox News Jennifer Griffin reported Sunday night that her sources told her it was known in common circles of the affair while Petraeus was still in Afghanistan. Furthermore, her sources said the FBI had to have known of the affair as it would have emerged during the vetting process for Petraeus’s confirmation.

23 posted on 11/12/2012 12:46:03 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: blueunicorn6
"Most Army Officers don’t realize they are Army Officers until they die. Once you’re sworn in as an Officer, your name is in the Army computer until you die."

That's not entirely correct. A retired officer remains on the Army's rolls and may be recalled to the day he dies.

Similarly, all retired personnel, officer or enlisted who are eligible for retirement pay remain subject to the UCMJ, although this is rarely exercised.

An officer who has completed all his service obligations and tenders an unqualified resignation before retirement eligibility is not subject to recall.

24 posted on 11/12/2012 1:01:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MestaMachine

Amazing isn’t it? A Friday news dump and a holiday weekend and we know all this in 3 days and still nothing about Fast and Furious, Benghazi etc.

Just sayin’!!! ;)


25 posted on 11/12/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Once you’re in the computer, you’re in the computer. You can resign your commission, but you’re still in the computer. An enlistment is a contract to serve for a given time. No problems unless the Chinese invade us, then, you’re in the computer.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 1:34:35 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
If he had an affair on Active Duty,

She was imbedded with him in Iraq, and wrote a book, called I think "All In"

27 posted on 11/12/2012 2:37:16 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: blueunicorn6
I was a commissioned officer who completed my statutory 8 year MSO (and then some). I submitted an unqualified resignation, and declined appointment to the Reserve or IRR.

Cite the legal authority by which I may be recalled. Even if the Chinese invade us.

28 posted on 11/12/2012 2:42:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Persevero

That is fascinating. IMHO it will be treated as Sgt Schultz treated breaches of discipline on his watch.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 3:13:33 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

It is fascinating, isn’t it? Have they thought this through?

Do homos get discharged for cheating on their man? If not, why should heteros? It seems to me that adultery will soon be allowed.

Either that, or we will be in the bizarre situation of punishing a man for stepping out on his “partner.”


30 posted on 11/12/2012 5:00:39 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Eight years...hmmmm....then you probably completed your Officer Basic and Advanced Courses. That means they have your name, your branch and in the next column where it says “Qualified”, there will be a “Y”. Call or write the Army and tell them that you demand to have all your written records, originals and all copies, sent to you and all electronic records of your service completely erased.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 5:02:31 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Persevero

Right now there are a lot more lavender ladies in uniform than homo males. So a good many are bi or bi sort of as well. Just think about the interesting situations when the ladies can wed and then stray with another lady or a man in uniform. I knew a very attractive MSGT who described herself to a few friends as a ‘selectively heterosexual lesbian’. OK just imagine where this is going to go with the end of DADT. The so called leadership just did a Sgt Schultz on even starting to think this stuff through.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 5:08:28 PM PST by robowombat
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To: blueunicorn6

Again, cite the legal authority by which I may be recalled...


33 posted on 11/12/2012 5:12:18 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Are you seriously asking or are you just trying to be cute? I don’t have time for cute.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 7:19:23 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
"I don’t have time for cute."

Or to cite a source, apparently.

35 posted on 11/12/2012 7:21:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oh, Joe, I tried to play nice with you on this, but you want to be stupid so here goes.
You jumped in on my post to show everyone how smart you are. I didn’t jump in on your post. You said, I believe, That’s not quite true.” OK. Cite me your source on that.
It has been several years since I have had to research United States Code and Department of Defense Regulations and Department of the Army Regulations. But, I did have to research them. The Army paid me some pretty good money to do this research. I would be happy to do research for you. My fee is $500 per hour with a minimum of 10 hours. For people like you, I require that I be paid upfront. So that you understand, that is $5,000. Please remit this money to Jim Robinson at Free Republic. Enclose copies of our e-mails. Jim has my e-mail and we can coordinate for me to receive the $5,000 from him. Upon my recept of that money, I will begin doing the research of all United States Code, all Department of Defense Regulations and all Department of the Army Regulations. I will contact various people in and out of the government and military. I will use a precise clock. After 10 hours, I will require another $5,000 to keep researching for you. You can see that at the end of the week, this will amount to $20,000. I estimate that it will take me a month to do the research you have asked for. Now, if you don’t want to send me $80,000, I’ll give you the short answer that maybe you can understand.
Can the United States Government force American citizens to serve in the Armed Forces of the United States? If you say no, then I refer you to fellow FReepers from the Vietnam War era and they can inform you about something called “The Draft”. If you say yes, then you agree with me unless you can show me some magic “I No Longer Am Subject To Service Card”. I’ve never seen one of those and I’d be glad to see yours. I have contacted the local Porsche dealer and told him that you will be paying for my new 911. If not, don’t butt in on other people’s post trying to show everyone how cute and clever you are. I eagerly wait for your money.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 10:00:26 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
"You jumped in on my post to show everyone how smart you are."

Nope. I responded to your post to correct the record.

"That’s not quite true.” OK. Cite me your source on that."

LOL...You want me to cite the source that allows for my recall when no such source exists? That's like asking somebody to cite the law or regulation that prevents the live trapping and ownership of unicorns.

"Can the United States Government force American citizens to serve in the Armed Forces of the United States?"

Of course the government could effect provisions of the Selective Service Act, compelling service of anybody (except those specifically exempted by the act), but there you're really parsing. In that case, I, or others in my situation, would be called up, NOT because of our prior service affiliation, but because of our citizenship making us no different than any other person subject to the act. If the system stayed the same, our prior years of service would be calculated into our pay, and presumably we would enter at or just below the last rank held, however, having resigned my commission, Congress would have to re-commission me, or I would go in at an enlisted grade. As such, for me and those in my situation, selection would not have anything to do with us being "recalled" so much as it was being "called" just like any other peson subject to the act.

Right now, persons subject to the act are those 18 - 26, so technically speaking there is no provision for recalling me. I believe a Presidential proclomation is all that would be required to expand that age, but as it stands right now, there is no such provision. So when I ask for you to cite the law or regulatory authority, you would be citing something that might come into being, but you really could cite nothing that currently exists.

37 posted on 11/13/2012 4:50:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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