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Few rape kits tested in Colorado; Police say it's not necessary, victims think otherwise
Denver News Channel 7 ^ | 11/11/2012 | Keli Rabon

Posted on 11/12/2012 8:14:47 AM PST by george76

Colorado police departments are collecting hundreds of rape kits, but a CALL7 Investigation found many of those are not tested. And experts and victims tell us that is a problem because those kits may allow police to identify serial rapists by putting any DNA into a national database.

Kelly Binder says she was drugged and raped two years ago by a man she met at a bar in downtown Denver. She is upset police didn't test her rape kit because she is concerned her attacker could still be raping other people.

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Binder feels like she's been victimized twice -- once by her attacker, and again by the system that was supposed to protect her.

"The fact that my rape kit test, was never submitted into the system, just allows another predator to go free, to do this again to somebody else," Binder said.

None of the departments interviewed for this story could say how many total rape kits were being held in storage, or how many total had been tested.

CALL7 Investigators found several states and large cities have laws that require all rape kits to be tested and the U.S. Department of Justice is working on rules that will direct jurisdictions on the best practices for testing those rape kits.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: corruption; donutwatch; leo; rape

1 posted on 11/12/2012 8:14:50 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

I wouldn’t expect much from the government on this. God forbid they have to actually to their jobs to catch these criminals.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 8:22:13 AM PST by formosa (consider me galt)
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To: george76

“I got drunk and met a man in a bar, and . . . .”

I guess I’d better not go there. Look what happened to Akin.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 8:28:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

You suffer from extremely poor comprehension reading skills.

She didn’t say she got drunk, she was drugged. Date rape drugs do exist.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:06 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine; Cicero

Yes, date rape drugs do exist and so do rapists! And get this, they both exist in bars!

What’s the lesson a conservative should learn?

- Raise taxes to pay for rape kits.

or

- Don’t hang out in bars.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 9:19:48 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: george76

All that testing would divert precious money that otherwise could be spent on pay for unionized workers (cops).


6 posted on 11/12/2012 9:24:44 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: donna

Right, because rapes only take place in bars.

Perhaps the better solution is weed through waste and use the funds to actually fight crime.


7 posted on 11/12/2012 9:55:45 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: donna; autumnraine

Well, I confess I only read the part of the article that was posted in the forum.

On the other hand, I don’t think it’s the smartest idea in the world to drink with or pick up strangers in bars, or to go into bars alone, without a friend or two to watch your back.

It’s a free world. But I think it’s probably better to avoid drinking with strangers in bars, or agreeing to leave with them, than it is to have a date-rape kit so you can send the rapist to jail after you get raped. Rather limited satisfaction in that.

In other words, avoid the situations where you get date-raped, and things will go better.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 10:14:20 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I agree that it’s not safe, and obviously wasn’t a good idea. But I also don’t think that the victim is at fault, and the police need to spend funds to catch criminals.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 10:16:14 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Cicero

What about the women who don’t meet their rapist in a bar? How about those that meet their rapist while they are in their home or out jogging- or at the mall? Rapists should be caught and it seems evidence to do so may likely be found by testing a rape kit. Many rapists are serial rapists and some become serial killers as well. If not caught they are loose to pray on all women.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 10:20:22 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: donna

“Raise taxes to pay for rape kits or don’t hang out in bars”.

It isn’t that simple. I am sure the police department is adequately funded. The money is probably being diverted from the lab budget to other things. I don’t blame this victim one bit for being outraged that “her” rape DNA test results were considered “not necessary”.

Secondly, I know a homicide/rape detective. There are no one time rapists. All rapists are serial rapists. So the rapists that preys on a woman in a bar today will be the rapist that preys on a woman in a park, public library, mall parking lot, community college or hospital parking lot tomorrow. By entering the DNA from a rape into a nationwide computer system, you raise the possibility of actually catching the bad guy.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 10:23:07 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Cicero

So women should give up freedom in exchange for security so that the government can continue to waste taxpayer dollars rather than actually do the job that government is supposed to do.

Obama logic.


12 posted on 11/12/2012 10:30:48 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: momtothree
There are no one time rapists. All rapists are serial rapists.

Same with child molesters. I've never had the local LE follow through on anything I've reported over the last 20 years. Even doing the footwork for them, everything goes into file 13 so this story isn't surprising.

13 posted on 11/12/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

I am beyond cynical when it comes to LE and their use of their budgets. Want to bet if the daughter, wife, sister or mother of a LEO is raped that their kit is processed? What sickens me is what the rape victim consents to for the kit in order to catch the perp. They are photographed, every bruise/cut is noted, an internal exam/swabs by a doctor, their hair is combed through (all places), their fingernails scrapped and they go over every detail over and over. When I was in college, I worked security for a hospital and sometimes it required me to be a female witness in the room. Many times, the rape victim just wanted to go home, shower and try to get on with their lives. What pushed many of these women to consent was the statement, “If we can catch your rapist, no other girl/woman will have to be raped by him.” Many of the victims endured the kit in order to prevent another person from being attacked.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 10:57:05 AM PST by momtothree
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To: autumnraine; momtothree

Well then, you “conservatives” have decided that raising taxes, rather than responsible behavior, will solve ALL rapes.

Very expansive of you.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 11:01:30 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

You believe only those that are not behaving are raped? Really? Many women that are raped are at home in their bed sleeping and awaken to a stranger raping them. What did those women do wrong?

I think law enforcement should use their funding more wisely, I do think rape kits and other evidence should be processed as it helps catch repeat offenders and get them off the street.

Many law enforcement agencies spend the majority of their funding for military gear and military type training. I would rather they divert some of those funds to evidence testing.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 11:34:39 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8
You believe only those that are not behaving are raped?

If you can't respond to what I did say, don't makeup stuff, okay?

17 posted on 11/12/2012 12:17:46 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

Yes, we should totally lock women away so as to prevent taxes from being raised to fund finding criminals.

I totally forgot that rapists never break into homes or anything.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 1:20:40 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

See post #17.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 1:29:01 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna; autumnraine

“you conservatives have decided that raising taxes, rather than responsible behavior will solve all rapes”

What I suggested is that the police budget be arranged so that their lab run efficiently to protect the citizens that pay taxes that go to law enforcement. I really balk at the concept that a woman drinking in a bar is somehow responsible to be brutalized. What about the woman jogging in a park? Is she responsible? What about a woman living alone... is she responsible? Or, how about a case that is somewhat near my area... an old woman raped in her nursing home bed. Is she responsible? I don’t believe that a person suggesting the POLICE DO THEIR DARN JOB is expansive. Responsible, yes.. not expansive. Have a good day!


20 posted on 11/12/2012 2:01:23 PM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

What’s the lesson a conservative should learn?
- Raise taxes to pay for rape kits.
or
- Don’t hang out in bars.

Then you’re a vote for raise taxes.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 3:35:48 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

“Then you’re a vote for raise taxes”.

Let’s try this again in English. It’s a vote for law enforcement managing their financial budgets to include rape kit analysis. This isn’t raising taxes... it is using the same amount of money fiscally responsibly. Instead of buying brand new, shiny police cars... keep the older cars maintained and spend the money on analysis. Instead of buying a tank, increasing their SWAT units, etc... it is spending the same money on analysis. The budget remains the same but gee... maybe they can catch a bad guy once in a while. Sheesh... what is with you? Every woman or girl that is raped is a drunken slut asking for it?


22 posted on 11/12/2012 3:46:16 PM PST by momtothree
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To: donna

When you’re in a hole Donna, stop digging.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 4:00:32 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Cicero
In other words, avoid the situations where you get date-raped, and things will go better.

So, another blame the victim idea.

If all single women in CO started boycotting bars, don't you think the rapists would start going to where the women are? Date rape drugs work when dropped into coffee at Starbucks, just as well as when dropped into booze at the bar.

Are you arguing that the women should only go about when accompanied by a male relative to protect them?

And even that doesn't work, as predators learn how to separate the target from the group. It was killing all the wolves that made hiking in the woods while unarmed a reasonable thing to do.

The problem is the predators, not the life of the prey. If you leave the predators alone to increase in numbers, there's no way to make the life of the prey completely safe.

24 posted on 11/13/2012 9:10:18 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: donna

The problem is not the bar. The problem is the rapist—who may be anywhere you are.

Add this provision to existing law: if the rape kit is not processed within 10 business days, the victim is paid, say $1000 from the lazy government employee’s salary for the purpose of buying a personal firearm for protection.

Government employees aren’t doing their jobs because they lack incentive to do so.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:56 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: formosa

I wonder what percentage of the untasted rape kits contain evidence that would incriminate one or more of said government employees.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 1:16:00 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: momtothree

“The money is probably being diverted from the lab budget to other things.”

Yep. The SWAT team’s budget, new police cars, armored vehicles, drones....

Shiny toys are more important than catching dangerous criminals, don’tcha know.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 1:21:35 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Your rationalization for bigger government can be any thing for any problem.

The choice, however, is simple:

- Raise taxes to pay for rape kits.
or
- Don’t hang out in bars.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 3:22:49 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

Repeating absurdities doesn’t render said absurdities valid.

Are you capable of addressing what I actually wrote?


29 posted on 11/13/2012 10:11:17 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Are you capable of accepting the fact that you are the reason we have big government?
30 posted on 11/14/2012 1:08:15 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

Attempting new versions of absurdities does not render that absurdity valid.

Are you capable of responding to what I actually wrote?


31 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:32 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Oh, stop pretending that I didn’t reply to what you wrote.


32 posted on 11/14/2012 8:52:29 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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