Skip to comments.Queens gas-station owner spills on shortage and line lunacy
Posted on 11/12/2012 8:02:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
A Queens gas-station owner says the fuel shortage could be fixed instantly if panicky drivers calmed down and hoarders, profiteers and scammers were stopped. In the two weeks since Hurricane Sandy, hes been cursed at, spit on and nearly punched in the face by motorists. Fearing reprisals from his supplier, he requested anonymity to relate his experiences from the front lines of the fuel lines to The Posts Kathianne Boniello.
New Yorkers, stop being stupid.
Ive never seen such incredible selfishness in my entire life. This fuel shortage is bringing out the worst in people.
At first, I set a $40 limit for customers. I wanted to accommodate everyone if I could. All Ive gotten for my efforts is two weeks of hell.
Theres been an unbelievable amount of greed, and hoarding, especially with people using gas cans. One person was caught selling a 5-gallon can of gas for $300. I called the police after a family of five kept rotating through the line so they could get around my $40 limit and go make a buck by reselling the fuel themselves.
I started seeing a lot of people bringing Poland Spring bottles and laundry detergent bottles to put gas in. One woman had a watering can. I tried to explain to her that its illegal, and unsafe, to put gas in a container like that. All she said was Why?
Ive spent so many hours here, trying to watch over the property, that Ive lost track of what day it is. One of the first nights, I caught someone with a monkey wrench trying to take apart one of my gas pumps.
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About the shortage, Cuomo and the media now blaming the people and not the distribution and power disruption.
Hopefully we won't have people here believing that BS.
It’s possible I was thinking too boolean. Here is what it said...
“When you sit in your car and idle, and you have the heat going, you actually burn quite a bit of fuel.”
The predicate “and you have the heat going” implies that if you did not have the heat going then it may not burn quite a bit of fuel.
Most likely residual grumpiness from last Tuesday on my part.
“If it was the AC compressor loading the engine then its a different story”
The affects on gas mileage when using AC in a fine tuned automobile is negligable. Maybe 2 miles to the gallon. I know, I watched Mythbusters blow this theory up> :)
It is true though. It is a myth that excessive fuel is used while running the AC. Down here in Tejas, the AC is a necessity in the summer, if you don’t want to sweat your @alls off. I don’t lose mileage like some think one might. I still get 420 miles to a tank, with our without AC
Uhhh . . . Let me think . . . They're Socialist Liberals?
Are you sure cars divert heat from the engine bloc into the cabin? I can get the heat working with the engine turned off and presumed there were electrical coils to heat the air.
I also wondered if it is even risked by automakers to divert engine bloc heat into the cabin due to the inherent safety risks - CO intake, fumes from heated oils and coolants, etc.
>>Emergency response cannot address real emergency needs while coming to the aid of those with “compromised comfort”.
Exactly. Its the logical end to the entitlement society, where “wants” become “needs” and then they start making impossible demands on the system until no wants or needs can be met.
Most all liquid cooled internal combustion engines divert some of the coolant to a heater core radiator which has a fan that blows the heat into the passenger area. There would only be a risk of coolant leaking into the passenger compartment.
Not sure what an all electric car uses. I suspect a resistive heater element with a fan.
Did they test the difference when sitting still? You wouldn’t get a lot of gain from reduced drag from having the windows up if you’re not moving.
I neighbor of mine mentioned he was considering buying a tank like is used for storing fuel oil; illegally burying it in his back yard; and begining to fill it up for his car and generator in an emergency.
Neither for or against this, I am curious if there are evaportion and moisture concerns that a simple “fuel oil” tank (like for a “fuel oil” house heating system) might not take care of, particularly when his plan is for long-term storage only to be used in an emergency.
If there’s a good aspect to hurricanes here in the deep south, it’s surely that as we deal with the ensuing hardship and deprivation, at least we don’t have to do it surrounded by northerners.
One problem he could run into is floating the tank. If the ground water level gets high and the tank is empty the tank will float up out of the ground. I don’t know what they do to stop this but I have seen it happen.
I've never owned a vehicle that could do that. What do you drive?
Lines are way down today where I am on LI. Passed two stations with only about 6 or 7 cars waiting.
That’s not a bad wait. I run into that on a daily basis with people topping off when price is going down. Hoarders aren’t the smartest people around
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