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Do not cave-in to the so-called "dream act"
Nov 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/11/2012 4:49:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The dream act is a socialist democrat dream come true. And a nightmare for liberty minded Americans. The dream act solves no problems. Amnesty solves no problems. The border will not be enforced and instead will be flung wide open.

We do not have jobs for Senator Graham's "eleven million" illegal aliens already here and their offspring nor the other eleven or twelve million he's not counting and their offspring and all their relatives that will be following. We cannot afford the welfare, foodstamps, housing, education, healthcare, EITC, etc, that they demand. And the flood across the borders will be impossible to stop once they are accepted here with open arms.

And they'll vote largely for the democrats. Republicans will never win another election. It's a democrat dream come true.

Hold fast to the rule of law. Damn the RINOs!! Enforce the borders!!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; FReeper Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boehner; borders; dreamact; economy; illegal; immigration; jobs; rino; rinos
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To: RedMDer
PREFECT !©

21 posted on 11/11/2012 5:23:12 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Jim Robinson
I agree. Earlier this week I wrote an article dealing, in part, with the problem. It said,
In April of last year, I wrote an article entitled Governments Rot when their Citizens let them.
Britain’s culture has become no less multiculturally devalued than that of the United States. Venezuela, Cuba, and many others never, at least in recent memory, enjoyed cultures conducive to freedom and democracy. Ditto many countries in Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and Asia, plus some of the countries they colonized. Mexico? Hardly a role model for the United States; I didn’t learn much about Mexican history or culture half a century ago in school, and I doubt that many young people in Mexico learn much today about the history or culture of the United States. Few are likely to develop cultural attitudes in contemporary Mexico compatible with life in the United States.
There are several failed states whose discouraged citizens are coming to the United States — some for freedom, some for jobs, some to mooch and some to make the United States increasingly resemble their countries of origin. However, due to proximity we seem to receive more from Mexico than elsewhere and I very much doubt that the majority of them, generally uneducated, with no skills to sell beyond stoop labor and unable to speak or even to understand English, have significant knowledge of our history or even what the phrases “Constitutional Government” and “Rule of Law, not Rule of Men” mean. Never having lived where such notions are respected and understood, it’s difficult to appreciate them until a long time after transplantation. It’s good that some of them are socially conservative, but more than that is needed: respect for the supremacy of our Constitution and our laws. That seems quite uncommon, particularly among “differently documented” aliens of all stripes. It takes more than a brief and unlawful stay for it to develop. Even a few years of lawful stay under properly enacted amnesty is probably inadequate. While an Hispanic outreach might enlarge Republican rolls, I fear that attracting them would require giving up on much that conservatives hold dear.

Even if otherwise a good idea, and I do not think it is, pandering to Hispanics to get their vote it quite unlikely to get their votes for a conservative party. As observed at Power Line,

If Republicans are losing elections because of the way Hispanics vote, the solution is not to create through legislation a significantly larger Hispanic vote. Suppose the last amnesty hadn’t occurred? Republicans wouldn’t be wringing their hands now about the difficulties of winning elections given the size of the Hispanic vote.

A second amnesty would, before long, end Republican chances of winning elections as a conservative party, and minimize the number of elections Republicans win at all.


22 posted on 11/11/2012 5:27:52 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: gusty
I agree, partially. Longer than 7 years though. How about 25 years? If you're too old to qualify for starting 25 years of military service, out you go.

In a perfect world, they would all be tossed out of the country, period. We owe them nothing.

The problem has been allowed to fester for far, far too long.

23 posted on 11/11/2012 5:28:45 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: onyx

Boehner needs to be put out to pasture. Not suitable for stud service. No gonads.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 5:31:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Terrorists have come across the border. If I could be sure it would happen, I would trade one Dream Act for truely sealed borders.

JimRob I love you but on this one the cause is lost. It was lost years ago when nobody did anything about the problem and millions poured in illegally.

Deporting 12 plus million people is just not going to happen. It is impossible for many reasons.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 5:36:04 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yep. He’s detrimental for our side.

A Tea Party patriot must challenge him for speaker.

Eric Cantor is just as bad. He and his wife are part of the Washington social circuit.


26 posted on 11/11/2012 5:36:25 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's been speculated that 70% of illegals granted immunity would subsequently become Democrats. They are looking to overload the system and create a permanent voting block. Much like Chicago, MA, NJ, and CA.

Just say no - Boehner must go.

27 posted on 11/11/2012 5:38:43 PM PST by GP100
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Just enforce the law. Secure the borders. No amnesty! No special treatment for people who are here illegally!


28 posted on 11/11/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

They do need special treatment of a sort. That “special” treatment criminals get.


29 posted on 11/11/2012 5:54:52 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT!


30 posted on 11/11/2012 5:58:07 PM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jim Robinson

Completely agree.

I have friends telling me well, we’ve just got to play this game if we ever want another Republican president. I’m about ready to go ballistic.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 6:03:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Jim Robinson

carefully calibrated NWO BUSH opportunism at work. They took the post-election panic, paid off Hannity & Pags (AM HOSTS) to start slutting for the Hispanic vote. After Americans took such a blow on fraud election & Islamocommie victory. This family needs to be exiled or in Houston made to LIVE AMONGST all their illegal alien pets in SW Houston instead of Tanglewood.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 6:16:25 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with you, Jim. Once they are granted rights, the dems will dictate to us all. Conservatives have to pull together.. also we have to stop looking for perfection candidates. Everyone makes little mistakes..as long as they don’t lose core convictions, I can forgive. Right now, people are running scared due to the media making it look as though, the republicans are done. Not so. Conservatism in business when implemented works well every time. I would like to see the borders closed and the US to enforce the laws. It’s just a matter of time for a terror attack.


33 posted on 11/11/2012 6:28:15 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with you, Jim. Once they are granted rights, the dems will dictate to us all. Conservatives have to pull together.. also we have to stop looking for perfection candidates. Everyone makes little mistakes..as long as they don’t lose core convictions, I can forgive. Right now, people are running scared due to the media making it look as though, the republicans are done. Not so. Conservatism in business when implemented works well every time. I would like to see the borders closed and the US to enforce the laws.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 6:28:37 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hear ye hear ye!

People do not realize how much DREAM Act Illegal Alien Amnesy will cost them....it will be our tax dollars giving Illegal Aliens free and reduced college tuition and benefits

And we still have people claiming Marco Rubio is a “Conservative”. Marco Rubio is the biggest proponent of DREAM ACT Illegal Alien Amnesty in the Senate...he is no conservative.

Supporting politicians who push Illegal Alien Amnesty only makes it easier for them to push Illegal Alien Amnesty (and DREAM Act)


35 posted on 11/11/2012 6:29:58 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Christie at the beach

Sorry for the double post...


36 posted on 11/11/2012 6:30:10 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The problem is, the voters said on Tuesday they want amnesty... along with abortion on demand, government-paid contraception, high taxes, homo “marriage,” obamaphones, EBT cards, high welfare, and - most of all - Obamacare.

How are we to deny the will of the people? They want socialism.

Elections have consequences. Big ones.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 6:33:40 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I predict the Pubbies will not only support it, but push it.. they are willing to sell their souls and this country to win control..


38 posted on 11/11/2012 6:37:42 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Jim Robinson
Another FReeper posted this today...before Reagan passed amnesty, Hispanics voted Republican almost 40%. After amnesty passed, they began voting Repub 30%.

Boehner and the eRINO's need a history lesson, among other things.

39 posted on 11/11/2012 6:39:30 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: ScottinVA

Well, that’s why FR is here and why sites like this are needed now more than ever.

WE ARE THE RESISTANCE!!

Thanks!


40 posted on 11/11/2012 6:42:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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