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How I think the election was stolen.
Vanity | 11/11/12 | Tommy C

Posted on 11/11/2012 8:59:11 AM PST by TommyC1

I believe that the election was stolen. All the signs pointed to a Romney/Ryan win. The enthusiasm was high in the GOP. The GOTV operation was excellent.

How then, did Obama win? I think they were running a sophisticated game of electronic vote stealing and ballot box stuffing.

What I am about to describe takes a lot of money. To me, one clue is the dog that didn’t bark: Soros. He was quiet during this election. Not a word from his puppets and minions. I vaguely thought this was odd. And now we know why. They had a stealth operation of wide-spread ballot-stuffing.

1. They “salted” the vote in rural areas in swing states like Wisconsin. Many small towns were reporting suspicious registrations. This is an great strategy because there were no flashing lights or big red flags. In addition to stuffing the ballot box in the big cities like Milwaukee and Racine, they planted extra votes around small towns in such a way as to be undetectable. This is why they fought so hard on voter ID. Lax voter ID and early balloting enabled them to register by the carload and vote for Obama in small towns. The precincts still go Republican, but not by as much. The extra margin makes the difference in a 1 point race.

2. The beauty of this strategy is that you can narrow your effort and focus your resources to just those states (and counties) where it matters.

3. I look forward to a study of the “over-vote” for president in Wisconsin and Ohio. The over-vote is the number of ballots that had votes for president but none of the down-ticket candidates. This would be an indication of the salt the small town vote strategy. The “salted” votes would only have presidential votes because the financiers of this operation just want a federal win and don’t care about the rest.

4. In states with electronic voting machines, votes were flipped and stolen. Being wise in the ways of the world tells me that the temptation to build a “back-door” into voting software is overwhelmingly attractive because you can sell that access for a lot of money. Anecdotes of machines showing Obama when Romney was selected were reported. But that probably was only a part of it. The big stealing can go on after the voting is done but before it is counted. I can envision software that takes running vote totals for a candidate and then “flips” just enough votes for the Democrat to win, but not so many as to be suspicious.

5. Executing this strategy is expensive. It has to be planned carefully. Where to stuff and by how much so it isn't detectible has to be worked out. Organizing the carloads to travel from town to town is a logistical task. An operation of this sophistication takes professional expertise to plan and execute and that takes money. Enter Mr. Soros.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012election; soros; stolenelection; vanity; wisconsinvotefraud
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1 posted on 11/11/2012 8:59:17 AM PST by TommyC1
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I have no reason to trust Obama.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 9:03:44 AM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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I agree.

Some precincts in Philly had 99% turnout?

They’re stealing Allen West’s seat right now as we speak.

How did Nate Silver get EVERY ONE of his predictions right?


3 posted on 11/11/2012 9:04:13 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: TommyC1

President used to work for ACORN - a group known for stealing elections.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 9:04:47 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: TommyC1

I wholeheartedly agree. In the inner cities extra ballets are handed out where people vote more than once. Until the Republicans catch and prosecute this crime it will get worse.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 9:06:00 AM PST by doc
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To: TommyC1
Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
Those who COUNT the votes decide everything
-josef Stalin
6 posted on 11/11/2012 9:08:32 AM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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To: TommyC1
Here is my thought, posted yesterday
7 posted on 11/11/2012 9:09:20 AM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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I agree. Trillions of US tax dollars are at stake, as well as trillions worth of favorable treatment for foreign governments. There’s no way a global socialist villain like Soros is going to leave it all up to chance.

Someone knows the inside story on Soros. Our first job is to find out who it is. Shouldn’t be that hard. A good first step is identifying who is seen with Soros in photos of all types — posed, candid, vacation, events, etc. Simple detective work. Too bad Trump made such an ass of himself — until recently he really could have been a factor in exposing stories that need to be exposed. There are other guys like Trump — Steve Wynn comes to mind.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 9:10:14 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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I absolutely agree with you, Tommy - although I voted on election day, when I fed my ballot into to “scanner” or whatever it is that is supposed to tabulate the votes, the screen above it remained blank. The fellow who was “monitoring” my actions at this step of the voting process looked unfamiliar to me (I have voted at the same precinct for 10 years now) and definitely not part of the neighborhood ... a tall skinny guy with facial hair and big wire-rimmed glasses, like a lawyer only not dressed in a suit. Like you, I believe the election results were manipulated to ensure obama’s re-election.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 9:10:14 AM PST by Ken522
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Rebellions start over things less than this.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 9:11:48 AM PST by jetson
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I agree one hundred per cent. This is also why Clinton went to those states. To make it look like he was turning out the vote.

And Romney/Ryan know it, too. Romney had bought a $25,000 fire works display. They said Ryan was in shock. And what pisses me off is all the replublicans know it, too. Apparently the GOPe bigshots didn’t want this win. Because they sure aren’t complaining.

I just wish someone would explain to me why EVERY democrat in the house and senate support all this. They’ve helped install a dictator. They can’t all be that stupid. Are they all evil? Maybe we should write letters to every member of congress with just the sentence “You will stand before Jesus one day.”

It’s interesting how many of us said obama will not leave. We were right. And all the concerns about riots if he lost. He stole the election and there was nothing but acceptance. And that’s all there ever will be unless a leader emerges. That is, until the greatest leader of all appears. I pray for that day.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 9:12:39 AM PST by Terry Mross (No liberal who isn't prepared should be askin' me for help. It won't be pretty.)
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Also, the Obama folks spent very little money on signs and bumper stickers. Here, in my part of Wisconsin, they wee barely visible.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 9:12:39 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Anyone else think this? Next: Let's figure out how to stop this.

Yes. Very good summary. This was an expensive plan, years in the making.

3. I look forward to a study of the “over-vote” for president in Wisconsin and Ohio. The over-vote is the number of ballots that had votes for president but none of the down-ticket candidates. This would be an indication of the salt the small town vote strategy. The “salted” votes would only have presidential votes because the financiers of this operation just want a federal win and don’t care about the rest.

Also see Florida for some of the same pattern.

4. In states with electronic voting machines, votes were flipped and stolen. Being wise in the ways of the world tells me that the temptation to build a “back-door” into voting software is overwhelmingly attractive because you can sell that access for a lot of money. Anecdotes of machines showing Obama when Romney was selected were reported. But that probably was only a part of it. The big stealing can go on after the voting is done but before it is counted. I can envision software that takes running vote totals for a candidate and then “flips” just enough votes for the Democrat to win, but not so many as to be suspicious.

After the 2000 and 2004 elections, there was a huge outcry from the Dems about how paper ballots were easily corrupted, hard to count, and therefore invalid, so "auditable" electronic voting had to be the solution. The problem here is that a software engineer can create fake receipts for votes: if you voted for Bob Smith and the machine changed the vote to John Jones, if you asked for a receipt it could be generated as showing a vote for "Bob Smith" and no one would be the wiser. The machine could have an algorithm that said "if votes for Bob Smith = [1.1] [votes for John Jones] begin [subtract n] [votes from John Jones] or begin [votes for Bob Smith] = [.98] [votes for John Jones] or something like that, and the voter would never know this.

13 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:24 AM PST by thecodont
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Let's assume you're right. Do you think that an organization with the funding and sophistication to pull this off is not going to be able to cover its tracks? Do you think it will just throw up its hands if it's caught? Do you think for an instant that it will cause the election of Barack Obama to be vacated? And how would one go about that? Who would rule in the meantime?

These conspiracy theories are entertaining, and, probably in some degree true. But the fact is, if the election was stolen, it was stolen successfully. And there's nothing we can do to change that.

As to preventing similar thefts in the future, I suspect that we can develop a fool-proof method for validating votes. IF -- and that's a biiiiiiig "if" -- we want to, which I highly doubt some of us do.

14 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:36 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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Ditto on the voter fraud. And if you remember Obama’s demeanor in the last month, I believe even he thought he was going to lose.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:47 AM PST by ryderann
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So — this seems to mean that the actual electorate didn’t change. There was NOT a move toward O by the voters.

Of course, now that O is in, there will be more ‘gimmes’ as time goes by.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:59 AM PST by Exit148
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In my small rural area the women working the polls said they had never seen such a huge turnout before. they were voting FOR ROMENY . of course our county did go to romney, but i can’t believe that it was just our area.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 9:14:17 AM PST by annelizly
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“Executing this strategy is expensive”

I agree with your analysis and I think many of the fraudulent actions you outlined were likely to have occurred.

I think most of this operation was paid for with taxpayer money and union dues extracted forcibly from workers. The cost of the execution of the strategy was born by the people who are already overtaxed.

18 posted on 11/11/2012 9:15:01 AM PST by detective
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>>Anyone else think this? Next: Let’s figure out how to stop this.

Of course this is what happened. Now, stopping and reversing it is the challenge. The courts won’t touch it. The media will debunk it. The GOP will piss themselves and go hide in the closet if you mention it to them. The people still have food, lights, water, NFL, NASCAR, internet porn, and Wal-Mart so armed rebellion isn’t going to happen.

Basically, they beat us in the finest traditions of any Marxist banana republic dictator. As Stalin said, “it doesn’t matter who votes. All that matter is who counts the votes.” Leftists count the votes. Leftists control the polling places. Leftists decide what constitutes “fair”.

When the Right reads Marx and Alinsky and learns to fight dirty, we can win. As long as we insist on being “nice”, we will continue to LOSE.


19 posted on 11/11/2012 9:15:29 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Yes. Now, Read this article: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/24/science/la-sci-sn-statistical-model-suggests-fraud-in-russian-election-20120924

This explains the techniques to detect fraudulent elections. The key test is

The new model, created by a team of Austrian scientists, takes a much more rigorous statistical approach, but it relies on a relatively simple idea: If an election has areas that have extremely high voter turnout -- close to 100% -- where that turnout is mostly for one candidate, the fix is likely in.

Well, we have areas with turnout above 100%! -- this beats anything done in Russia or Uganda by a mile.

Now, here is an important test one should do before jumping to conclusions: we know of strange results from OH, PA, WI, and FL. Any suspicious precincts in NY or CA? (if none can be found, the best explanation is that the Democrats did not bother with the fix in the states they were going to win anyway).

20 posted on 11/11/2012 9:15:57 AM PST by mvonfr
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