Posted on 11/11/2012 8:59:11 AM PST by TommyC1
I believe that the election was stolen. All the signs pointed to a Romney/Ryan win. The enthusiasm was high in the GOP. The GOTV operation was excellent.
How then, did Obama win? I think they were running a sophisticated game of electronic vote stealing and ballot box stuffing.
What I am about to describe takes a lot of money. To me, one clue is the dog that didn’t bark: Soros. He was quiet during this election. Not a word from his puppets and minions. I vaguely thought this was odd. And now we know why. They had a stealth operation of wide-spread ballot-stuffing.
1. They “salted” the vote in rural areas in swing states like Wisconsin. Many small towns were reporting suspicious registrations. This is an great strategy because there were no flashing lights or big red flags. In addition to stuffing the ballot box in the big cities like Milwaukee and Racine, they planted extra votes around small towns in such a way as to be undetectable. This is why they fought so hard on voter ID. Lax voter ID and early balloting enabled them to register by the carload and vote for Obama in small towns. The precincts still go Republican, but not by as much. The extra margin makes the difference in a 1 point race.
2. The beauty of this strategy is that you can narrow your effort and focus your resources to just those states (and counties) where it matters.
3. I look forward to a study of the “over-vote” for president in Wisconsin and Ohio. The over-vote is the number of ballots that had votes for president but none of the down-ticket candidates. This would be an indication of the salt the small town vote strategy. The “salted” votes would only have presidential votes because the financiers of this operation just want a federal win and don’t care about the rest.
4. In states with electronic voting machines, votes were flipped and stolen. Being wise in the ways of the world tells me that the temptation to build a “back-door” into voting software is overwhelmingly attractive because you can sell that access for a lot of money. Anecdotes of machines showing Obama when Romney was selected were reported. But that probably was only a part of it. The big stealing can go on after the voting is done but before it is counted. I can envision software that takes running vote totals for a candidate and then “flips” just enough votes for the Democrat to win, but not so many as to be suspicious.
5. Executing this strategy is expensive. It has to be planned carefully. Where to stuff and by how much so it isn't detectible has to be worked out. Organizing the carloads to travel from town to town is a logistical task. An operation of this sophistication takes professional expertise to plan and execute and that takes money. Enter Mr. Soros.
I have no reason to trust Obama.
I agree.
Some precincts in Philly had 99% turnout?
They’re stealing Allen West’s seat right now as we speak.
How did Nate Silver get EVERY ONE of his predictions right?
President used to work for ACORN - a group known for stealing elections.
I wholeheartedly agree. In the inner cities extra ballets are handed out where people vote more than once. Until the Republicans catch and prosecute this crime it will get worse.
I agree. Trillions of US tax dollars are at stake, as well as trillions worth of favorable treatment for foreign governments. There’s no way a global socialist villain like Soros is going to leave it all up to chance.
Someone knows the inside story on Soros. Our first job is to find out who it is. Shouldn’t be that hard. A good first step is identifying who is seen with Soros in photos of all types — posed, candid, vacation, events, etc. Simple detective work. Too bad Trump made such an ass of himself — until recently he really could have been a factor in exposing stories that need to be exposed. There are other guys like Trump — Steve Wynn comes to mind.
I absolutely agree with you, Tommy - although I voted on election day, when I fed my ballot into to “scanner” or whatever it is that is supposed to tabulate the votes, the screen above it remained blank. The fellow who was “monitoring” my actions at this step of the voting process looked unfamiliar to me (I have voted at the same precinct for 10 years now) and definitely not part of the neighborhood ... a tall skinny guy with facial hair and big wire-rimmed glasses, like a lawyer only not dressed in a suit. Like you, I believe the election results were manipulated to ensure obama’s re-election.
Rebellions start over things less than this.
I agree one hundred per cent. This is also why Clinton went to those states. To make it look like he was turning out the vote.
And Romney/Ryan know it, too. Romney had bought a $25,000 fire works display. They said Ryan was in shock. And what pisses me off is all the replublicans know it, too. Apparently the GOPe bigshots didn’t want this win. Because they sure aren’t complaining.
I just wish someone would explain to me why EVERY democrat in the house and senate support all this. They’ve helped install a dictator. They can’t all be that stupid. Are they all evil? Maybe we should write letters to every member of congress with just the sentence “You will stand before Jesus one day.”
It’s interesting how many of us said obama will not leave. We were right. And all the concerns about riots if he lost. He stole the election and there was nothing but acceptance. And that’s all there ever will be unless a leader emerges. That is, until the greatest leader of all appears. I pray for that day.
Also, the Obama folks spent very little money on signs and bumper stickers. Here, in my part of Wisconsin, they wee barely visible.
Yes. Very good summary. This was an expensive plan, years in the making.
3. I look forward to a study of the “over-vote” for president in Wisconsin and Ohio. The over-vote is the number of ballots that had votes for president but none of the down-ticket candidates. This would be an indication of the salt the small town vote strategy. The “salted” votes would only have presidential votes because the financiers of this operation just want a federal win and don’t care about the rest.
Also see Florida for some of the same pattern.
4. In states with electronic voting machines, votes were flipped and stolen. Being wise in the ways of the world tells me that the temptation to build a “back-door” into voting software is overwhelmingly attractive because you can sell that access for a lot of money. Anecdotes of machines showing Obama when Romney was selected were reported. But that probably was only a part of it. The big stealing can go on after the voting is done but before it is counted. I can envision software that takes running vote totals for a candidate and then “flips” just enough votes for the Democrat to win, but not so many as to be suspicious.
After the 2000 and 2004 elections, there was a huge outcry from the Dems about how paper ballots were easily corrupted, hard to count, and therefore invalid, so "auditable" electronic voting had to be the solution. The problem here is that a software engineer can create fake receipts for votes: if you voted for Bob Smith and the machine changed the vote to John Jones, if you asked for a receipt it could be generated as showing a vote for "Bob Smith" and no one would be the wiser. The machine could have an algorithm that said "if votes for Bob Smith = [1.1] [votes for John Jones] begin [subtract n] [votes from John Jones] or begin [votes for Bob Smith] = [.98] [votes for John Jones] or something like that, and the voter would never know this.
These conspiracy theories are entertaining, and, probably in some degree true. But the fact is, if the election was stolen, it was stolen successfully. And there's nothing we can do to change that.
As to preventing similar thefts in the future, I suspect that we can develop a fool-proof method for validating votes. IF -- and that's a biiiiiiig "if" -- we want to, which I highly doubt some of us do.
Ditto on the voter fraud. And if you remember Obama’s demeanor in the last month, I believe even he thought he was going to lose.
So — this seems to mean that the actual electorate didn’t change. There was NOT a move toward O by the voters.
Of course, now that O is in, there will be more ‘gimmes’ as time goes by.
In my small rural area the women working the polls said they had never seen such a huge turnout before. they were voting FOR ROMENY . of course our county did go to romney, but i can’t believe that it was just our area.
I agree with your analysis and I think many of the fraudulent actions you outlined were likely to have occurred.
I think most of this operation was paid for with taxpayer money and union dues extracted forcibly from workers. The cost of the execution of the strategy was born by the people who are already overtaxed.
>>Anyone else think this? Next: Let’s figure out how to stop this.
Of course this is what happened. Now, stopping and reversing it is the challenge. The courts won’t touch it. The media will debunk it. The GOP will piss themselves and go hide in the closet if you mention it to them. The people still have food, lights, water, NFL, NASCAR, internet porn, and Wal-Mart so armed rebellion isn’t going to happen.
Basically, they beat us in the finest traditions of any Marxist banana republic dictator. As Stalin said, “it doesn’t matter who votes. All that matter is who counts the votes.” Leftists count the votes. Leftists control the polling places. Leftists decide what constitutes “fair”.
When the Right reads Marx and Alinsky and learns to fight dirty, we can win. As long as we insist on being “nice”, we will continue to LOSE.
This explains the techniques to detect fraudulent elections. The key test is
The new model, created by a team of Austrian scientists, takes a much more rigorous statistical approach, but it relies on a relatively simple idea: If an election has areas that have extremely high voter turnout -- close to 100% -- where that turnout is mostly for one candidate, the fix is likely in.
Well, we have areas with turnout above 100%! -- this beats anything done in Russia or Uganda by a mile.
Now, here is an important test one should do before jumping to conclusions: we know of strange results from OH, PA, WI, and FL. Any suspicious precincts in NY or CA? (if none can be found, the best explanation is that the Democrats did not bother with the fix in the states they were going to win anyway).
oh yeah...and we have to show our driverse license.
I can’t help but blame W for this. He had the white house, the senate and the house. He could have cleaned up elections forever. But he said “Let’s move forward.” Where have I heard that recently? I also remember Tom Delay all giddy over their complete control and he as told to tone it down. Something smells.
I saw the same kind of fellow at my polling place also. He watched as I fed my ballot into the scanner (I did hear it beep as each card went in but didn’t check the visual display). I’d never seen this guy before. Well-groomed, aware and poised, like a lawyer wearing his Friday casual duds.
This is a story for Breitbart, but I hope it isn't too late.
And in Florida some precincts had 113% turnout!!!
Your opinion makes much more sense than the tin-foil hatters of this thread.
What I find interesting, and found interesting before the election, is that if you go to any news website (with the exception of a few) you will find in the comments section people supporting Romney number higher than the Obama supporters.
Why is this? Do liberals avoid the web? I highly doubt that. Are they shy to make their views known? Yeah right, with their fat mouths? I don’t think so. The fact is there were and still are more Romney supporters yet Obama wins? No no, BS I say. Something fishy is going on here.
I live in New York city and out of about 20 people I know about 5 are hardcore libs. Also a lot of libs I have run across over the summer and made small talk with said they were fed up with Obama (and I never mentioned my political standing). Yet Obama still wins? This is bullcrap. The guy was and is a massive F up, people are fed up, the country is a mess and still he wins?
I mentioned it yesterday, but will say it again. If the right played by the same rules as the left, Sarah Palin would be on the steps of the Capitol building in DC as I type this, in the cold with a bullhorn, surrounded by an ocean of party faithful, demanding a recount of ALL votes, and a full investigation by an independent authority over allegations of voter fraud. And they wouldn’t disperse until the national guard started shooting.
It WAS stolen. So what? No one is doing anything about it. It is a sad day for America and Freedom.
Forget the damn vote, there isn’t the manhood in government to do anything about it nor do the media care. After a generations-long assult on America she fell in November 2012. It will be war within two years. If there is no Manhood among We The People then America is dead. Very simple.
A little here, a little there...
The first part of the solution is for the Repubs to grow a set.
I would bet good money that at least 5 to 10 percent of the democratic vote totals are illegal votes. Of course there is no way to ever conclusively prove this, and I have no idea what, if anything, can be done about it.
I agree with you. We had no chance against massive fraud and corruption. In this respect, we may as well as be living in Cuba or Venezuela.
If Romney “knew it”, he would be filing lawsuits right now. obama won, perhaps not completely fair, but he won.
We can all agree that some people voted twice and are stupid enough to admit it.
OK, how many people voted 3x,4x,5x... 100x?
We need a revote.
“It WAS stolen. So what? No one is doing anything about it. It is a sad day for America and Freedom.”
I was scrolling down to say the same thing and saw you had already posted it.
The country suffers from an overwhelming number of voters with the attitudes of children who want to be taken care of and a dearth of adults.
The Republic is finished and we need to admit that. As the DC cop said the the demonstrator almost 4 years ago, “This aint America no more.”
Before the election, I remember hearing that the only way Obama could win would be to steal it. I know that voter fraud is widespread. In the past election, I read that Obama stole the Texas primary votes from Hillary, and nothing was done. For years people have made jokes about the dead voting, ha, ha, ha, but now I realize it’s not funny at all. In small ways, like the people who boast on twitter that they voted five times for Obama to much more sophisticated ways like manipulating voting machines, the Democrats have been stealing votes for a long time. Many have just laughed it off and bascially said it’s just the Dems being the Dems.
Especially in the last two elections, Republicans don’t want to contest anything because Obama would pull the race card. The effectiveness of this policy is weakening, but there is still much fear of being branded a racist. In big and small ways the Democrats have been stealing votes for a long time, and the practice is accelerating.
This time and last time, Obama got at or close to 100% of the registered voters in Philadelphia and similar cities. This is obviously and painfully fraudulent. No place ever gets that kind of turnout.
There are many questions about this last election, and they need to be anwered.
The sooner we acknowledge that the GOP ran a liberal RINO candidate (again) and quits making excuses, the sooner things can be fixed.
Speaking of small towns:
VAN loads of these people were followed from the polling place to drop off points in the same geographical area, by THREE different individuals, including Republican Legal representative, and TWO Official Project ORCA representatives/ poll observers . This area was in the 12th and 13 St. area between the 1300-1600 blocks. Many of the Van occupants were then seen entering two addresses there, according to first hand reports.
The ballot counting machine for wards 9 and 10 STOPPED WORKING, and had to be replaced 4 times throughout the day, requiring replacement each time. the first breakdown occurred at 9:00 a.m..
Wards 9 & 10 are comprised of a voter count of approximately 1,500 combined, and the highest voter turnout in past elections, according to long time poll workers there, has been in the 600 to 650 range. Yesterdays voter count was over 1160.
Never before in Sheboygan County history, have ballot counting machines malfunctioned 4 times in the same election, let alone done so in the same polling place!!
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He remained at the polling place from 7:00 a.m. until well after 8:p.m. .....A high priced CHICAGO attorney, sitting in a Sheboygan WISCONSIN polling place, observing wards comprised of 1500 voters? .... WHY???
http://www.facebook.com/SheboyganGop.passionate.pachyderms
Scott Walker in Wisconsin, John Kasich in Ohio, Rick Scott in Florida, Terry Branstaad of Iowa, and Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania all have one thing in common...
They are all REPUBLICAN Governors of their states. They also serve as commanders-in-chief of their states, and the head law enforcement officer.
SURELY they can order the state police and other state investigators to conduct a quiet but no stone left unturned invesitigation into all of this?
Surely they’re not part of the fraud? If not, why aren’t they?
And I know, don’t call you Shirley! ;-)
Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...
Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.
A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.
The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.
Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.
We had a professional odds-maker Paddy Power pay out the night before the election ? Wonder how many of the biggest payouts on intrade went to those who helped fix this election ?
As far as I’m concerned, until I see otherwise, 11% of the OH vote vanished. They started election night with the absentee/early vote and it was only 20% of 2008 numbers and had a 60:40 split Obama. The actual # should have been 31% of 2008 and roughly a 50:39:14 breakdown. Was the other 11% added back in later to one of only two states (PA was the other) in the area that showed less votes for Romney than McCain ? Who knows ? My absentee in PA disappeared and I’ve since heard from others that noted the same thing. I found out b/c I went to the polls, there is no easy way to look it up. One individual said the official she spoke to told her their were massive problems with absentee ballots.
Yep. Problem is we have jobs.
They offed Breitbart because he was too unpredictable. The guys that remain are controlled opposition. Have we ever seen Breitbart’s videos?
Except for complaining nothing will be done .
And since the government controls the IRS there will never be an audit of the union pay offs.
EVERY democrat in the house and senate support all this. They’ve helped install a dictator. They can’t all be that stupid. Are they all evil?
— They are all vetted before the D party invests a dime in them. They either have to prove they are totally corrupt, have something blackmail worthy, or both. I wonder how long they had info on Petraeus before he decided he’d just tell the world himself.
I agree. But I suspect the new voting machine computers. very easy to hack. while the paper ballot can be counted by hand, I have not heard any confirmation of an audit of a machine’s tabulation. In other words, if 1000 voters voted in a one hour and those ballots were boxed away, did anyone go back and check the machine says 600 Obama 400 Romney, were there the same number of paper ballots in the box for that hour or whatever time period is used.
I am just saying that books can be cooked, computer programs altered, any number of crooked schemes, did anyone confirm the count against the paper ballots. If O had lost, you know they would be screaming fixed, cheating whatever transference projection they could get away with.
I said before it was Chicago machine politics nationwide. Old man Richard Daley (how many votes does JFK need?) is smiling up from h*ll.
Yes, with the passage of the 16TH Amendment (Income Tax) the government has become a criminal enterprise. Few honest men seek office, none survive the seduction of wealth and power (ref. Lord Acton)
As even the UN observers noted, our voting system is based on the honor system, which I think leaves it open to massive fraud: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956989/posts
But I also think there is something not quite right with our own GOP. When we were in control, why didn’t we fix a lot of the problems when we could have? And why did we spend like the Democrats?
I also don’t understand why they don’t fight to win as passionately as the Democrats do. Why don’t they contest the votes in those areas where fraud has been reported instead of leaving it up to individual patriots like Allen West? Gore and his party had every darn hanging chad examined. Sometimes I wonder if there is a group behind the curtain who actually runs the show, and we no longer have a real say in how we will be governed.
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