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The ‘nones’ say 2012 election proves they are a political force
RNS ^ | November 8, 2012 | Kimberly Winston

Posted on 11/10/2012 12:31:09 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/10/2012 12:31:15 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Pope Benedict XVI raises his voice against the "dominant culture of secularism in America" and, between the lines, he attacks Obama's policy in favor of contraception, gay marriage and abortion, preventing a true freedom of conscience to American Catholics.

Pope Benedict Warns of "Secularism", Words Clearly Relevant to American Politics

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 11/10/2012 12:33:09 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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Atheists and agnostics voted 70% Zero, 26% Romney. That 44% margin x 12% of the electorate = 5.3% of the popular vote. More than enough to swing the election to Zero.

All that will happen next is their fault.

3 posted on 11/10/2012 12:38:21 PM PST by stillonaroll
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These n_nz think they are too...

4 posted on 11/10/2012 12:47:16 PM PST by mikrofon (Catholic BUMP)
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Secular Coalition for America

The League of Militant Atheists AKA
Union of Belligerent Atheists
Society of the Godless
Union of the Godless

was an atheistic and antireligious organization of workers and intelligentsia that developed in Soviet Russia under the influence of the ideological and cultural views and policies of the Communist Party in 1925–1947.

5 posted on 11/10/2012 12:48:34 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: NYer

So does this mean the GOP must pander to them too?


6 posted on 11/10/2012 12:49:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NYer

Looks like a great opportunity for evangelization to me!

;-))))))))))))))))))))))


7 posted on 11/10/2012 12:55:01 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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So many groups to pander to, so little time. This is absurd.


8 posted on 11/10/2012 12:56:50 PM PST by sockhead (Socialism: trickle up poverty.)
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To: mikrofon

Such sick radical egalitarians! She should know that nuns who worship Marx can never believe in God—much less Jesus Christ.

Her warped “thinking” dehumanizes men and women-—to where there is no difference —which is the Big Lie of Marx-—along with his hammer to force men into women into men-—and to destroy any image of a Designer of Human Nature.

She is SO STUPID!!!!! and SO post-Vatican II. We need to return to the true Catholic Faith.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 1:00:58 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Lol. And then there is this group ...

... led by Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of the Roman Catholic Social Justice Organization NETWORK. She delivered a speech at the 2012 DNC.

These are amongst the most anti-catholic Catholics in the US. We pray for their conversion of heart.

10 posted on 11/10/2012 1:01:03 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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“He said, ‘We don’t do outreach to that community.’”

I seem to recall that God got booed three times at the Rat convention. That was apparently obvious enough to the atheists who was on their side.

11 posted on 11/10/2012 1:01:37 PM PST by randita
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PROOF ,,,, A HABIT IS A HARD THING TO KICK !!!!!


12 posted on 11/10/2012 1:03:24 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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Well we can’t just let the post op, transsexual, lesbian, cross dressing, Vegan, Buddhist, Eskimo, little people vote go to Obama.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 1:14:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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So does this mean the GOP must pander to them too?

A lot of these are your Ron Paul Liberty Movement voters.

Yes, you need to pander to them, but know what appeals to them. Paul can appeal to them. Evangelicals can't.

Most of these people are pretty militant; they won't accept an overly religious approach, but they will listen to the sweet siren call of Liberty and First Amendment because it allows them to be as they are.

Remember how Obama did it: Microtargeting a specific message to specific groups and fluff for mass consumption.

14 posted on 11/10/2012 1:23:55 PM PST by superloser
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I don’t really care who they are or what they want. The GOP will never win the pander game because the democrats will always offer more to appeal to whatever selfish desire any particular group wants.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 1:28:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The GOP will never win the pander game because the democrats will always offer more to appeal to whatever selfish desire any particular group wants.

Bingo! It turns into a competition which the democrats will ALWAYS WIN because they are backed by the mainstream media. Rush Limbaugh devoted two days to that argument, this week.

RUSH: Mitt Romney is everything about this country Obama despises. Everything. He's too normal. He's too rich. He violates the Obama way to get things done, sort of like Clarence Thomas is despised by the Reverend Jackson and Al Sharpton. You know why? Because Clarence Thomas has become the most powerful in his position, he is the most eminently qualified for what he does, and he got there without going through the traditional prescriptions said to be necessary for African-Americans by the civil rights coalition.

Mitt Romney, Republican Minorities, are Hated By the Left

16 posted on 11/10/2012 1:43:07 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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You're missing the point.

The "nones" care about their right to not practice a religion and not have a religion legislated on top of them.

That's pretty much all they care about.

Now think about how I know this. I'll give you a hint: Born and raised Catholic, haven't been to a service in 20 years. Not likely ever to go back and not interested in being persuaded to try anything else.

Allahpundit as well is a "none". There are lots of us out there who would like to remain part of the fold. Most of them who are part of the fold, like me, understand certain realities and that there are things that can happen and things that cannot happen.

This needs to be explained to the "nones" groups by internal party operators.

17 posted on 11/10/2012 1:47:33 PM PST by superloser
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Just yesterday the de-facto DREAM act illegals protested in Michigan because the secretary of state (Ruth Johnson) won’t give them driver’s licenses.

Johnson dumped it right back in Obama’s lap and told them that Obama had created the legal/non legal limbo they’re in and that they should take it up with him because its not her problem.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The GOP will never win the pander game because the democrats will always offer more to appeal to whatever selfish desire any particular group wants.

This game can be won in ten minutes.

Here is how you do it.

These guys care about two things - not being insulted and not having someone's religion crammed down their throat.

Seriously, that's about all they care about.

To win them, you take a part of the Standard Party Line and give it to them. This is what you tell them:

"We will defend to the death the First Amendment and your right to practice the religion of your choice or none at all."

Then you simply mention "those with no faith" in politicians' speeches. Just mention them. They'll flip out and be all smiles. Bush did exactly that. They completely freaked out and thought it was fantastic.

The only other thing you tell them is this:

"We are the party of smaller government. I'm sure you recognize, as do we, that as Government gets larger, the more things it regulates, and the more it reduces your freedoms and the ability to keep things at bay. We want to make sure you retain your rights, but the only way to do that is to shrink the size of the Government. Ask the Japanese during WWII how well 'Big Government' served them."

Quote to them that "A government large enough to give you everything you want is also large enough to take everything away from you" and add to that, "That includes throwing you in camps and forcing you into a church".

This one is a slam-dunk. It is amazing nobody can figure this one out.

19 posted on 11/10/2012 1:56:44 PM PST by superloser
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Just for kicks.

Exactly who is it that’s cramming religion down their throats?


20 posted on 11/10/2012 2:07:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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