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Who Authorized FBI Surveillance of Gen. Petraeus?
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Posted on 11/10/2012 10:51:39 AM PST by Perdogg

Even by the standards of the friday afternoon news dump tradition, yesterday's news that Gen. David Petraeus had resigned from the CIA was a stunner. The most heralded military officer of his generation fell from grace after it was revealed he'd had an affair with his biographer. The affair was discovered earlier this year soon after the FBI began monitoring his email. This raises a very serious question. Who authorized the FBI to monitor the e-mail of the Director of the CIA?

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1 posted on 11/10/2012 10:51:42 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Probably on application by the fbi to the secret intelligence court.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 10:54:12 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Perdogg

My guess is the same people (or their liberalistic clones) that authorized the hounding and seige of Randy Weaver, the murdered people at Waco, TX, and a hundred other unknown politically-based persecutions about which this country has come to know the truth.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 10:55:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Perdogg

Probably the generally-recognized principle that any use of computer equipment at work can be monitored by the employer.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 10:56:27 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Perdogg

everyone with Top Secret clearance is always monitored. He knew it.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 10:57:39 AM PST by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: Perdogg

Maybe just Holder’s agents with badges.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 10:57:51 AM PST by marron
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To: Perdogg
If you have a security clearance you know you're being monitored. Especially at his level.
7 posted on 11/10/2012 10:58:17 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Perdogg

If Petraeus was using his offical email, or even his private email on a government computer, it was all subject to monitoring without any warrant.


8 posted on 11/10/2012 10:58:17 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Perdogg

Remember when General Eisenhower was shamed into resigning as commander of the Allied Forces in Europe because of his travelling mistress? Neither do I.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 10:58:49 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Perdogg

What’s the problem here? I remember the last half of the 1990s! A blow job, an extra-marital affair is not an impeachable offense!..... A public figure? Moral turpitude? The hell you say? Shit....Marilyn Chambers (a porn start) was a mother on some well-known baby product commercials....there ain’t no story here!

This is all subterfuge by the administration to cover up the fact that DP knows what really went on in Benghazi, and they’re poisoning the well.


10 posted on 11/10/2012 10:58:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Perdogg

One article said the NSA found the original email during routine scans of government employees. It was the NSA who went to FBI. I have not seen that confirmed, just putting it in the record as a possibility.


11 posted on 11/10/2012 10:59:09 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Perdogg

I have a feeling it began with the Secret Service embarrassment a few months back and has grown legs from there. That investigation has brought out a number of those charged and in turn, they’ve dropped a dime on others. A Secret Service agent committed suicide about a week ago. I think a broader net has been cast ... and its catching others...JM $.02


12 posted on 11/10/2012 11:00:56 AM PST by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: freedumb2003

That is what does not make sense. “Thousands “ of emails? He cannot be that stupid.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 11:01:12 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

There might have been a Florida couple with a Radio Shack wireless network card that inadvertently received his e mail.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 11:04:00 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sure they are. Aldritch Ames, Hansen, Manning, et al are proof of that. Good thing these guys were rolled up before they could do any damage.

Valerie Jarret I’m sure has terabytes of sigint proving she as pure as the Sibeian snows.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 11:04:42 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: SueRae

If only those investigative energies were so enthusiastic and fruitful on crimes such as Benghazi and Fast and Furious... Or on Valerie Jarretts’ background...honestly, that woman Jaing Qing, of Gang of Four infamy.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 11:05:09 AM PST by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: freedumb2003

‘zackly.
FBI monitors government emails.
When someone else besides the user signs on, it’s worth a closer look.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 11:06:20 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Perdogg

The internet is not secure. Free email is not secure. There are multiple angles that foreign intelligence services use to access and steal unclassified emails from our national security architecture and military personnel. Especially when those emails originate or terminate in Afghanistan.

Any number of foreign intelligence services could have used this information as a bargaining chip with Obama loyalists within the U.S. government. Petraeus has long been a potential political rival of Obama. When McChrystal stepped down and was replaced by Petraeus, Obama was widely praised by the left for having cleverly shipped a potential rival out of the picture. Obama later kept his friends close and enemies closer by putting Petraeus in charge of the CIA. Romney apparently still wanted him as his VP, a point Obama leaked himself at a fundraiser.

Foreign intelligence services trade in this sort of information like currency. Handing a government a knife it can use to take out a political rival silently is a gift that doesn’t go unrewarded.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 11:07:54 AM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Perdogg

Is there anything that says that Patraeus was being investigated, versus the mistress?

Maybe they were investigating her and got him in the process...


19 posted on 11/10/2012 11:11:27 AM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Perdogg

This has the fingerprints of White House operatives all over it. Petreus was going to testify before Congress and blow holes in Obama’s cover story even to point that those in the Situation Room of the WH watched the attack in real time and did nothing. Obama’s Chicago thugs with the cooperation of AG Holder got the FBI to dig for dirt on Petreus and just before Petreus was going to testify dumped the dirt into the willing hands of the MSM. Anyone remember how Obama got elected to his Senate seat in Illinois? .... tawdry details from a sealed divorce file were released. Remember how Obama got elected to the Illinois legislature? .. a smear campaign took out his opponent. See a pattern here?


20 posted on 11/10/2012 11:13:43 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Perdogg

I still thinking they were using this as blackmail. Democrats can’t have honest people in power unless they have something to hold against them.

He probably had enough and said to hell with it, I’ll out myself.


21 posted on 11/10/2012 11:16:19 AM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Perdogg
George Soros / U.N. / NWO

Part of the overall plan to discredit the 'old guard' and foment distrust by Americans in everything American.

22 posted on 11/10/2012 11:17:22 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: freedumb2003

Not only that, but it has been the practice to read and censor all mail originating in a war zone to prevent servicemen from writing something that might be used to gain knowledge harmful to the military.

Email from a general would certainly be examined.

Once an investigation began while he was in Afghanistan, it would continue until resolved one way or another.


23 posted on 11/10/2012 11:18:16 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Bigjimslade

The NY Times that’s who! Bought and paid for!


24 posted on 11/10/2012 11:19:15 AM PST by Conserev1
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To: Perdogg
Patraeus is out because of The Google Purge
25 posted on 11/10/2012 11:19:44 AM PST by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

I would bet on that.

This began while he was in Afghanistan so it did not begin as a plot to get him.

It may well have become that at a later date.

She was trying to hack his email.

Big question: Why and for who?

At that point in time, not a plot by obumbler to get him.

So who?

Was she a foreign agent?

Very unlikely that she was working on her own.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 11:23:05 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
One article said the NSA found the original email during routine scans of government employees. It was the NSA who went to FBI. I have not seen that confirmed, just putting it in the record as a possibility.

NSA grabs everything, almost all of it innocuous garbage intel wise. The computer scanning would have flagged DCIA's communications based on key words, phrases, recipient, and other factors before being brought to the attention of human eyes.

"Say babe, how about we knock some boots tonite". Doesn't strike me as a red security flag with a Drudge Siren.

Real question is was Petraeus under constant surveillance, routine. Scheduled scan, event driven (Benghazi), command driven (O wants to gauge loyalty of flag officers pre-election)

I suspect that the real time monitoring of the Benghazi assault and the stand down orders caused a flurry of encrypted msgs among general staff with an angry WTF tone) The knock down of Petraeus was a message to every flag officer, "Four stars don't mean shit, we own your ass! STFU!"

27 posted on 11/10/2012 11:25:09 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: The Great RJ

Can you imagine the raw data available to the Chicago mafia for any future powerful senator, congressman, agency head, or would-be republican challenger? Raw DAta comes from field agents to Holders desk to Obamas desk to Axlerod. It makes Hillarys’ FBI files look like Dear ABby remarks. Obama/Axlerod has the speculative dirt on every person in the government....including the supremes. Obama is not a Boy Scout. He takes no prisoners.


28 posted on 11/10/2012 11:27:49 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: Perdogg
Could it be: Petraeus was given the CIA position, (as in keep the enemy close). Draw him in, then turn the screws on him?

Setting this gal up, via BIO on the Gen., to compromise him, which scared him into lying.

Once he was compromised, they can begin their investigations, and using their findings to Blackmail him. He would then simply be trying to protect his wife, as at that time Benghazi had not happened. There would be no need for him to think anything other than protecting his wife.

Once they had this SET UP, BENGHAZI happened and they knew Petraeus was hooked and no where to turn. Mission Accomplished.

If any of this is reasonable, then BENGHAZI was in the planning for a long time. Just had to get the Chess pieces in the right place, checkmate Petraeus.

29 posted on 11/10/2012 11:29:33 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
Mission ONE: Seduce the general to discredit him.

Mission TWO: Write a book

She was working for someone who wanted to sabotage Petraeus. Her 'biographer' title was only cover for the mission. Mission accomplished. The bigger story is 'Who hired her to get petraeus?' It came from the top. Bet on that. Possibly 0bama or Jarrett by order of Soros/U.N./NWO. Overthrowing America requires the shaming of everything we hold in high regard. Look at what Team 0bama has done to the reputation of our SEALs; 0bama robbed them of credit for the OBL mission. Abandoned them to DIE in Benghazi. Now punishing them for divulging classified information to a gaming company. THAT was probably a seduction or enticement too.. Team 0bama is BUSY!!

This is so obvious it STINKS, folks. Too bad most Americans are too stupid to realize what's going on here.

30 posted on 11/10/2012 11:30:50 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Steel Wolf

Romney apparently still wanted him as his VP, a point Obama leaked himself at a fundraiser.

If that is true it gives me hope that he is going to do the right thing and come clean about Benghazi and he did it after the election because he thought Romney was going to win and he wouldn’t have to rat out Obama to be rid of him. Not sure I agree with that approach, but I hope it works.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 11:31:06 AM PST by Josephat
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

That makes sense. CIA uses (or at least should, you never can tell these days) highly encrypted email for “all everything”.

The US government regularly uses Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), which is good enough for most traffic, but there is no way the CIA would be satisfied with just that.

Kicking it up enough notches so that the rest of the civilized world can’t break it takes serious effort, however, to the point where only a few, particularly the NSA, would be able to crack it.

But that’s their job. And National Security anything, no matter whose toes are stepped on, is authorized for them. And from there, it’s a pipeline to the FBI, the only agency with enough clout to follow it up.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 11:32:51 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: annieokie

We’re on the same page, as they say! Right on. But I did not consider that ‘Benghazi’ was part of a plan to impune Petraeus. Now we get to see an American icon get trashed. My prior post elaborates on this. I hope the SEALs take America back.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 11:34:25 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Perdogg
all I know they are going to make so much money off book sales
34 posted on 11/10/2012 11:34:25 AM PST by drumr337 (I voted 4 Palin)
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To: Perdogg

So, somebody sees his e-mails last Spring where him and Mata Whorie are discussing their times in Afghanistan. He’s the head of the CIA. Who here thinks that the President wasn’t immediately notified?

“Man! Frank! Look at his e-mails! The head of the CIA was fooling around in Afghanistan! What should we do?”

“Well, Bob, as tried and trusted agents of The Federal Bureau of Investigation, I think we should keep our mouths shut until after the Presidential election.”

Nope. Never happen that way.


35 posted on 11/10/2012 11:35:06 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SpaceBar
CIA director in DC and Lieutenant General in Afghanistan are different kinds of positions. It would be easier to watch him in DC. I can't get 7 days in May out of my mind considering all the goings on of late.
36 posted on 11/10/2012 11:41:17 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: DuncanWaring
Probably the generally-recognized principle that any use of computer equipment at work can be monitored by the employer.

Actually, while that i true for private employers, it isn't for government employees. Those normally require some type of curt related document.

37 posted on 11/10/2012 11:44:00 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Can you imagine the raw data available to the Chicago mafia for any future powerful senator, congressman, agency head, or would-be republican challenger?

ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

38 posted on 11/10/2012 11:45:20 AM PST by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Perdogg

He wasn’t the director of the CIA when he was initially monitored.


39 posted on 11/10/2012 11:46:17 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg
Who Authorized FBI Surveillance of Gen. Petraeus?

Probably some guy in Chicago named Fat Louie.

40 posted on 11/10/2012 11:49:03 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: The Great RJ

“This has the fingerprints of White House operatives all over it.”

This is a matter of falling into some good intel and using it to your advantage.

Petreaus should have known those emails would be discovered. Obama got lucky...or whoever is running the White House. Nice leverage and control of Petreaus.

I am glad the FBI is doing their job. This could have been something a lot worse. Why didn’t the CIA catch this or vet Petreaus before he took the position? Or did they and Obama saw it as a resume enhancer?


41 posted on 11/10/2012 11:49:34 AM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: 9YearLurker
He wasn’t the director of the CIA when he was initially monitored.

And if you think about how gangsters work, he was probably nominated for the CIA position BECAUSE Emanuel had the explosive dossier on him.

42 posted on 11/10/2012 11:51:33 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Just read you post #30. Man, we were thinking along the same line at the same time, wow! WE're just too good, lol.

Is this thread going to ping?

43 posted on 11/10/2012 11:52:28 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Perdogg
The affair was discovered earlier this year soon after the FBI began monitoring his email.

Monitoring someone's email is not the same thing as investigating who is trying to hack into it.

44 posted on 11/10/2012 11:54:01 AM PST by wideminded
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To: old curmudgeon

as she a foreign agent?....

During her career, how close did she get to a Muslim??


45 posted on 11/10/2012 11:54:07 AM PST by B212
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To: old curmudgeon

I am not really trying to be funny, but we have some of the worst foreign agents come and go from this white house. In fact, they are running it. The good guys are the bad guys now in Amerika.


46 posted on 11/10/2012 11:56:54 AM PST by dforest
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I hadn’t ‘connected’ all those pieces yet, either. Lots of things floating around, independently, for me. Thanks for pointing that central connection out. Now it’s starting to tie-together better.


47 posted on 11/10/2012 11:59:57 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: old curmudgeon

“She was trying to hack his email.”

I think he gave her access. She had the same access to him while he was still in the Military. She had security clearances.

“Was she a foreign agent?”

Nothing points to that. Hopefully not. But, it does raise the necessary Red Flags. She could have been.

“Very unlikely that she was working on her own.”

She was just doing what she had been doing for six years, emailing Petreaus and his inner circle.


48 posted on 11/10/2012 12:02:09 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
But I did not consider that ‘Benghazi’ was part of a plan to impune Petraeus."""""......

Maybe so, maybe not, one thing I do believe we will begin to unravel it in time.

The Benghazi "plan", I think will lead back to that stupid "video", it was produced back in June. I think the adminstraion knew this, had it made for just such a purpose as it was used for, when the Benghazi "plan" failed.

I do not think Petraeus was in any manner involved with the "Plan", he was just caught up in the aftermath, and resigned as to say "What the Hell happened to Me, what have I did they do to me?"... They needed an Honorable man in position, to give themselves credibility, FAIL.

Did the adminstration give one hoot or hollar about his reputation, or his marriage? Not in the least, he was useful collateral damage to them.

Benghazi Plan: arms to our enemies.

49 posted on 11/10/2012 12:03:52 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Josephat

There just might be a “Ft Marcy Park”-like incident before that happens. Just saying, considering the treasonous, desperate, subhuman filth in the WH.


50 posted on 11/10/2012 12:06:18 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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